Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain About to claim fastest R53 in Alaska!

Old Aug 1, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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About to claim fastest R53 in Alaska!

Keep it short and simple. I am open to improvements and advice to futrther my project safely and efficiently. But heres what I got. I think the more unique bits (based on google research) is the Methanol/water injection and Nitrous kit.

Done so far:

-JCW fuel injectors. Should I upgrade to 550's?

-15% Alta supercharger pulley

-Alta exhaust custom cut and welded to straight exhaust. No wrapping around the battery box. The trick here, may not apply to all but I got the back seat delete kit from outmotoring.com, cut a hole to fit the battery into the panel in that kit to fit my battery, and relocated it there permanently. Which benefited me for multiple reasons. It gets cold in Alaska. Batteries die often. Sometimes a direct jump start off the battery is better then the terminal up front. So its much easier to access. It aslo allows easier access for my methanol kit which requires power for the pump. Anyways, I cut the battery box out, cut the floor out of the box and welded it back up. Cut the bend off the secondary (muffler? resonator?) from the exhaust kit then welded it straight. Sounds deeper now. Also a new wooshing sound occurs during wide open throttle. Its nice.

-Aem methanol/water injection. Mounted the pump near the battery on the back seat delete kit panel. Also the mounted the module on the panel close to the battery. The tank was mounted on my Passenger side rear interior panel.

- Right now I have a huge (for a mini) K&N air filter on the stock piping. Had to remove the upper portion of the box but it looks great, performs great! SC whine is lovely. Since I have a NOS kit waiting to install I am switching it out for a ZEX airfilter so I can screw in the line at the peak of the filter.

-NOS, well its pending my bracket for it. But it will be installed behind the passenger seat on the RSDK panel.

-Got the tuner from mynes bytetronik. Anyone have any experience with these? I was thinking about emailing them my stock tune with the list of parts installed and a few date logs using one of there compatible widebands and paying them to tune it. Good idea?

I guess thats it right now. Ive only been a MINI owner for over a year now and Im loving it and Im loving being able to modify it. Anyone have further suggestions for pulling a more HP out of it? Id really like to twin charge it but cant find a turbo manifold or a manufacturer making the twin charge kit for the R53's anymore.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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I'd suggest that you keep it SC-ONLY or go Turbo-ONLY. Twin-charging is not worth all the hassle IMHO. At the end, it all depends on what you want to do with the car.

Here is what you should do before you do anything to your MINI (get to know it first):
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...883-post1.html

And we don't do Remote Mapping (RM) for NOS.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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SC it is

Someone messaged me warning about twin charging it. I have researched some of the kits but not results. D'oh! So I will stick with just the SC for now. Maybe the sprintex somewhere down the road once this part of the build is complete and things are I guess calmer and less chaotic.

What I want from my car is a very reliable fun dailydriver that on weekends is my sports car. We have races on weekends on tracks. Mostly straights but a few twisties now and then.

A buddy of mine who is helping with the build is a bmw/mini fanatic. He knows a hell of a lot about nos, much more then me. The way he explained it to me is he was going to inject the nos in such a way as to more cool down the intercooler. I found pics and ideas a plenty for custom front mounts which I may give a shot at somewhere down the road, but for now he had a NOS kit laying around and he gave it to me. May as well use it. And that nos will be strictly a weekend addition to my driving.

Im relatively familiar with my car. This is my 2nd R53. The first was just intake, 15% pulley and exhaust. Was a lot of fun til my ex put it in a telephone pull. I just modified this one to match. Im just ready for the next step in performance. Tuning, methanol and NOS are very new to me. I understand the concept of methanol, and so far I am loving it. We only have 90 octane max here in Alaska so the methanol kit really helped with that. Came out looking very clean and running nice. Tuning scares me. Ive heard the horror stories of people tuning cars and causing detonation or other such disasters. Thats kind of why I want to get your remote tune other then play with it by myself. Same goes for my friend. We toyed with tuning it a little and had it pulling great, but at the end of the day we put the stock tune back on. Right now I am waiting for my wideband to show so we can start logging and get the requirements emailed to you guys.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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I should also add that we only plan on using a small shot of nitrous. Thinking around 25-40 shot max.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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ah, ic. In the meantime, you should start logging your car so you can get the hang of it for now. A lot of customers get information over-load b/c they now have all these data to mull over, and they don't know what to do with them or what they really mean. We have a lot more info on the tech form and quite a few guys are running WM kits there.

With some weight reduction and some value mods, you'll have a very fun car at 230WHP (BVH, cam shaft, injectors, ported Intake Mani, good header, etc)... before you move on to the WM or NOS, you have to make sure that the tune is dead on with the 90 octane tune... then go from there.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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So tune for the 90 octane then separatly tune for the methanol. Got it. But, would larger injctors be necessary if the meth being injected is my secondary fuel source? I mean its basically making my car run at a race fuel octane.

In the long run I guess having it tuned for just 90 octane would be nice to have incase for whatever reason methanol isnt available when I run out. It is Alaska. Normal stuff is hard to come by sometimes.

A question I just thought of. We gutted the cat from the header. My NOS friendly friend said running nitrous would melt it. So its gone. Can this tuner completely eliminate the SES light for that code? Otherwise I was going to weld a bung into my header and get an O2 extender.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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Just a thought... IF the engine is TUNED for the w/m, and you run Out.. then you could be in trouble. IF you dont tune for the w/m, get the engine tuned for what you have. Then add the water-meth you will get the benefits, and when you run out.... the engine will still perform good!!

Keep in mind... highways speeds, lots of boosted long runs , you will go thru that w/m pretty fast!! I would say the run from Fairbanks to Anchorage ( like I drive) you can use over two gallons!! Also the res you are going to use is pretty small, unless you keep a good close eye on the quanity in the res... cool??
 
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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The software I have is capable of saving multiple tunes. What my plan is (when I get it tuned) is to keep a good just engine tune. For when I am out of meth or nos. Then a tune for meth. Then a 3rd for meth and nos.
And youre right. The reservoir I have is only a gallon. They make 5 gallon reservoirs but... its a big tank and I only have so much back seat!! As for how often I go through the meth varies. It starts injecting when I hit 6lbs of boost and does full flow at 14lbs. If I am careful, I usually only go through a gallon every 2 weeks. Moderate play, maybe a week. Actual racing, I used a gallon in 3 runs about a 1/2 mile long. I got into the habit of keeping agallon container in the car for if I run out somewhere. Worse case, I simply unplug the pump from the battery which is now right behind the driver seat, swap over to my stock tune ( right now my timing is advanced about 15 degrees). I am a bit paranoid about back up plans.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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so what is the max timing that your MINI running currently? there's also a newer version of FA on the Tech Forum.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Well, thats a lot to copy paste. We changed a few maps. Was there a particular map you wanted to know?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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You don't plan on spraying W/M and Nos at the same time do you?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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Why not?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 03:19 AM
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how cold is nos when it comes out of the bottle? I'm not positive but i think its pretty cold. I could be wrong. But besides the temp you are mixing two very different chemical compounds and when they mix it can have un expected results. I would do a lot of research to see if people use them together.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Actually Nitrous & Meth are a good mix, the biggest problem with Nitrous use is detonation, and Meth being an enrichment fuel it combats detonation, therefore actually making it a very good combination.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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You are correct, i thought nos was much colder than it really is. Considering liquid nitrogen is colder than -100F i figured nos would be as well. It is in fact, much, much warmer, so it wont turn you meth into ice crystals.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Yeah what Mark said, Its really not a bad combo that was what i was hinting at.
 
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