Drivetrain LOOK! Black M7 DFIC. Install tomorrow
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
black IS beautiful, BUT
RED IS THE RIGHT COLOR!! https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=75602
GLAD to see you making progress on that thing Mario!
GLAD to see you making progress on that thing Mario!
RED IS THE RIGHT COLOR!! https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=75602
GLAD to see you making progress on that thing Mario!
GLAD to see you making progress on that thing Mario!
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
Thanks again Peter for the great product and keeping things low key with the girl friend.
I love the DFIC and what it has done for the car, it seem like the air is always 10F lower. The Alta did worked well but this is perfect. I just wish I could drive it more but I'm having more issues with my pulley. I think Steve will have it squared away Wednesday or Thrusday.
Mario
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
My little dose of LITHIUM
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Mario: How do you know this? Do you have temperature probes, and if so, where and how are they located? What gauge are you using?
cheers,
cheers,
The coolest thing is after running it hard, driving home, pulling it into the garage, popping the hood and putting both hands on both the Horns, pre and post intercooler... Passenger side is warm, almost hot, and drivers side is cold, not cool, but cold!!! Ya, I'd say it's working!
Now about those intercooler boots... :::calling Peter:::
Oh crap, he's probably still sleeping, lazy West coast peeps, don't you know, you should operate on eastern standard time!
Well I slept in today till 7:45 but its 8:15am and I'm done the install was a snap and the car is warming up to drive. I really want the new blanket and water sprayer, I should be getting them next week. I will let you know the results later, here is a pic of the install.
Mario
Mario
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
My little dose of LITHIUM
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No gauges just by feel, that why I used the workd SEEMS. As you know the Mini loves cold weather and I can tell when the outside air temp drops from 70f to 60f because my car starts pulling harder. This is the same feeling l get with the new DFIC, the air just feels colder. Gauges would be nice but too much trouble. I'm sure someone else will do it or has done it already.
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Don't be so sure that there are measurements out there that support this conclusion.
Mario-
Hooking up a vacuum/boost guage to the DFIC is VERY VERY easy. I did it on my lunch break!
All I did was buy an Autometer vacuum/boost guage from Summit Racing. Bought the extra mounting cup with a hole in the back for the vacuum line, and it's got everything you need!
The guage comes with a 1/8" NPT hose adapter that just happens to fit in one of those back ports on the DFIC!
I used the one on the driver's side, so it would show actual boost going into the engine after the intercooler.
Basically followed: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=boost+guage
Except with the DFIC, you dont have to remove the intercooler to get to a vacuum/boost source.
Hooking up a vacuum/boost guage to the DFIC is VERY VERY easy. I did it on my lunch break!
All I did was buy an Autometer vacuum/boost guage from Summit Racing. Bought the extra mounting cup with a hole in the back for the vacuum line, and it's got everything you need!
The guage comes with a 1/8" NPT hose adapter that just happens to fit in one of those back ports on the DFIC!
I used the one on the driver's side, so it would show actual boost going into the engine after the intercooler.
Basically followed: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=boost+guage
Except with the DFIC, you dont have to remove the intercooler to get to a vacuum/boost source.
Because M7 came out with it first and to me Alta seems like they copied a good idea. Also Peter gave me a good deal for being one of the first few for the new Thermal coated DFIC's. Also I already tried Alta v 1.0, so it was time for a change. The last reason is, like Peter I own a small company and pride my self on customer service. Peter and Randy seem like stand up guys and never act as if I'm bothering them, no matter how many questions I have. Also the products they carry seem to have a lot of R&D done and they back there product. If something goes wrong they will bite the bullet and take care of the customer, even if it means losing some money.
Mario
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
Mario-
Hooking up a vacuum/boost guage to the DFIC is VERY VERY easy. I did it on my lunch break!
All I did was buy an Autometer vacuum/boost guage from Summit Racing. Bought the extra mounting cup with a hole in the back for the vacuum line, and it's got everything you need!
The guage comes with a 1/8" NPT hose adapter that just happens to fit in one of those back ports on the DFIC!
I used the one on the driver's side, so it would show actual boost going into the engine after the intercooler.
Basically followed: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=boost+guage
Except with the DFIC, you dont have to remove the intercooler to get to a vacuum/boost source.
Hooking up a vacuum/boost guage to the DFIC is VERY VERY easy. I did it on my lunch break!
All I did was buy an Autometer vacuum/boost guage from Summit Racing. Bought the extra mounting cup with a hole in the back for the vacuum line, and it's got everything you need!
The guage comes with a 1/8" NPT hose adapter that just happens to fit in one of those back ports on the DFIC!
I used the one on the driver's side, so it would show actual boost going into the engine after the intercooler.
Basically followed: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=boost+guage
Except with the DFIC, you dont have to remove the intercooler to get to a vacuum/boost source.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
It's a silica based material, black in color, and with early testing the prototype yielded amazing results. They placed the blanket on a hot plate and measured the temp of the bottom side at close to 400º and on the top side it was only ~ 180º. I'd say it's a fairly effective thermal barrier
. I watched Randy and Peter install this at last weeks Motor4Toys meet in Agoura Hills. I'd be interested in seeing how effective it was. We spoke in detail about this mod. I ended up buying my DFIC at that show (Actually it was Mario's! We weren't sure if he was showing up so I stole it
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According to a brief phone call to Peter today, All future DFIC units "should" be shipping with at least a water sprayer, which is currently in the prototype stages. This thermal blanket is pretty neat stuff, and I'd recommend it to anyone with or without the ceramic coating on the bottom side of the intercooler
. The one they had installed wasn't pretty, but I'm sure once it goes into production they'll make it look just as nice as the rest of their stuff!
I highly recommend the DFIC to anyone looking for a performance gain, especially if you live in a hot climate. I've noticed a dramatic difference in pickup in higher gears, and it's a consistent feeling, there is no heat soak to speak of.
I took a look at another Cooper S which had a water to air IC installed, and I question it's ability to cool any better than this unit, which is significantly cheaper. I'd be very surprised if the W->A IC had a gallon of water in the entire system. Once the water heats up (Water is great at absorbing heat, but not so great at getting rid of it.) you're pumping 150-160 degree water through your IC, explain to me how that helps cool the intake charge!
My MC40 with the MMS4 kit on it had a water to air IC, after driving the two cars I can tell you that my old car definitely had heat soak issues, especially after being driven hard. It took a LOT longer to restore the performance once it was hot than it does with a simple air to air IC.
I don't even have the new scoop yet, I'm told this makes a big difference as well!
.) According to a brief phone call to Peter today, All future DFIC units "should" be shipping with at least a water sprayer, which is currently in the prototype stages. This thermal blanket is pretty neat stuff, and I'd recommend it to anyone with or without the ceramic coating on the bottom side of the intercooler
I highly recommend the DFIC to anyone looking for a performance gain, especially if you live in a hot climate. I've noticed a dramatic difference in pickup in higher gears, and it's a consistent feeling, there is no heat soak to speak of.
I took a look at another Cooper S which had a water to air IC installed, and I question it's ability to cool any better than this unit, which is significantly cheaper. I'd be very surprised if the W->A IC had a gallon of water in the entire system. Once the water heats up (Water is great at absorbing heat, but not so great at getting rid of it.) you're pumping 150-160 degree water through your IC, explain to me how that helps cool the intake charge!
My MC40 with the MMS4 kit on it had a water to air IC, after driving the two cars I can tell you that my old car definitely had heat soak issues, especially after being driven hard. It took a LOT longer to restore the performance once it was hot than it does with a simple air to air IC.
I don't even have the new scoop yet, I'm told this makes a big difference as well!
You should be able to swap out that gauge pretty easily.
How did your dyno run go? (If you've gone yet)
How did your dyno run go? (If you've gone yet)
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp




