:yawn:

any updates?

 

>>:yawn:
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>>any updates?

Yes, I have the inside scoop. No one else knows about this.

They have been working like crazy on this product. Night and Day with hundreds of dyno runs. Garrett has been quite busy so communication has been a little tough between Garrett and Helix. The numbers that they have seen have been quite impressive. It is going to be released soon possibly in a week or two.

 

That's good news. This will be interesting I'm sure. :smile: :smile:

 

>>That's good news. This will be interesting I'm sure. :smile: :smile:

i think he was being sarcastic

 

I predict GIAC will be out in time for Christmas shoppers. I'm not sure which Christmas.

 

>>>>That's good news. This will be interesting I'm sure. :smile: :smile:
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>>i think he was being sarcastic

I was being sarcastic. Same line we have heard over and over again. Honestly, I think it took some time to crack open the Shark Injector and they were having some trouble reading the software out of the Shark. I think we are about there, since they are onto dyno runs, so they must have gotten the Shark cracked open. I think what they are finding out is that the Shark doesn't make any extra power, so they are having to come up with something extra to give it some oommph! I heard they were going to look at the circuits in the Plasma Booster and some how merge the maps from the Shark into the circuits of the Plasma. Unfortunately we won't get the flashing LEDs found on the Plasma and we will loose the convenience of an ODBII plug-in device. But what we will get is a product that is about is about 30% cheaper than the Shark and Plasma together, makes more power, and requires us to ship the ECU across the country (I hope FEDEX doesn't loose it, that would be a real bummer).

 

Eric,

Does this mean that if I am interested in one, when it comes out, I won't get one because of my sarcastic remarks?

Oh well we have to have some fun here. Two years for a product is sure draining on us.

 

UPS actually did lose my ECU for my VW GTI when I had it shipped across country for a chip upgrade.

Last time i purposefully did business with UPS, that is for sure!

 

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I did get a chance to talk to Eric at Helix13 about GIAC. The GIAC is installed and is running fine in Eric's MCS. The dyno tests need to be done. Unfortunately Eric is really busy with work and there isn't enough time in a day to do everything possible. He'll have to carve out the time to complete all that is needed so we can get GIAC released. He doesn't think it will take long for the 17% and 19% versions to be released once the first version is done.

Eric,
Want to come back to Hawaii soon? We'd love to install the GIAC in quite a few MCS out here.
Open invitation and a party waiting to happen.
Go for it!

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>>I did get a chance to talk to Eric at Helix13 about GIAC. The GIAC is installed and is running fine in Eric's MCS. The dyno tests need to be done. Unfortunately Eric is really busy with work and there isn't enough time in a day to do everything possible. He'll have to carve out the time to complete all that is needed so we can get GIAC released. He doesn't think it will take long for the 17% and 19% versions to be released once the first version is done.
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Minihune,

Your just repeating the same thing we have heard for the last year. Nothing new here. Let's see how many times has it been said?????

Link1-Jan-2004

Link2-Sept. 2003

Link3-Aug-2003

Link4-Jul-2003

 

Just call Eric this AM and find out....get it straight from the horse's mouth.

 

"He doesn't think it will take long for the 17% and 19% versions to be released once the first version is done."

 

In the computing industry, we refer to this as:

 

>>Eric,
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>>Does this mean that if I am interested in one, when it comes out, I won't get one because of my sarcastic remarks?
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>>Oh well we have to have some fun here. Two years for a product is sure draining on us.

Dgszweda1:

You are particularly shrill about GIAC chip. Why are you so angry? Has Garrett or Eric personally promised you that the software would be yours yesterday? Have you ever actually spoken to GIAC or Helix about the chip progress? Without taking the time to read your other posts in other threads, I'd have to guess you have an agenda other than just getting good software for your MINI. So...who's YOUR favorite tuner?

 

>>Minihune,
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>>Your just repeating the same thing we have heard for the last year. Nothing new here. Let's see how many times has it been said?????

I am aware that it can be frustrating not to get something that you have been waiting for.

I have been in contact with Eric regularly in the past week because I am ordering a Quaife Limited Slip differential from Helix13 and I happened to inquire about the GIAC. I want to make it clear that I am going to wait for the GIAC because I think it will be worth the wait. What I posted is the update I had for that date.

You can be sure that if I found out there was some big problem and a great delay I would have posted that as well.
All I can do is to hope that the GIAC gets enough attention that those who are working on it can find the time to complete it and release it for us to enjoy.

And I too have done the search on back threads and found those same old old posts. It is true. :???:

 

>>>>Eric,>>>>>>>& gt;Does this mean that if I am interested in one, when it comes out, I won't get one because of my sarcastic remarks?>>>>>>>>Oh well we have to have some fun here. Two years for a product is sure draining on us.>>>>Dgszweda1:>>>>You are particularly shrill about GIAC chip. Why are you so angry? Has Garrett or Eric personally promised you that the software would be yours yesterday? Have you ever actually spoken to GIAC or Helix about the chip progress? Without taking the time to read your other posts in other threads, I'd have to guess you have an agenda other than just getting good software for your MINI. So...who's YOUR favorite tuner?

My favorite tuner is one that delivers on it's statements. I am not upset with anyone, just frusturated. I keep holding off on my chip decision, but it keeps dragging on. I wait because of the statements, but then nothing comes in the promised week or so. After a year of "it should be out in a week or so" it gets frusturating. I just want honesty. If they say three months then that is fine with me.

 

i'm going to have to agree with dgsweda here....

if it is going to take another 3 months, fine, just say that.... enough of this "should be out in a week or so".... and if that is all rumors, (people pretending to have called and making that up), then i apologize to helix. I know that the internet can produce a lot of B.S., and Helix should not reap the percussions...

Helix has wisely veered clear of this issue on NAM (about the GIAC). Is it safe to assume that since mum is the word, that maybe it is not even near the release time of the chip?

my biggest concerns (as the same as a lot of people, i am sure), is that i will buy another ECU option now (b/c i'm tired of waiting), and then the GIAC will come out a week later and be better.

I would appreciate an honest update on the situation, that would be great. If i know for sure its at least 4 months out, thats cool... then i know for sure.

thanks!
-ABT-

 

Eric is a standup guy and doesn't like to over-hype or even hype things. I think why we keep hearing over and over that it's almost ready is that Garrett is doing all of the programming - and from a remote location. So everytime Helix thinks it's almost done, there's something else Garrett wants to work on or test. Eric freely admits he's new to the whole ECU tuning thing and is learning as they go along. He had no idea there was so much involved.

 

Wow. Charlie just alerted me to the developments on this thread: a good ol' fashioned flame-a-thon.

As you can imagine, nobody is more eager to get the GIAC chip out than me. Because this is our first time helping in the development of a chip, and the fact that we're working with a company 3000 miles away, with different gas, it's been difficult to predict a release date. Thats why I said

"I am cautiously optimistic that we will have something within a week (after a year of working and waiting, you can understand the caution to my optimism)."

For those of you that inferred that as a promise, I apologise. The intent wasn't to mislead you into holding off on another product. I take pride in being straight forward and truthful with customers. I think that if you read what I wrote, or if you spoke with me on the phone, you would find that I am not "dishonest".

Unlike many MINI tuners, we're a shop. To pay the bills, we need to put installations and dyno consulting at the top of the priority list. When we have time for product development, we eagerly do it. At this time of year, everybody is getting their car ready for the summer, so our development time is limited. The GIAC chip is at the top of our priority list, and we will do everything in our power to get it out soon. How soon? I can't tell you, but we're working on it.

 

>>Wow. Charlie just alerted me to the developments on this thread: a good ol' fashioned flame-a-thon.
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>>As you can imagine, nobody is more eager to get the GIAC chip out than me. Because this is our first time helping in the development of a chip, and the fact that we're working with a company 3000 miles away, with different gas, it's been difficult to predict a release date. Thats why I said
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>>"I am cautiously optimistic that we will have something within a week (after a year of working and waiting, you can understand the caution to my optimism)."
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>>For those of you that inferred that as a promise, I apologise. The intent wasn't to mislead you into holding off on another product. I take pride in being straight forward and truthful with customers. I think that if you read what I wrote, or if you spoke with me on the phone, you would find that I am not "dishonest".
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>>Unlike many MINI tuners, we're a shop. To pay the bills, we need to put installations and dyno consulting at the top of the priority list. When we have time for product development, we eagerly do it. At this time of year, everybody is getting their car ready for the summer, so our development time is limited. The GIAC chip is at the top of our priority list, and we will do everything in our power to get it out soon. How soon? I can't tell you, but we're working on it.


Eric,

I don't think that anyone is flaming you here. And I don't think anyone is saying you are dishonest or that you are lieing to us. At least I don't feel that way. I think most of it is just general frusturation. I am trying to evaluate the chip options and want to go with something. I keep hearing in a few weeks, and I know that this is a general statement not a promise, but after a year everyone, including you has to admit that this can be frusturating. It keeps dragging out. I don't want to base my decision on "Well, Helix keeps saying a couple of weeks at this rate it will take another year" and then go out and purchase another brand of chip, only to find out 10 days later the GIAC is released. This is obviously your hottest potential product right now. I think all of us understand that you can't predict that exact release date either. But since a lot has been said, it would be nice to get some constant updates. I know that is a pain, but unfortunately someone let the cat out of the bag over a year ago. If you come back on the board and say "okay we have been working on this for a year now, I made some mistakes on my initial statements, and based on the continuing work I really forsee another 3 or 4 months of work", that would be great. Can you indicate any sort of realistic date?

I have no interest in discrediting you or Helix, that is not my intention, just trying to get some real honest information in order to make an informed decision on where I go. No one can fault a consumer on seeking that. And to be honest, I have vented some of my frusturation, but I have tried to do it in a light hearted manner, and have tried to not attack anyone personally. If I had I am sorry.

Anyway thanks for the small update.

 

Eric,

We realize it's difficult for you to target a date that is not within your direct control. It's just that we've had our whistle wetted for so long that we are straving for the GIAC.

Therefore, why not just cut-to-the-chase and ask Garrett to post his status on NAM? Whether is another week, month, year or ... whatever, at least as the paying public we'll know. Some may move on while others may stay put at wait.

Thanks,
SMKKVK

 

I've been talking to Eric about the GIAC for a long time.

I think the honest answer would be that although GIAC for the MCS is very very far along and almost ready it still has to pass muster by Garrett's standards. Garrett has many projects going on simultaneously-just check the GIAC site to see what he is up to. Eric does not call the shots.

When will it be ready? Hard to say with any definite answer and therein lies the problem. Perhaps those of us that really want it to be ready soon could let Garrett know. This ongoing thread on GIAC to eternity is evidence that there is interest.

Today in the mail I got a box labeled Quaife. I'm going to do that install this week. Then I will be ready and able to add the GIAC when it does officially arrive. Meanwhile I will have to learn to drive better so I can make use of my LSD.
For most of us the ECU upgrade should be the last or nearly last upgrade. We should have software that can take advantage of the mods that we have added and not some generic version tuned mostly for octane level.

Helix13 and others want to sell the GIAC. I'm sure we will find out when it is released. It will not be kept secret.
If you cannot wait then choose carefully. I'm going to wait and I feel comfortable doing so and the consensus in my area from MCS owners is the same. We are having too much fun with our pulley mods to stop upgrading.

 

minihune - Are you sure Motorwerkes will be open tomorrow? Sometimes they take off for a long weekend so no installs on long weekends. That always caught me at the wrong time. Have you spoken to Erik about working with Gerard on MINIs? I sort of left it in your hands as you speak to Erik quite a bit.

 

minihune,

so you got a lsd? that's cool...now you need to come to your 2nd auto-x (you will no longer be a novice...novices are labeled such for only their 1st race) and let an experienced driver test it out. i'm sure baronious would more than love to take your car out to see the potential.

who's doing the install?! HImini also has an lsd and tons of mods but he hasn't come to auto-x either.



>>Today in the mail I got a box labeled Quaife. I'm going to do that install this week. Then I will be ready and able to add the GIAC when it does officially arrive. Meanwhile I will have to learn to drive better so I can make use of my LSD.
>>For most of us the ECU upgrade should be the last or nearly last upgrade. We should have software that can take advantage of the mods that we have added and not some generic version tuned mostly for octane level.
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