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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Eric quoted me something like $850 to install the Quaife...but that was two years ago...
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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If you have the money for it and plan to do the clutch and flywheel anyways, by all means do it. The Quaife will be much more effective than the factory LSD as well FWIW.

I had a highly modified Neon that was putting out around 170 whp and saw some track duty, a moderate amount of drag strip action, and a lot of autocrosses. Next to Konis and race tires, the Quaife LSD I installed was one of the best mods I did. It did change how the car drove and took a bit of adjustment in my driving style, but it was definitely worth it. For the Neon the Quaife LSD's are normally around $1300, but I was lucky to find a new one on sale for $800. I removed the tranny myself, took it to a guy two hours away, dropped it off for a week, and about $150 later I had the LSD installed in my tranny, and reinstalled it in my car with a new clutch.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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In my case, I needed a stronger clutch and was "forced" into adding the flywheel and LSD as it didn't make sense to pay the labor again to install them at a later date...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I've heard some rumors (and i assume that's all they are) about some of the lightened flywheel's for the mini not being all they are cracked (horrible pun) up to be.

I assume you used the clutch and flywheel that you linked sid? And did it make a real noticible difference to the engine spool up?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Would it be worth it for a NA Cooper? I have almost every engine mod done to it except for the head and cam. My clutch and flywheel is out and I'm replacing it with a Spec 2 clutch and Flywheel. Helix has one and they said this is the best time to do it if I want one.

For suspension I got the 17x7 G-force Sport, H-Sport comp rear sway bar, M7 USS and Koni FSD.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by prime-drk-
I've heard some rumors (and i assume that's all they are) about some of the lightened flywheel's for the mini not being all they are cracked (horrible pun) up to be.

I assume you used the clutch and flywheel that you linked sid? And did it make a real noticible difference to the engine spool up?
Rumours?

Yes, I use 10lb Fidanza/Spec 2/Quaife combo and have been very happy with them...they spool up very quickly...

The Quaife does not drag as do clutch type LSDs...they're mechanical torque sensing biased...automatically biases torque to wheel with less traction...if both wheels have equal traction, each would theoretically receive equal power...I assume this works the same way when coasting around a turn...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Oh and I would like to say: MSFITOY your car is freakin' awesome by the way. And I love your REX!!! Any specs on that car?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Oh and I would like to say: MSFITOY your car is freakin' awesome by the way. And I love your REX!!! Any specs on that car?
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The REX? 1986 CRX Si, intercooled/turbo 225hp, blue printed motor by CarTech (that's right, Corky Bell), 1850lbs, rollcage, Mugan body...the usual tricks but this was one of the earliest of the "Tuner" Hondas and the parts were harder to find than hens teeth:impatient ...

It had no traction in 1st/2nd...but on average, it could still make up time by hitting 100mph in less than 11 seconds Wish'd I had kepted it...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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My MCS replaced my '91 CRX Si with a ton of mods. Sometimes, I too wish I'd kept it, but the wife wanted me in something safer.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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So what do you think? NA Cooper with LSD? Or not enough power to make it worth it? I think Spidey should do it because his car is pretty intense for power but for me??? Maybe just making 150hp...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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86 that's old school! Wicked man props! That's like this car!



I meant to give you props for your Mini first!

Originally Posted by MSFITOY
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The REX? 1986 CRX Si, intercooled/turbo 225hp, blue printed motor by CarTech (that's right, Corky Bell), 1850lbs, rollcage, Mugan body...the usual tricks but this was one of the earliest of the "Tuner" Hondas and the parts were harder to find than hens teeth:impatient ...

It had no traction in 1st/2nd...but on average, it could still make up time by hitting 100mph in less than 11 seconds Wish'd I had kepted it...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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ooooh! an AE86... "hatchiruko"

*drools* sweet car!
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Let's take this waaaaay OT again...

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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got to love the 1st gen CRX's *Drools more*

 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Gotta be the meanest looking CRX I've seen. I usually don't like brown on cars but it really works here! The Wheels/Tires look awesome! Too bad you don't have it anymore But you have a hell of a Mini!
 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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absolutely pimp man!! since we are sharing....here's mine. Car was intended as a sleepr and fully 'done' (for a daily driven street car that is), save for the hybrid B18 swap I'd been planning.





 
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranzo
Gotta be the meanest looking CRX I've seen. I usually don't like brown on cars but it really works here! The Wheels/Tires look awesome! Too bad you don't have it anymore But you have a hell of a Mini!
It's not brown....yuck It's the first experimental BASF stealth gray paint that flops from gray green to gray purple...impossible to take a picture of...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:35 AM
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I do love to start threads and see how they "morph"

Sid... I wish I had that CRX..... very.....Sid like

as far as the LSD I will stick to my plan of putting it in when I need a clutch....... hopefully I still have a few miles..... I don't do launches so we'll see.....
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
I do love to start threads and see how they "morph"

Sid... I wish I had that CRX..... very.....Sid like

as far as the LSD I will sick to my plan of putting it in when I need a clutch....... horpefully I still have a few miles..... I don't do launches so we'll see.....
In that case, you should be needing a new clutch once the 62 is tuned...my experience was that my stock clutch did not have the clamping force to hold on to the Venom's extreme torque. When it was taken out, it wasn't worn at all...just couldn't cope with the torque...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
In that case, you should be needing a new clutch once the 62 is tuned...my experience was that my stock clutch did not have the clamping force to hold on to the Venom's extreme torque. When it was taken out, it wasn't worn at all...just couldn't cope with the torque...
It's OK,..... Bahamabart said he was going to pay for it.....
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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SpiderX:

Sorry it of got off topic... Yeah go for the LSD if you got the money! I'm on the fence... my clutch is toasted right now, but for 1200 bucks for the part and it might give me a 10th of a second faster at the track/autoX (Webb claims) kind of makes me feel iffy... maybe I should just invest in being a better driver?!?!?!

MSFITOY:

Yeah it was kind of hard to tell what color it is... just looks like a mean army color... just a dope ride... just don't get rid of your Mini!

Mini Mizer/All:

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Some crazy *** driving!

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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My 03 MCS didn't have LSD as a factory option... I always thought a LSD was only for racetracks...

2 months ago, I needed a new transmission and decided to get a 2005 tranny because of the closer gearing. It also got the LSD at the same time.

The first week I drove my car with the new transmission, I was focusing on the new gearing and was having fun with it. But after that, I began focusing on how the LSD was acting in different situations. It really does make a huge difference!

On the street, it helps both on corners and straight lines. It makes a huge difference when it comes to putting power to the ground. (2 wheels are better than 1 lol) I am now sold to LSD.

Get a LSD and you'll love it!!!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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The quaife is the bomb....it totally transformed the car. Just becareful with what lightweight flywheel and clutch combo you go with. I wouldnt go over a stage2 clutch.

The combo I have just plain sux for daily stop and go driving. It like a lite switch. Either on or off. It makes you feel like you dont know how to drive stick not to mention you look like it to everyone else on the road from a stop. Now while on the gas its amazing.

If I had to do it again, I would def try a different clutch than a stage 3. FWIW the cars handles a lot better with the setup overall, just a PIA in stop n' go.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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How about an 05 used 6speed with LSD. 5400 miles on trans. I know where one is.
Plus you get better gearing.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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How about an 05 used 6speed with LSD. 5400 miles on trans. I know where one is.
Plus you get better gearing.
He was looking for one...how much?
 
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