Drivetrain MINI-madness suspension upgrades
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Has anyone experimented with the new clutch and flywheel available from MINI-madness? I know they're an installation nightmare, but I'm interested. What can I expect from them?
And I meant drivetrain, not suspension! Oops
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Yea, thanks for the clarification!
Do you drive your MINI hard, or autocross/race? If not, then the upgrades may be a moot-point. I'm always for a better feeling (more direct) clutch, I wonder what the difference is in feel, plus the upgraded clutches holding power versus stock?
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Yea, thanks for the clarification!
Do you drive your MINI hard, or autocross/race? If not, then the upgrades may be a moot-point. I'm always for a better feeling (more direct) clutch, I wonder what the difference is in feel, plus the upgraded clutches holding power versus stock?
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Nobody has yet - they go on George's car this week! They are beautiful parts, and when I get to that, I'll let you know how it all works out.
You are absolutely correct on the labor side - it is a bear! The front suspension comes out on the driver side, the motor is separated from the tranny and the gearbox has to be removed form the car - a lot of labor!
As far as what to expect, the lighter flywheel means that the car can spin the RPMs up faster. You also waste fewer horsepower actually spinning the flywheel. The clutch needs to be replaced with a spring centered clutch because you are removing the dual mass flywheel that acts as a shock absorber to the driveline.
Hope that helps!
Randy
You are absolutely correct on the labor side - it is a bear! The front suspension comes out on the driver side, the motor is separated from the tranny and the gearbox has to be removed form the car - a lot of labor!
As far as what to expect, the lighter flywheel means that the car can spin the RPMs up faster. You also waste fewer horsepower actually spinning the flywheel. The clutch needs to be replaced with a spring centered clutch because you are removing the dual mass flywheel that acts as a shock absorber to the driveline.
Hope that helps!
Randy
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We put a lightweight flywheel (BMP's) on jlm's car a few months ago and we were able to keep the stock clutch. We also did a quafie @ the same time so you know that he is working clutch HARD, so far so good.
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Yeah, jlm and I spoke on this, and he is ginger on the clutch for that reason. It really wouldn't be a big deal once the gear is engaged anyway - it's just the whole shifting part. On a race motor we had solid center clutches with the lightweight flywheels, but we rebuilt them much more often (40 hours on the high strung 240 hp 2.0 GT-3 motors) so it wouldn't have shown up like it would on a street car after some extended driving.
It'll be good to have John's car as an example after a few thousand miles or so.
It'll be good to have John's car as an example after a few thousand miles or so.
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