Drivetrain JCW upgrade kit DIY
Originally Posted by forevercornered
I have been searching this site and MINI2 for about 2 hours, and I cant find how big the JCW injectors are. Does anyone know the CCs of the JCW injectors?
The ECU flash will simply allow the fuel curve to be more responsive at higher RPM with the added fuel and air the air intake flap offers when open. Dont expect any huge gains but more so a smoother top end.
Originally Posted by dgszweda1
minicoopermike,
The reflash is not needed in order to operate the upgrade kit. It is needed to optimize your new settings. One thing that I am curious about is whether the reflash also updates the mpg calculation in the car's computer. This was always a drawback going with aftermarket injectors since the mpg would skyrocket on the MCS's computer. I know the injectors aren't a lot larger, so the impact would be small regardless.
I do have the '05 JCW on my car, and the complaint in the past was that the JCW ran pig rich. At this point, after 1,000 miles my tips are clean as can be. On my stock '03 MCS the tips were always black within a few hundred miles. Does the fact the JCW tips are cleaner have any indication of the a/f ratio?
The reflash is not needed in order to operate the upgrade kit. It is needed to optimize your new settings. One thing that I am curious about is whether the reflash also updates the mpg calculation in the car's computer. This was always a drawback going with aftermarket injectors since the mpg would skyrocket on the MCS's computer. I know the injectors aren't a lot larger, so the impact would be small regardless.
I do have the '05 JCW on my car, and the complaint in the past was that the JCW ran pig rich. At this point, after 1,000 miles my tips are clean as can be. On my stock '03 MCS the tips were always black within a few hundred miles. Does the fact the JCW tips are cleaner have any indication of the a/f ratio?
Originally Posted by meb
When my kit was installed, the mpg in the computer read 21.7 the minute I turned on the car...The mileage is improving every day. I'm just over 25mpg now - 50/50 highway/city.
I do not know for sure. My intellect tells me that BMW/Mini would have had to account for the different pulse rates and well as psi to enable the computer to show accurate mpg. They have a higher orders to answer to - EPA. But, I will cross check the computer reading with my next tank full. The only problem with this is the computer reads mpg history from the get-go. So, although I may get a great next mpg reading, it will be tempered or averged into my historical mileage...which was also, as stated above, reset to 21.7 mpg(???) after the upgrade. Interestingly, this default, if it can be called that, was also the same after the first portion of the JCW install - no computer re-flash. So I don't know why the history was destroyed in the process. And, the fuel injectors are part of the pre 05 kits.
Very interesting subject...how exactly do the 380cc JCW injectors work? In other words, how do they differ in operation to other aftermarket 380cc injectors? I throw this out to all because BMW/Mini should have accounted for any differences in injector operation if they hoped to retain accurate computer mpg readings. Dunno. I'm over my head here greatgro. Anyone???
Very interesting subject...how exactly do the 380cc JCW injectors work? In other words, how do they differ in operation to other aftermarket 380cc injectors? I throw this out to all because BMW/Mini should have accounted for any differences in injector operation if they hoped to retain accurate computer mpg readings. Dunno. I'm over my head here greatgro. Anyone???
Originally Posted by meb
The only problem with this is the computer reads mpg history from the get-go. So, although I may get a great next mpg reading, it will be tempered or averged into my historical mileage...
...how exactly do the 380cc JCW injectors work? In other words, how do they differ in operation to other aftermarket 380cc injectors?
I do. But your question was with regard to the computer. The only way I can verify the accuaracy of the computer is by comparing my actuals with historical mpg in the computer. If I were getting 25 mpg for example, and the improvment in the computer's history were much better, then I would say I have a problem similar to yours. I have not bothered at this point to follow my mpg closely. I still fill up with more or less the same frequency. If I understand your question greatgro, and I may not...
Originally Posted by meb
I do. But your question was with regard to the computer. The only way I can verify the accuaracy of the computer is by comparing my actuals with historical mpg in the computer. If I were getting 25 mpg for example, and the improvment in the computer's history were much better, then I would say I have a problem similar to yours. I have not bothered at this point to follow my mpg closely. I still fill up with more or less the same frequency. If I understand your question greatgro, and I may not...
That's what I thought until I got out the owners manual and found out that the OBC's average MPG can be reset at any time. As a matter of fact, on vehicles with an OBC, there are three things that can be reset independently -- 1) trip odometer 2) average speed 3) average fuel consumption.
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Originally Posted by meb
...The only problem with this is the computer reads mpg history from the get-go. ...
Originally Posted by muy_mini
That's what I thought until I got out the owners manual and found out that the OBC's average MPG can be reset at any time. As a matter of fact, on vehicles with an OBC, there are three things that can be reset independently -- 1) trip odometer 2) average speed 3) average fuel consumption.
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Well don't I feel sheepish. I had better read up on that computer thing soon!
Thanks for the heads up muy mini. The trip odometer is a no brainer...I wonder if when reseting the trip, all else is re-set???
Originally Posted by meb
Well don't I feel sheepish. I had better read up on that computer thing soon!
Thanks for the heads up muy mini. The trip odometer is a no brainer...I wonder if when reseting the trip, all else is re-set???
Thanks for the heads up muy mini. The trip odometer is a no brainer...I wonder if when reseting the trip, all else is re-set???
Muy Mini, you are indeed correct and thank you. Now I can verify the accuracy of the on-board against the trip quite easily. Simple, just hold the mode button down for a longer period of time and the selected display is re-set...for anyone else with their head in a dark place. I've been called the absent minded professor by wife family and friends. No, really!
Originally Posted by muy_mini
That's what I thought until I got out the owners manual and found out that the OBC's average MPG can be reset at any time. As a matter of fact, on vehicles with an OBC, there are three things that can be reset independently -- 1) trip odometer 2) average speed 3) average fuel consumption.
I'm getting all ready for my upcoming trip to helix. Today was christmas again and UPS dropped off my jcw injectors and airbox. I've decided to go with the 19% pulley and GIAC. Looking forward to fat torque & smooth running. Thanx for the info and help here.
Originally Posted by minibrute
I'm getting all ready for my upcoming trip to helix. Today was christmas again and UPS dropped off my jcw injectors and airbox. I've decided to go with the 19% pulley and GIAC. Looking forward to fat torque & smooth running. Thanx for the info and help here.

Meb, no I won't have a complete jcw engine kit. I've been running a 15% pulley, alta intake, milltek catback and mth software for fun. I also have a wheel & tire combo that weights in at 36 pounds, for a 19 pound per corner weight reduccion. It all adds up, I like my car. I'm upgrading the mth software and I'm hoping it'll be better than mth's. I'm not satisfied with the mth sofware, it's a bit edgie. I had been a giac holdout but mth came along at the right price, thanx DKSTONE for all the help you provided me with on that project. Now giac has arrived with a solid product, the tunners have their bigger injectors to go nicely with the 19% pulley. The planets all line up
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My 15% pulley has served well for 32,000 miles, its time to go stage two.
Thanx BMW for making those injectors and that jcw airbox a good deal.
Yeeeha.
.My 15% pulley has served well for 32,000 miles, its time to go stage two.
Thanx BMW for making those injectors and that jcw airbox a good deal.
Yeeeha.
Originally Posted by minibrute
I'm getting all ready for my upcoming trip to helix. Today was christmas again and UPS dropped off my jcw injectors and airbox. I've decided to go with the 19% pulley and GIAC. Looking forward to fat torque & smooth running. Thanx for the info and help here.

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