Drivetrain Liqui Moly vs AMSOIL
#3
No real reason for me to change I had just recently heard a lot of praise over amsoil on another forum but none of those people where using liqui moly. And if for whatever reason I found out that amsoil was better id give it a shot but as of right now I haven't been able to find any direct comparisons so as of right now I'll stay with liqui moly unless I'm given a reason otherwise.
#4
Lubro or Liqui Moly is a great oil, but just as a "heads-up", the 5w-30 flavor is not an actual full synthetic. It is however "synthetic technology", being a rebuilt hydrocrack mineral oil.
I'm not sure about the 5w-40 though.
http://blog.bavauto.com/12165/bmw-an...-30-synthetic/
I'm not sure about the 5w-40 though.
http://blog.bavauto.com/12165/bmw-an...-30-synthetic/
#5
Lubro or Liqui Moly is a great oil, but just as a "heads-up", the 5w-30 flavor is not an actual full synthetic. It is however "synthetic technology", being a rebuilt hydrocrack mineral oil.
I'm not sure about the 5w-40 though.
http://blog.bavauto.com/12165/bmw-an...-30-synthetic/
I'm not sure about the 5w-40 though.
http://blog.bavauto.com/12165/bmw-an...-30-synthetic/
#6
Well I tried amsoil and consuption is slightly lower but it is staying golden longer then the liquimoly so I'm suspecting possibly a lower detergent? Haven't had as many short trips tho
#7
Amsoil is well know in these parts and after seeing what it can do first hand.. Im a firm believer in it.. Not only is there engine oils good but a lot of there trans and gear oils are awesome.. While I cant speak for Liqui Moly Amsoil is second to none in my book...Of course everyone has there preferences..lol.. All I can say is give it a try!!
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#8
Amsoil is well know in these parts and after seeing what it can do first hand.. Im a firm believer in it.. Not only is there engine oils good but a lot of there trans and gear oils are awesome.. While I cant speak for Liqui Moly Amsoil is second to none in my book...Of course everyone has there preferences..lol.. All I can say is give it a try!!
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I'm using Liqui-Molly 10w60 race tech in my Mini...it's been great and hasn't consumed as much as the Castrol from the dealer I was using before. Not sure if i'll stick to the 10w60 next time or go back to 5w40...but my tech suggested using the 10w60 if I beat the crap out of it...which I do lol
#12
Sorry to bring back a older thread but i recetly had Liqui-molly brought to my attention by the local Mini shop i take my Mini to for maitance. They told me it was a great oil to use and recommend i switch to it. i'm wondering what version of liqui-molly should i use? the 5w30 or the 5w40?
#14
i truly believe amsoil zrod 10w30 is the best option for the S - especially for the guys running 40wt for the extra "protection" - I wouldn't put additional strain on the motor like that unless you were tracking the car heavily - and even then I'd still run the ZROD - it's a little thicker than regular 30wt, but still not as thick as any 40wt, and the film strength and additives are MUCH better - especially for cars with forced induction. You can check the viscosity specs for yourself.
Amsoil's also one of the only 100% synthetic oils on the market ("fully" synthetic doesnt = 100% synthetic), very good oil in general. I run the ZROD in my evo, and run 0w30 in the base Cooper. If you're deciding between a 0, 5, 10 winter oil, always go with the lowest - ie 0. Ceteris paribus, it will always have better (lower) viscosity - that doesn't matter if you live in 0 degree temps, 40 degree temps, or 70 degree temps. At any temp under operating temp, oil doesn't flow enough to fully protect the engine - which is why 80-90% of engine wear is on cold start up. There are definitely a good number of top oils that will do the job.
I've got invoice pricing for anyone interested in Amsoil, I don't "charge" squat, just trying to provide a service for anyone interested.
Amsoil's also one of the only 100% synthetic oils on the market ("fully" synthetic doesnt = 100% synthetic), very good oil in general. I run the ZROD in my evo, and run 0w30 in the base Cooper. If you're deciding between a 0, 5, 10 winter oil, always go with the lowest - ie 0. Ceteris paribus, it will always have better (lower) viscosity - that doesn't matter if you live in 0 degree temps, 40 degree temps, or 70 degree temps. At any temp under operating temp, oil doesn't flow enough to fully protect the engine - which is why 80-90% of engine wear is on cold start up. There are definitely a good number of top oils that will do the job.
I've got invoice pricing for anyone interested in Amsoil, I don't "charge" squat, just trying to provide a service for anyone interested.
#15
i truly believe amsoil zrod 10w30 is the best option for the S - especially for the guys running 40wt for the extra "protection" - I wouldn't put additional strain on the motor like that unless you were tracking the car heavily - and even then I'd still run the ZROD - it's a little thicker than regular 30wt, but still not as thick as any 40wt, and the film strength and additives are MUCH better - especially for cars with forced induction. You can check the viscosity specs for yourself.
Amsoil's also one of the only 100% synthetic oils on the market ("fully" synthetic doesnt = 100% synthetic), very good oil in general. I run the ZROD in my evo, and run 0w30 in the base Cooper. If you're deciding between a 0, 5, 10 winter oil, always go with the lowest - ie 0. Ceteris paribus, it will always have better (lower) viscosity - that doesn't matter if you live in 0 degree temps, 40 degree temps, or 70 degree temps. At any temp under operating temp, oil doesn't flow enough to fully protect the engine - which is why 80-90% of engine wear is on cold start up. There are definitely a good number of top oils that will do the job.
I've got invoice pricing for anyone interested in Amsoil, I don't "charge" squat, just trying to provide a service for anyone interested.
Amsoil's also one of the only 100% synthetic oils on the market ("fully" synthetic doesnt = 100% synthetic), very good oil in general. I run the ZROD in my evo, and run 0w30 in the base Cooper. If you're deciding between a 0, 5, 10 winter oil, always go with the lowest - ie 0. Ceteris paribus, it will always have better (lower) viscosity - that doesn't matter if you live in 0 degree temps, 40 degree temps, or 70 degree temps. At any temp under operating temp, oil doesn't flow enough to fully protect the engine - which is why 80-90% of engine wear is on cold start up. There are definitely a good number of top oils that will do the job.
I've got invoice pricing for anyone interested in Amsoil, I don't "charge" squat, just trying to provide a service for anyone interested.
People are stuffing 20psi and ____ CFM into this tiny motor, and you're worried about 40 weight oil stressing the motor...? Stop it MINI actually recommends several 40 weight oils for their cars, out of the five or so officially recommended oils.
Regarding some "fully" synthetic oils not actually being full synthetic, we covered that about LubroMoly earlier in the thread, and you're right as rain. "German Castrol" is full synthetic, as oil manufactured in the EU can only be deemed "Full Synthetic" and use that nomenclature when the oil is in fact full synthetic. Anything made in the US (sans Amsoil and a few other botique oils) are restructured hydrocrack oils, with additives.
Last edited by TheBigChill; 10-25-2013 at 09:09 AM.
#16
Straining is a poor word choice. It'll produce more heat, less power, and won't necessarily do anything in terms of protecting the motor. I'd much rather go with a "slightly thicker" 30wt oil with proper additives. I run about 24-25psi in the Evo, revving to around 7.5k rpms - nothing extreme, but I only run amsoil zrod 10w30 in that car
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Link by any chance? I'd love to read that. I have been using Redline 5W-30 or 40 depending on time of year for a car that mainly is on the track, if there's something better, may be time to switch.
#20
Poster was from PA.....pen-oil....I might be onto something!!
Bet the test was in....pa?!
Lol...please post the link....
Funny....most test usually show pretty minor differences... Kinda like Coke vs Pepsi vs store brand "a"....
Some are more satisfying.... But how many folks have had a motor failure due to lube...other than lack of....
#21
I just did some reading, the Ultra finished lower than both Amsoil and Redline, but I'm not sure how objective those tests were as it was Amsoil sponsored. Throwing out the Amsoil though, the Redline looked better than the Ultra. Maybe I'll switch to Amsoil, as it looks like I can get 100% synthetic Amsoil slightly cheaper than redline. Only thing is some of the Amsoils are blends, none of the Redlines are, so I've always gone with Redline just to avoid any confusion.
#22
http://540ratblog.wordpress.com/ This is the link. BTW I have been using Redline exclusively for 15 years (even in lawn mowers) and I'm going to switch. Love Redline but is a PIA to get. No one locally sells it so I have to order by the case.
#23
I just did some reading, the Ultra finished lower than both Amsoil and Redline, but I'm not sure how objective those tests were as it was Amsoil sponsored. Throwing out the Amsoil though, the Redline looked better than the Ultra. Maybe I'll switch to Amsoil, as it looks like I can get 100% synthetic Amsoil slightly cheaper than redline. Only thing is some of the Amsoils are blends, none of the Redlines are, so I've always gone with Redline just to avoid any confusion.
#24
Redline has done bad things to evos so I tend to stay away.
Anyone running a 40wt oil for extra protection on the track, I seriously encourage you to give amsoil 10w30 zrod a shot. it's not a higher weight that protects the engine - more about film strength, additives etc. Even still, ZROD 10w30 runs slightly thicker than a typical 30wt oil.
Like I said, I'ev got an accoutn with amsoil, I don't charge anyone anything - same invoice price that I pay for mine
Anyone running a 40wt oil for extra protection on the track, I seriously encourage you to give amsoil 10w30 zrod a shot. it's not a higher weight that protects the engine - more about film strength, additives etc. Even still, ZROD 10w30 runs slightly thicker than a typical 30wt oil.
Like I said, I'ev got an accoutn with amsoil, I don't charge anyone anything - same invoice price that I pay for mine
#25
Apexer--wow, thanks for that--I did a quick read, it's impressive in scope, the fact that's it's directly related to track testing is timely, and when I get a chance, I'm going to look at more in depth, and try and get some confirmation on the tester--there is so much back and forth and hidden agendas with something that should be straightforward. If this all checks out, and it does look legit, it's probably the single most useful oil article I've read since I bought the MINI.