I want to squeeze more power out of my car because I know there is some left on the table. My air fuel is a bit rich for the mods I have. I would love the car to be tuned on a dyno or a lap top while driving. I live near Santa Barbara and wouldn't mind driving 100 miles or so for a good tune.
M

 

put an afc on your car and go to Sp engineering. they will get you sorted. or put an afc on and come out here!

 

From that list of mods you'll need more than an AFC to get the most out of that Mini. The AFC will help with AFRs in open loop and some effect on closed loop fuel trim but that's about it. The real improvements come from recalibrating the factory ecu in the areas of timing, fuel enrichment, and other parameters that will produce gains throughout the entire operating range.
How's the overall driveability of the car now?

 

The car drives very well but to me it seems like the power is a bit low for the money I have spent and compared to others. I have someone to do it but I would have to drive 550 miles each way. The person that tuned the car the first time travels between AZ and LA, but his dyno is in AZ. I just could be used to the power, you know how that goes.
M

 

from what i have been told by ecu tunners of the mini. The MINI pretty much runs its own timining. Tunners don't have very much control over the timing. other than that... you pretty much have the a/f to mess with... and the afc is perfect for that.

 

This statement couldn't be any more wrong. I have watched a tuner in So Cal do it. It held the timing parameters all the way through as we data logged the run on bim com. If you have access to the proper software you can recalibrate the entire ECU.

 

hmm... thats not what i was told by fireball. i was told eventually the ecu will revert back to its factory boring self in regards to timing.

what software were they using?

 

Hey Mario.

I have used Church Automotive Testing in Wilmington, CA. They us Dynapack dynos which attach to the wheel hub. I was pleased with the performance of this type of dyno.
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Dimsport from Italy

 

Mario is asking for person to actually tune his car not dyno it to get a number. Thanks for you help though as you can never have enough good dyno shops to check your car at.

 

hmm... im going to look into that. that would be great if it does hold the timing


also mario... if you are going to street tune you are going to need someone with a wideband

 

This thread has all of the makings of a trainwreck. Mario, I hope you get your car sorted out.
This should be a warning flag for going head first into modding your car without a defined plan.

 

this comment is completely out of place. The issue of tunning the car again has nothing to do for not having a defined plan.

 

I tend to disagree, if you follow his posts from day one you will see that he has had problem after problem since he left the original guys that worked on his car. He was happy after FBT worked on his car. After conferring with different tuners with different ideas than what FBT had recommended he has all of the problems you see here. Yes, it has EVERYTHING to do with having a defined plan.

Bill

 

lets continue this off this thread. as i agree with most of what you are saying. there was a miscommunication. I thought you were talking about tunning the car again afterwerds... not putting a bunch of other products on by other tunning firms etc...

 

I thank you for your help, but this is my fun and a hobby for me. I don't want a plan becaue I have way too many other things in my life right now that require details. If I have a defined plan then it wouldn't be fun and plus it is just a Mini. All I know is that my car is much faster than the day I bought it and I can feel each mod I have done unlike any other car I have ever had. My car is not far off from some of the fastest non turbo non nitrous Mini's, I may only be like 12whp off.

 

My car has only and one problem and that was the pulley. My car is running perfect I just want more power. Please don't make it worse than it is.

 

I admit I can't live throughout the day without my daily dose of MarioKart soap opera. Keep up the good work So when are you going to dyno it again? I am impatiently waiting to see how fast your car is now.

 

This is confusing

 

The subject is not confusing it's all the confused people confusing the subject. I've been using Dimsport software to tune Minis and others for some time and have not had any issues in making changes to the timing maps. This is how I've been able to make my turbo-only Mini run. The way the software works is a bit different than what most people are used to. There is no live tuning. The only way to use the software effectively is by using an emulator. This requires that the ecu be opened up and surgicaly probed so that its' eprom may enjoy an out of body experience. Not for the weak of heart but the only way to make meaningful, performance improving changes.
Actually, there is more to it than this but this is not the correct venue for detailed explanation.

 

LOL! thats true... but you have to run the time... not the dyno! all in good fun!

 

So..................do you think you can take me now?

 

lol!

 

I was at Gintani Mini Works in August and saw them do a dynotune. They tap into the ecu and tune as the car runs. I know they moved from Van Nuys so you may want to talk to Recoop about this since they have done a lot of his work.

 

I talked to them in September and they use the software out of Germany and the tuner has split from Gintani Mini works. I don't know if they hired another tuner?

Bill