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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Biggest Bang for your $$

Ok I know this has been beat more than a dead horse but I have read alot on here but I am still confused as to my first upgrade, I want the biggest upgrade that is reasonable such as CAI, ECU upgrade. On the ECU upgrade is their a particular upgrade that is the best and is a do it yourself plug in
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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MTH CarTune is by far the biggest bang for the buck, IMO, next to a Pulley, from what I'm told (I got an MC, so no pulley for me)

CAI makes a nice sound, but doesn't offer anywhere near the performance boost from the MTH which costs less than $200 or less than $100 if you can find someone with an OBDII cable.

15hp for $75.

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Originally Posted by Kendel72
Ok I know this has been beat more than a dead horse but I have read alot on here but I am still confused as to my first upgrade, I want the biggest upgrade that is reasonable such as CAI, ECU upgrade. On the ECU upgrade is their a particular upgrade that is the best and is a do it yourself plug in
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Supercharger Pulley
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~20HP @ 5500RPM for <$150 + install (or tools for DIY)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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First, you should decide what sort of performance you're after.


In my opinion, for power, hands down get a 19% (or 15%) supercharger reduction pulley. JSCSpeed currently sells the ALTA pulleys for $105. If you're a shade-tree mechanic this is a half-day-or-less install and the 19% yields GOBS of torque down low. The 15% is almost as good, more conservative, but is plenty. You'll notice the "bang" that the pulley gives, without a doubt.

For handling, a larger and adjustable rear sway bar is the way to go. The ALTA 22mm 2-position adjustable rear bar is also available from JSCSpeed for $155. Takes about 1-2 hours to install.

If you're not into either (and I doubt this is the case), and just want a nice everyday use sort of mod, the Helix short shifter (shifter extension) is just what the doctor ordered. It's about $45 and takes less than an hour to install.

To make better use of the interior space, the Euro parcel shelf ($78 from Classic MINI in Mentor, Ohio) is a great addition. It replaces the rather useless knee bolster under the steering wheel with a padded shelf for storage of cell phones, CDs, sunglasses, whatever you can fit there.

Of course, better tires are in order, especially if you have the run-flats. But these tend to be more expensive than the mods listed above.

Wow do I feel like minihune.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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The MTH sounds killer but kinda complicated, The pulley is a must but will have to wait for a party. Anybody got a MTH interface near charlotte
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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as alot of people has already said... notice what you need and mod

pulley gets u power like u wont believe.. pair it with a ecu and some new colder range plugs and you are good to go

a large rear sway bar helps as well.. h-sport makes a very good one, but quite pricey compared to the alta one

stay away from exhaust, they yield too little and overall just adds to the experience.. intake is almost the same thing

i love my center console storeage unit.. the mini one is even better i think, but the hard plastic tray moss sells is just as good

tires are one thing i would do no matter what to ditch the runflats...

that's just me...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Well like I said the pulley is a must but I am waiting on a Puley Party close by and the MTH I would like to check into more
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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M7s Venom Nitrous kit w/o a doubt.... biggest bang for buck
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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19% pulley. Worth every scrape and bruise my hands got during the install. Take your time if you DIY- MINIs can be very nippy with the unwary!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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my BBK with race pads

what I look like when I push the brake pedal all the way ----> with a heaving grunt from my Schroth knocking the wind out of me.

 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MartyR

Wow do I feel like minihune.

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Marty, that is the funniest comment I've seen on NAM in a very long time! And, I think your suggestions are awesome.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kendel72
The MTH sounds killer but kinda complicated, The pulley is a must but will have to wait for a party. Anybody got a MTH interface near charlotte
MTH is much easier then a pulley install. It won't get you the same hp but then again the price is $170 including the cable and is 100% reversible.

I am still on the fence concerning the 15% pulley. I have been researching the EVO 8 and would like to be able to sell the MCS on a moment's notice if a great deal came about on one (Sorry! all that hp and go kart handling, how can I resist) and present the MCS as being stock to any potential buyer.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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I am still on the fence concerning the 15% pulley. I have been researching the EVO 8 and would like to be able to sell the MCS on a moment's notice if a great deal came about on one (Sorry! all that hp and go kart handling, how can I resist) and present the MCS as being stock to any potential buyer.
Here's how to resist:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=33117

The cute body and the go-kart handling your MINI's already got!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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$ figure too low

Ah, but it's got to be street legal too!:smile:

3.5k in mods to get to over 350hp at the wheels in the EVO 8 is just so tempting!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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2k in mods to get to over 350hp at the wheels in the EVO 8 is just so tempting!
But, sweetie! The MINI is so much more attractive in every way! Isn't it? :smile:

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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But, sweetie! The MINI is so much more attractive in every way! Isn't it? :smile:

Clover
It's very attractive indeed...

However, the EVO looks, well, EVIL!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Let me preface this by saying I don't even have my MINI yet. (But she's "Discharged"!) But from the reading I've done to kill time while I'm waiting for my car to arrive, it sounds to me like the following has to rate high on the "bang" vs. "buck" scale:

zip tie



Costs - what? - two or three cents? Maybe doesn't do anything to your total horsepower, but reducing a .25 second lag to practically nothing sounds to me like something that feels like you just got a whole new car!

(Check the early pages of the Ryephix thread if you don't know what I'm talking about.)

Can't wait to try this mod on my MINI. The price sure can't be beat!

 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Zip ties cost that much?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Zip ties cost that much?
Yeah... well... if you buy 'em at Radio Shack.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Yeah... well... if you buy 'em at Radio Shack.
oh, cause I get mine for free!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIclo
Marty, that is the funniest comment I've seen on NAM in a very long time! And, I think your suggestions are awesome.

Clover
Clo-

I think the guy is an icon. I meant is as a compliment (albeit a rather tongue-in-cheek one!!!) .

Thanks for the kind words. I am merely a 'hune protege.

Plus I am too dang poor to to the "crazy" stuff!

Marty
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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How about NO2? Venom's $700/60hp=$11.7 per horse. The question was "what's the biggest BANG for the buck" ...not for how long.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Kendel72-


There's going to be a pulley party in Richmond, VA this coming weekend (you're near Charlotte, NC, no?). Though the bang-for-the-buck drops when you have someone else install it (still more than worth it, IMHO). I'd help you install one if you want to drive to Baltimore some weekend if you buy the pizza and beer...

Check out the pulley party thread in the DC Metro MINIs section here or in the pulley party forum on webbmotorsports.com

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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the biggest bang is about 100hp

the biggest buck for that is around 6-7k, installed
 
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