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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Comments from M7 DFIC owners wanted

I'd like to hear comments from M7 DFIC owners that have run them at least a month or two. The good, bad and the ugly....
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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I have had mine since the the 05 Dragon and have no complaints. I was one of the early adopters with Sid, Bob and Don's m7 Car....

It has been absolutely fantastic. The only thing I would say about it is that you need to get new IC boots before you put it on.

Otherwise the increased throttle responce and cooler temps are fantastic!

there are a ton of threads discussing it but trust me that you can't go wrong with it
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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I don't own one nor do I need one but someone from my club does and the 1st day they drove their MCS with it was for a track/lapping day. It popped off once as they were pulling up to the track, and at least 2 times while on the track. Outside of that, the MCS had a different sound from all others and it was pretty cool!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YakiMini
I don't own one nor do I need one but someone from my club does and the 1st day they drove their MCS with it was for a track/lapping day. It popped off once as they were pulling up to the track, and at least 2 times while on the track. Outside of that, the MCS had a different sound from all others and it was pretty cool!
Yup...have heard the same thing about them sliding off....I bought a set of Alta boots when i installed mine and it hasn't budge at all.

FYI people tend to blow things out of proportion on this site...when the first few fellas got them they were like "oh my god it tranforms the car"...so of course I jumped on the waiting list. I wont go as far as to say I am disappointed but definitely not as impressed as i thought especially considering what i paid for it.

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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Having gone from stock to a large aftermarkt horizintal IC and then to the DFIC.

I like the DFIC the most.

I live in Florida so heatsoak is magnified here and the reason I changed my IC. Of the IC units I have owned the DFIC allows my cars performance to be most consistent.

PS _ ICs are an expensive mod and only help recoup existing power. Many threads here on getting the most out of your stock IC - good reading and relatively inexpensive things to do.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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I think it is one of the best mods I have..... the thing just works..... you need new boots, count on it..... DDM fashions a small piece that stabilizes the DFIC.... maybe Dave will post on this as any shop can make it......

I live in GA where heat is an issue
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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The DFIC seems substantially more effective than my previous GRS intercooler.

To be fair, the DFIC scoop may make a significant part of that difference.

The GRS used its own diverter and the OEM scoop.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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I'll second (third? fourth?) props to the DFIC. I don't regret it and would easily do it all over again. For those where $ is an issue there are threads that instruct on how to extract more efficiency from your stock IC. Very interesting but I love my DFIC.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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I have DFIC # 023. It works. I can't tell if it works better than my stock IC with modified Alta diverter (I also have a modified diverter for the DFIC and a new super-scoop being painted this weekend - woohoo!) Anyway, I have never felt the "better throttle response, quicker off the line, more <fill in performance aspect here>". That said, I run Alta boots and have never had problems of movement. I'm trying to keep up with my wife's spending habits, and the DFIC really went a long way helping me catch up.
I think the idea is great, and wish that I had temperature measurements to add to the data already existing showing that it works.
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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That's truly odd you can't tell a difference in the butt-dyno. I can easily tell a difference. I believe the temp differences where reported in the original thread when the DFIC was released. I only wish someone could get a true power delta in a wind tunnel. Anyone got an extra $25k for a day of testing?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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I think hype is what hype is, reality however is quantifiable, and I heard from enough owners and enough tech types to make the plunge.

It was easy to install, and easy to tell a difference in performance.

If JC Whitney was all that was out there we'd all be getting 1000 hp and 1000 miles per gallon, and unfortunately, there are a few JC Whitney type Mini companies out there.

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pberry51mini
I think hype is what hype is, reality however is quantifiable, and I heard from enough owners and enough tech types to make the plunge.

It was easy to install, and easy to tell a difference in performance.

If JC Whitney was all that was out there we'd all be getting 1000 hp and 1000 miles per gallon, and unfortunately, there are a few JC Whitney type Mini companies out there.

Paul

I love your enthusiasm! Like you said, hype is hype and this is quantifiable. So can you please post your quantifiable evidence before I plunk down $800 of my hard earned money!
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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I love your enthusiasm! Like you said, hype is hype and this is quantifiable. So can you please post your quantifiable evidence before I plunk down $800 of my hard earned money!
Are you on a fishing trip here or are you really interested in the DFIC? You can do a search and find all kinds of feedback on the DFIC. If you look hard enough in the vendors sites you might even find a cheaper (cost) version of the DFIC.

I love mine.

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Let me edit my post above so as not to sound like I am bashing it. I do like my DFIC...but as a previous posted said, I feel the difference off the line and the car is definitely a lot more crisp and very fresh so to speak. I just dont agree with the original DFIC threads where people were saying it adds all this power "comparible to a pulley upgrade".

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by saifa
Let me edit my post above so as not to sound like I am bashing it. I do like my DFIC...but as a previous posted said, I feel the difference off the line and the car is definitely a lot more crisp and very fresh so to speak. I just dont agree with the original DFIC threads where people were saying it adds all this power "comparible to a pulley upgrade".

Seann Pegg
You are right. No way can any, top mount, air to air, IC, made for the present configuration of the OE Mini IC, will compair to a pulley upgrade.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
Are you on a fishing trip here or are you really interested in the DFIC? You can do a search and find all kinds of feedback on the DFIC. If you look hard enough in the vendors sites you might even find a cheaper (cost) version of the DFIC.

I love mine.

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I am interested but subjective claims by people with no real proof except their opinions is not going to get me to put up the money for one. I am glad you like yours but you making comments about fishing when I was asking a real question is just plain rude.

Bill
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by miniflop
I love your enthusiasm! Like you said, hype is hype and this is quantifiable. So can you please post your quantifiable evidence before I plunk down $800 of my hard earned money!
I see that you are new to this whole NAM thing so I would suggest putting away the attitude and try doing a basic search using the acronymn DFIC. You will find a wealth of info and techno stuff.

BTW - if you say you are interested in purchasing then try calling the fellows that came up with this product - M7.

Peter will be glad to talk at length with you, he's that kind of guy.

I think you'll find a lot of good people on these threads that are, for the most part, really trying to get the most out of their Minis. When the few attempt to get somewhere with a crass or accusatory attitude they quickly find out they had best try a different tack.

Keep trying, you'll get it right eventually.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Look...it's a permant fixture under my bonnet...
Need I say more? As far as I'm concerned...I don't...it works for me as advertised
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by miniflop
I am interested but subjective claims by people with no real proof except their opinions is not going to get me to put up the money for one. I am glad you like yours but you making comments about fishing when I was asking a real question is just plain rude.

Bill
Having a bad day? Who do you want to hear from other than people who have already spent their money on the product?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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MiniFlop,
People don't mention Mini-Madness very often but I've gotten to know George fairly well over the last few months and he can answer any question that you might have.
Good Luck researching!
Motor On!
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by miniflop
I love your enthusiasm! Like you said, hype is hype and this is quantifiable. So can you please post your quantifiable evidence before I plunk down $800 of my hard earned money!
you have not looked hard enough.... there are numbers.... do the search

also, I am one of the unabashed supportes of this product.... when your chasing power and performance in this engine after the pulley real meaningful improvements are hard to come by....... while the DFIC does not give you the incremental change of a pulley..... the improvement was so noticeable in its category that I felt it merits that kind of praise....... the thing works and the guys that have it are not lemmings.....

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by miniflop
I love your enthusiasm! Like you said, hype is hype and this is quantifiable. So can you please post your quantifiable evidence before I plunk down $800 of my hard earned money!
Actually if you want to be like Mike it was in the neighborhood of $1100.

Dude try the search function I know it's hard to move your mouse to the top section of your screen but stick with it here, you can do it.

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Actually if you want to be like Mike it was in the neighborhood of $1100.

Dude try the search function I know it's hard to move your mouse to the top section of your screen but stick with it here, you can do it.

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Took your advice & http://www.minispeed.co.uk/new_mini/...t&id=nm-charge ... Check this bad boy out....
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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I've had mine installed for two weeks. See my sig for other mods (19%, etc). I am very happy with this product, as I have been with my other M7 products. I am running the stock boots for now and no movement issues. Running around town, heatsoak was a pain, but no more. The car is as spritely all the time as when I just started up. Before, after about 20-30 min, the heatsoak was very noticable. Now, gone. While not as dramatic as the pulley was, this product is still noticable. I'd do it again. And the folks of M7 will sit on the phone or email with you all you want.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
Took your advice & http://www.minispeed.co.uk/new_mini/...t&id=nm-charge ... Check this bad boy out....
Actually it's because I went all out and got both the "Super Ceramic" (ceramic coating on the bottom of the DFIC) and the "Heat Dispersant" Ceramic coating which is what makes it black.




Just my observations... It's cold here right now. I got off the toll road here yesterday which I generally cruise at about 85-90mph without any law enforcement issues. Just for the hell of it I got out of my car and popped the hood after a 15 minute jaunt on it, and found my pre-dfic temps (left horn) to be extremely hot (I'm running a 16% with a 2% crank) and after dfic temps (right horn) to be COOLER than the air outside of the car. Yes no joke I felt like i was touching an ice cube. The DFIC seemed to be at an ambient temp... not cold but definitely not warm.

Mikey
 
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