Drivetrain Myne's Broke!
To heck with the tune, the damn oil injectors all were broke off by the pistons. anyone that has had one of these motors apart would tell you it is pretty easy to see if your pistons would hit the injectors.
Poor engine build which is enough in my book to have the builder take ownership.
Poor engine build which is enough in my book to have the builder take ownership.
One thing to all those comtemplating a custom tune...
Be 100% sure you and your tuner are both on the same page...
I know when rmw tuned mine, i asked for a good safe tune...so it meant that i did not have huge gains, but a nice drivability increase....others asked for more agressive tunes or even max hp race tunes....can't say the exact differance is, but i suspect it has to do with how aggressively the tuner adjusts things, and tries to matain a safe afr ratio to keep temps down.
every tuner wants to be able to post a OMG look at that hp tune graph, but for a good daily driver with longevity, a good tuner should be able to do that...
it appears hear that the motor build might have been crap....and a very aggressive tune...not a good combo. But there are risks in modding....and dealing with any company and individual/company/vendor. Was it seems to be partial responsibility all around....but in the end, who pays...the owner usually, cause there is no true way to be 100% sure the car was not abused or raced...a warrenty voiding in most cases. In an earlier post the op said he used 10w30 or 10w40 oil i think....reccomended is 5w30 or 5 w40....would it have made a difference, i doubt it...but one more issue...
Be 100% sure you and your tuner are both on the same page...
I know when rmw tuned mine, i asked for a good safe tune...so it meant that i did not have huge gains, but a nice drivability increase....others asked for more agressive tunes or even max hp race tunes....can't say the exact differance is, but i suspect it has to do with how aggressively the tuner adjusts things, and tries to matain a safe afr ratio to keep temps down.
every tuner wants to be able to post a OMG look at that hp tune graph, but for a good daily driver with longevity, a good tuner should be able to do that...
it appears hear that the motor build might have been crap....and a very aggressive tune...not a good combo. But there are risks in modding....and dealing with any company and individual/company/vendor. Was it seems to be partial responsibility all around....but in the end, who pays...the owner usually, cause there is no true way to be 100% sure the car was not abused or raced...a warrenty voiding in most cases. In an earlier post the op said he used 10w30 or 10w40 oil i think....reccomended is 5w30 or 5 w40....would it have made a difference, i doubt it...but one more issue...
This is solid advice. I can't say how many posts I have read on people wanting to "tune" their vehicles without really knowing what that means. I also opted for a lessor tune that provided some HP without pushing the engine to the limits and for a reason... I wanted the car to last. Sure, you can get a lot of power out of the car, but there are chances that it will go boom and when it does, you will be the one that pays. How you use the car really defines on how you should tune it. There is a huge difference between a race track and an interstate.
OP, I am sorry to hear that you are having these problems and I hope that you can get some resolution on this. My only bit of advice that I might offer is that if you plan to sue you might want to pull this thread or at least keep all negative comments to a minimum for now.
OP, I am sorry to hear that you are having these problems and I hope that you can get some resolution on this. My only bit of advice that I might offer is that if you plan to sue you might want to pull this thread or at least keep all negative comments to a minimum for now.
To heck with the tune, the damn oil injectors all were broke off by the pistons. anyone that has had one of these motors apart would tell you it is pretty easy to see if your pistons would hit the injectors.
Poor engine build which is enough in my book to have the builder take ownership.
Poor engine build which is enough in my book to have the builder take ownership.
Originally Posted by Train
I've had two blown engines within 20,000 miles. Both tuned by Mynes. At the time, though, both were attributed to mechanical failures (said Mynes). I had a constant misfire after the second tune that eventually resulted in piston damage as well.
January 2010 was my first tune by Mynes and February 2010 was my first engine failure. The second tune was done the following summer (June 2010 I believe) and resulted in piston damage January 2011.
The cause of both cases very well could have been mechanical, as that is what I have been led to believe by Mynes. Thank you for coming forward, Camaro, because now I am thinking otherwise.
January 2010 was my first tune by Mynes and February 2010 was my first engine failure. The second tune was done the following summer (June 2010 I believe) and resulted in piston damage January 2011.
The cause of both cases very well could have been mechanical, as that is what I have been led to believe by Mynes. Thank you for coming forward, Camaro, because now I am thinking otherwise.
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Are you looking to have Mynes replace the engine parts because they tuned the ecu? Were you expecting one tune to fix all driveability concerns?
How great would that be; drop in an ECU and instantly make 300hp without monitoring the AF and when the engine blows, hold the ECU tuner accountable.
I think maybe your expecting OEM driveability and ease of maintenance when both have been compromised. Its not a DD anymore, its a toy with the irritability of a 3yr/old.
How great would that be; drop in an ECU and instantly make 300hp without monitoring the AF and when the engine blows, hold the ECU tuner accountable.
I think maybe your expecting OEM driveability and ease of maintenance when both have been compromised. Its not a DD anymore, its a toy with the irritability of a 3yr/old.
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Are you looking to have Mynes replace the engine parts because they tuned the ecu? Were you expecting one tune to fix all driveability concerns?
How great would that be; drop in an ECU and instantly make 300hp without monitoring the AF and when the engine blows, hold the ECU tuner accountable.
I think maybe your expecting OEM driveability and ease of maintenance when both have been compromised. Its not a DD anymore, its a toy with the irritability of a 3yr/old.
How great would that be; drop in an ECU and instantly make 300hp without monitoring the AF and when the engine blows, hold the ECU tuner accountable.
I think maybe your expecting OEM driveability and ease of maintenance when both have been compromised. Its not a DD anymore, its a toy with the irritability of a 3yr/old.
This is just a stupid post. I DD my 700hp evo with out a single issue. The wife DD's her 260+hp MINI with out a concern in the world. Hell she drives it 1200 miles round trip to her parents house about once a month. If the tune and motor are done right you have nothing to worry about. AFr and boost will change depending on weather, but not enough to blow a motor....if you don't think its the tune look at the pistons that tells all. Its the tune plus a shitty motor build, that's why the squirters were laying in the pan. Looks like they got beat up by the rods or crank...
Hes not trying to get them to rebuild it or tune his new motor. Alex is going to a better company that doesn't blow motors. Hes just trying to get people to not waist the money in their pockets.
This is just a stupid post. I DD my 700hp evo with out a single issue. The wife DD's her 260+hp MINI with out a concern in the world. Hell she drives it 1200 miles round trip to her parents house about once a month. If the tune and motor are done right you have nothing to worry about. AFr and boost will change depending on weather, but not enough to blow a motor....if you don't think its the tune look at the pistons that tells all. Its the tune plus a shitty motor build, that's why the squirters were laying in the pan. Looks like they got beat up by the rods or crank...
Hes not trying to get them to rebuild it or tune his new motor. Alex is going to a better company that doesn't blow motors. Hes just trying to get people to not waist the money in their pockets.
Hes not trying to get them to rebuild it or tune his new motor. Alex is going to a better company that doesn't blow motors. Hes just trying to get people to not waist the money in their pockets.
Nothing wrong with saying your experience with a place, to warn others of potential issues. That's what the BBB for, consider a car-specific forum a more personal BBB.
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No issues at all? No extra attention then when OEM? DD 350hp/liter... yeah. I've seen 700hp turbo'd 4cyl. too. You may drive it every once in a while, but DD (@ 700 level) 
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
Totally disagree, but then, I live in Indiana. From the perspective of a mild base tune I see where your going.
Of the two threads I've read on this, this is the first time I've seen this POV.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
No issues at all? No extra attention then when OEM? DD 350hp/liter... yeah. I've seen 700hp turbo'd 4cyl. too. You may drive it every once in a while, but DD (@ 700 level)
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
Totally disagree, but then, I live in Indiana. From the perspective of a mild base tune I see where your going.
Of the two threads I've read on this, this is the first time I've seen this POV.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
Totally disagree, but then, I live in Indiana. From the perspective of a mild base tune I see where your going.
Of the two threads I've read on this, this is the first time I've seen this POV.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
Point being 430whp is in a CRX is like 700 in an Evo as far as tuning and driveability is concerned. I'd change the fluid as much as needed with abuse and once brakes/tires are worn. I've only broke axles, which I replaced for free thru Autozone.
I'd expect nothing less for a car starting at $24k that was built for boost and has a solid powertrain like the R53. Once you tune and your setup stays the same you can forget it. Yes thru the seasons it will slightly change but nowhere near enough for it to blow your car up especially at ~250whp when the stock block can easily hold 350whp with proper tuning and fueling.
I will mention this one last time then I'm done with this thread. They altered the torque request table and if they were only looking at afr's they would never of seen an issue. The only way to see the poorly altered tune was via an EGT gauge. I ran their tune with nothing but egt issues and eventually parked it until I had dyno time. I told them my issue and they did nothing until I was on the dyno and had boost building issues. They never mentioned altering those tables to begin with. If they did that for anyone else which I suspect, and with just normal driving you would cook your pistons. I was one of the first people to Guinea Pig this software, and they never changed my torque tables back to stock until June that was 6 months the car sat. I'm guessing they did this for every tune they sent out thus all the motors sitting the bed. I got lucky because I was running an EGT gauge and saw the issue with the tune.
As for the oil injectors, there is no way a tune could cause that other than the all the pistons were so hot and swelled and thus made contact with them. The crank comes close to them, but if it hit them at all then they should of known that in the building prior to even putting the oil pan back on.
Happy Thanksgiving all!
As for the oil injectors, there is no way a tune could cause that other than the all the pistons were so hot and swelled and thus made contact with them. The crank comes close to them, but if it hit them at all then they should of known that in the building prior to even putting the oil pan back on.
Happy Thanksgiving all!
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No issues at all? No extra attention then when OEM? DD 350hp/liter... yeah. I've seen 700hp turbo'd 4cyl. too. You may drive it every once in a while, but DD (@ 700 level)
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
Totally disagree, but then, I live in Indiana. From the perspective of a mild base tune I see where your going.
Of the two threads I've read on this, this is the first time I've seen this POV.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
Totally agree. But then this is quite a blanket statement were the obvious would be agreeable.
Totally disagree, but then, I live in Indiana. From the perspective of a mild base tune I see where your going.
Of the two threads I've read on this, this is the first time I've seen this POV.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
I think its totally unfortunate check has had the experience he's had. Do I think the companies involved slighted him? Can't really determine that from the one-sided perspective of the story. I've had no involvement with these companies. Last thread I subscribed to of Mynes I saw they cracked the OEM ECU and could tune per cylinder. I also saw they only had 1kb or less of space to utilize on the ECU. The question I'd have to ask is what accessibility to tuning I would have after the implementation? The assumption I wouldn't make is after its tuned I'd never have an issue again.
I don't care how many you have "seen"...how many have you owned? Drove? Rode in? Built? Tuned? I've done all that. I just got done putting 200 miles on it today, with about 15ish WFO pulls. I DD it when I get home. I am not home a lot but when I am. Its my DD. I park my truck and drive white lightning. I change the oil and change the tune in the winter to go with the weather...thats it. Used to check bearings all the time but after about the fifth time of pulling the bottom end for nothing I stopped that. The only thing it eats a lot of is clutches. That's only when I launch it. Any high HP AWD car will do that so that's normal. So yeah basic stuff. When you do it right its good to go. I have 18K miles on the built block. About 15K of it at the 700hp level. By the way self built and tuned.
I don't understand your Indiana comment....If your weather changes YOUR TUNE WILL CHANGE. If its 100 degrees out side then 4 months later its 30 degrees you tune will be different. AFr and boost will be off of what you tuned it at.
As for my post being stupid I'll have to disagree again. Too many times in my history with the MINI community I've seen uniformed people destroy their cars. My point is simple, you want a care free driving experience? Keep it OEM.
Alex got bent over and took it and they didnt even spit on it first. Look at the pistons...look at the the squirters...That is tune and motor build.
I talk to Alex. He isnt trying to get anything from them by posting this all he is doing is warning people.
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From: Fruita, CO
I will mention this one last time then I'm done with this thread. They altered the torque request table and if they were only looking at afr's they would never of seen an issue. The only way to see the poorly altered tune was via an EGT gauge. I ran their tune with nothing but egt issues and eventually parked it until I had dyno time. I told them my issue and they did nothing until I was on the dyno and had boost building issues. They never mentioned altering those tables to begin with. If they did that for anyone else which I suspect, and with just normal driving you would cook your pistons. I was one of the first people to Guinea Pig this software, and they never changed my torque tables back to stock until June that was 6 months the car sat. I'm guessing they did this for every tune they sent out thus all the motors sitting the bed. I got lucky because I was running an EGT gauge and saw the issue with the tune.
As for the oil injectors, there is no way a tune could cause that other than the all the pistons were so hot and swelled and thus made contact with them. The crank comes close to them, but if it hit them at all then they should of known that in the building prior to even putting the oil pan back on.
Happy Thanksgiving all!
As for the oil injectors, there is no way a tune could cause that other than the all the pistons were so hot and swelled and thus made contact with them. The crank comes close to them, but if it hit them at all then they should of known that in the building prior to even putting the oil pan back on.
Happy Thanksgiving all!
I agree with all of this, just want to add that the if the bolts holding the OS were loose or loosed up then feel out, the crank hit them on the way down im sure. That is why i safety wire, and red loctite made for oil and heat mine in the 4G63.
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This is really disappointing to read. When I worked at ABF TD, Dez had told me you were having issues and I think I spoke with you once or twice. At the time though I think you had just noticed the low compression and Dez mentioned we might possibly be doing a rebuild for you. Aside from that I had no clue your engine was in this sort of state.
The tuning side I really have no clue what Mynes has done or is doing about this. I rarely talk to them anymore and had no idea they were involved with your car TBH.
Mechanically your engine comes as quite a surprise to me. I've seen Hubies work and have seen him assemble engines many times. It's a shock various issues I know to be pet peeves for him exist in your engine. For example the oil squirters, usualy he is very carefull about the positioning, torque and, how they are held while torque is applied. Same goes for the bore sizes and ring gaps, he is usually very critical about this. Either way though it's a shame it's in the state it's in
FWIW I will be seeing Hubie most likely this week end. I know he can be hard to get a hold of so I can ask him about it if you like. I've never spoken with him about it, but I can see whats up.
The tuning side I really have no clue what Mynes has done or is doing about this. I rarely talk to them anymore and had no idea they were involved with your car TBH.
Mechanically your engine comes as quite a surprise to me. I've seen Hubies work and have seen him assemble engines many times. It's a shock various issues I know to be pet peeves for him exist in your engine. For example the oil squirters, usualy he is very carefull about the positioning, torque and, how they are held while torque is applied. Same goes for the bore sizes and ring gaps, he is usually very critical about this. Either way though it's a shame it's in the state it's in
FWIW I will be seeing Hubie most likely this week end. I know he can be hard to get a hold of so I can ask him about it if you like. I've never spoken with him about it, but I can see whats up.
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Also agreed with both.
Changing the TQ limmiters around is SOP, BUT you cant go too much especially in the low RPM without problems. I also run an EGT gauge (People who laugh at proper instrumentation take note) and it DID make my engine last a little longer, due to being aware of a problem I was having from one of the maps I recieved from Jay.
Jay was also verry specific in that email that it was a verry rough tune based on the MAXIMUM the TQ limmits could be set, and I would need to adjust them down to suit my needs. I pretty much needed to revert everything low pressure and everything below 4500 RPM back to stock, (or slightly above) to stop the EGT spikes/EML LIMP/sensitivity to changing altitude I was having.
I will put up some screen shots of how I had to adjust the TQ limmits, cant really do that now I'm on the PS3 again.
I would really like to see some closeup's of the combustion chambers/valves on all 4 cylinders on your paperweight. You can tell a lot from exhaust valves.
Changing the TQ limmiters around is SOP, BUT you cant go too much especially in the low RPM without problems. I also run an EGT gauge (People who laugh at proper instrumentation take note) and it DID make my engine last a little longer, due to being aware of a problem I was having from one of the maps I recieved from Jay.
Jay was also verry specific in that email that it was a verry rough tune based on the MAXIMUM the TQ limmits could be set, and I would need to adjust them down to suit my needs. I pretty much needed to revert everything low pressure and everything below 4500 RPM back to stock, (or slightly above) to stop the EGT spikes/EML LIMP/sensitivity to changing altitude I was having.
I will put up some screen shots of how I had to adjust the TQ limmits, cant really do that now I'm on the PS3 again.
I would really like to see some closeup's of the combustion chambers/valves on all 4 cylinders on your paperweight. You can tell a lot from exhaust valves.
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From: Arnold, MO.
Since I'm still working and bored out of my scull, I thought that I should share something I just saw with anyone that may be interested.
On a few other forums there is an informative little "rebuttle", if you will to this entire thread, unfortunately it could not be posted here.
Anyway you will have to individually find it for yourselves if your interested.
(The only reason I didn't just copy the whole thing here is because there would be no way for them to respond to any questions or comments)
On a few other forums there is an informative little "rebuttle", if you will to this entire thread, unfortunately it could not be posted here.
Anyway you will have to individually find it for yourselves if your interested.
(The only reason I didn't just copy the whole thing here is because there would be no way for them to respond to any questions or comments)
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Since I'm still working and bored out of my scull, I thought that I should share something I just saw with anyone that may be interested.
On a few other forums there is an informative little "rebuttle", if you will to this entire thread, unfortunately it could not be posted here.
Anyway you will have to individually find it for yourselves if your interested.
On a few other forums there is an informative little "rebuttle", if you will to this entire thread, unfortunately it could not be posted here.
Anyway you will have to individually find it for yourselves if your interested.
Putting aside my friendship with him and going off what I know about the guy based off his work I was very reluctant to believe Hubie would build an engine that poorly. I found out that the "investigative" measurements were either done wrong / not done at all. This was also posted in the other thread BTW. At this point should it come as big surprise that Hubie is reluctant to talk to him after being flamed multiple time across multiple forums with out the correct measurements being made first?
Finding out this sort of thing makes me wonder if the oil squirters were actually busted off by the crank or broken by the person who did the tear down, accidentally or maliciously. TBH it's an extremely bone head move for any builder to position one to be hit by the crank. Given Hubie's engine building experience with MINI it's really tough to believe he messed up on all four. Anything is possible though I guess. Like I said I'm trying to stay nuetral and just look at the facts. Hard to tell though really since an un-bias third party did not investigate it properly.
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From: Arnold, MO.
I'm also doing my best not to make any personal comments in this matter, (another reason for not copying the whole post) simply right, wrong, valid or invalid, they would probably just be dismissed as he's on their side no matter what.
There's always two sides to every story and it's too bad we can't have a rebuttal on this forum to what the op posted. It's hard for me to believe that a shop would jeopardize their long standing reputation on a single engine rebuild and knowingly not do it correctly or use parts that would not withstand normal performance oriented operation. Their's not enough profit in an engine build to take such a gamble. Especially with a shop that stakes their livelihood on the Mini community. Sorry, that just makes no business sense and is totally not logical.
After reading what was written on the "other" forum it seems there is quite a bit more to the story that the op has not divulged. Now I'm wondering why it wasn't divulged and what's the real point in all this?
My personal experience with Mynes has been excellent. Also, my personal experience with RMW has been excellent. I have no experience with the engine builder but for the past three years I've heard nothing but great response on their work.
After reading what was written on the "other" forum it seems there is quite a bit more to the story that the op has not divulged. Now I'm wondering why it wasn't divulged and what's the real point in all this?
My personal experience with Mynes has been excellent. Also, my personal experience with RMW has been excellent. I have no experience with the engine builder but for the past three years I've heard nothing but great response on their work.
I saw this thread too after I replied. I also talked to Hubie, he basically said the same thing to me as what was said there. This answered the the questions I had about the ring gaps and bore sizes.
Putting aside my friendship with him and going off what I know about the guy based off his work I was very reluctant to believe Hubie would build an engine that poorly. I found out that the "investigative" measurements were either done wrong / not done at all. This was also posted in the other thread BTW. At this point should it coime as big surprise that Hubie is reluctant to talk to him after being flamed multiple time across multiple forums with out the correct measurements being made first?
Finding out this sort of thing makes me wonder if the oil squirters were actually busted off by the crank or broken by the person who did the tear down, accidentally or maliciously. TBH it's an extremely bone head move for any builder to position one to be hit by the crank. Given Hubie's engine building experience with MINI it's really tough to believe he messed up on all four. Anything is possible though I guess. Like I said I'm trying to stay nuetral and just look at the facts. Hard to tell though really since an un-bias third party did not investigate it properly.
Putting aside my friendship with him and going off what I know about the guy based off his work I was very reluctant to believe Hubie would build an engine that poorly. I found out that the "investigative" measurements were either done wrong / not done at all. This was also posted in the other thread BTW. At this point should it coime as big surprise that Hubie is reluctant to talk to him after being flamed multiple time across multiple forums with out the correct measurements being made first?
Finding out this sort of thing makes me wonder if the oil squirters were actually busted off by the crank or broken by the person who did the tear down, accidentally or maliciously. TBH it's an extremely bone head move for any builder to position one to be hit by the crank. Given Hubie's engine building experience with MINI it's really tough to believe he messed up on all four. Anything is possible though I guess. Like I said I'm trying to stay nuetral and just look at the facts. Hard to tell though really since an un-bias third party did not investigate it properly.
Hubie contacted me after I made these posts. He had no time to contact me the repeated attempts for months on my part and I was very patient before these posts. I found 3 of 4 the squirters in the oil pan when dropped the oil pan. I even found the 4th in the oil pick up. So it is not my fault the squirters broke.
Kinda sounds like sour grapes after reading the thread in "the other forum".
You beat on a motor, it will go bang....second motor in a short time sums it up...
It all makes sense when the builder chimes in...
Sorry checkmate, but Just having a different forum to air your grievances and hoping for a different result does not work well when these two forums cross pollinate so much.....Sounds like you have buyers remorse...a motor only has some many HP to give...use it up long and slow...or fast and hard....either way, when the fun is done, time for more $$.
You beat on a motor, it will go bang....second motor in a short time sums it up...
It all makes sense when the builder chimes in...
Sorry checkmate, but Just having a different forum to air your grievances and hoping for a different result does not work well when these two forums cross pollinate so much.....Sounds like you have buyers remorse...a motor only has some many HP to give...use it up long and slow...or fast and hard....either way, when the fun is done, time for more $$.
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That response reads like an incoherent tirade.
Zippy, wouldent you be upset if you spent 14k and had the motor blow a year later.
208 is a number plenty of people on this and many other boards run around with every day and have 0 problems.
My car has been making well north of 260 for over a year and so far it has not blown up.
So try explaining how thats the case.
Mike they were busted off by the pistons, look at the impact marks and were nailed by the crank as it was spinning and they fell down. I find it hard to believe you would even accuse someone of destroying the squirter's. Did you see the pictures of the pistons? don't know what to say there?
Zippy, wouldent you be upset if you spent 14k and had the motor blow a year later.
208 is a number plenty of people on this and many other boards run around with every day and have 0 problems.
My car has been making well north of 260 for over a year and so far it has not blown up.
So try explaining how thats the case.
Mike they were busted off by the pistons, look at the impact marks and were nailed by the crank as it was spinning and they fell down. I find it hard to believe you would even accuse someone of destroying the squirter's. Did you see the pictures of the pistons? don't know what to say there?
There's always two sides to every story and it's too bad we can't have a rebuttal on this forum to what the op posted. It's hard for me to believe that a shop would jeopardize their long standing reputation on a single engine rebuild and knowingly not do it correctly or use parts that would not withstand normal performance oriented operation. Their's not enough profit in an engine build to take such a gamble. Especially with a shop that stakes their livelihood on the Mini community. Sorry, that just makes no business sense and is totally not logical.
After reading what was written on the "other" forum it seems there is quite a bit more to the story that the op has not divulged. Now I'm wondering why it wasn't divulged and what's the real point in all this?
My personal experience with Mynes has been excellent. Also, my personal experience with RMW has been excellent. I have no experience with the engine builder but for the past three years I've heard nothing but great response on their work.
After reading what was written on the "other" forum it seems there is quite a bit more to the story that the op has not divulged. Now I'm wondering why it wasn't divulged and what's the real point in all this?
My personal experience with Mynes has been excellent. Also, my personal experience with RMW has been excellent. I have no experience with the engine builder but for the past three years I've heard nothing but great response on their work.
Kinda sounds like sour grapes after reading the thread in "the other forum".
You beat on a motor, it will go bang....second motor in a short time sums it up...
It all makes sense when the builder chimes in...
Sorry checkmate, but Just having a different forum to air your grievances and hoping for a different result does not work well when these two forums cross pollinate so much.....Sounds like you have buyers remorse...a motor only has some many HP to give...use it up long and slow...or fast and hard....either way, when the fun is done, time for more $$.
You beat on a motor, it will go bang....second motor in a short time sums it up...
It all makes sense when the builder chimes in...
Sorry checkmate, but Just having a different forum to air your grievances and hoping for a different result does not work well when these two forums cross pollinate so much.....Sounds like you have buyers remorse...a motor only has some many HP to give...use it up long and slow...or fast and hard....either way, when the fun is done, time for more $$.
Originally Posted by jaytech
Hello everyone,
I am sure some of you are thinking, where are the mynes guys and why they are not here defending against members who are not even customers or would ever be in the first place right? Well the answer is that we are busy and have a business to run. First thing first, I would like to address this huge lie of an issue coming from Mr. Alex Comeau (checkmate2006) from Kansas with all this propaganda from the far extreme
with help from RMW to help with this extreme bashing and slander. Let's start with the history and how Mr.Comeau got in contact with us. My memory comes to me that he found us through a mutual friend/customer from Arizona. I think at the time, we have already relocated to California at the Lake Forest location, correct me if I am wrong. He wanted a tune and complained how much he dislikes RMW and he couldn't tune his mini correctly etc etc... I hear this all the time, and it goes through one of my ears and out the other. The car comes to the shop in Lake Forest, CA along with our mutual friend/customer. We strap it down on the dyno. Do some base pulls... (Now I've heard from the grapevine what I am about to say... Mr.Comeau 100% denies now and short term memory like most Americans do.) While doing the base pulls before any tuning his engine had some blow by and it did in fact smoke up the shop while on the dyno. Even the mutual friend/customer was there and can contest to this as Mr.Comeau denies. I told Mike, I don't think we should tune this car, because if this engine is burning oil in whatever cylinder it is...this can cause premature detonation under extreme operating conditions. Mike and I decided to let him know as he was standing right there the whole time seeing and smelling all this blue/white smoke and while on the dyno and revving out it sounded like it was going to blow.I laughed and said "Alex, this engine is going to blow" His response...."He knows the engine is on it's way out and I've already spoken to Hubie about a engine rebuild... So if it goes, I want a built engine" Now this is the kicker... before I started to tune his ECU, of course a tuner would read out the ROM first for backup. Guess what, we ran into some communication problems. I had to retry and retry and finally, the ECU allowed the read. Once I read out the ROM. Our software...make sure you listen here forum members...there was no Bytetronik of FA53 out at this time. The kicker...Alex Comeau never had Bytetronik software in his ECU, because at the time in that year... it didn't exist. We used EcuFlash,EVC, and Byteshooter. The Ecuflash version is what we used to read out his ECU and to save the file for backup. Once we did that...as we were still under development... I noticed that our Ecuflash version for mini did not have his software version settings file or xml. And plus he was running an old version of the Siemens VDO EMS5150 software. We have an Autologic, and I inquired that to do a software update. Then when trying to initialize the update, we came into another communication problem as the Autologic checks and queries the IKE (Instrument Cluster) ECU to get coding data, mileage and the gateway to the EWS (Immobilizer).We could not communicate with his vehicle and had to abort this update due to some wiring issues in his car. May I add, he wired up a AIM Dash display himself... maybe he cut some incorrect wires or something. Now this puts a monkey wrench in getting a update to the newest software version so I can use the Ecuflash version of our own software. The newer version of the software, we have the setting file/xml for mapping with our own software, but not for his older version just yet. So I had to open up another program, and I am sure some of you have heard of EVC WinOLS. With this piece of software we use the ROM emulator as we were doing development work in finding maps and testing whilst the engine is running. Within EVC WinOLS you can import a csv file into which have map address and scalings. So when you open a ROM into it and run this file, it would read your file and find all the maps within your file. In this set up I have his older version file list within EVC WinOLS but I haven't yet implemented into our software yet. No big deal, so I mapped his engine with EVC WinOLS and used Byteshooter to flash the tune file into his ECU. So his first tune, was not and never on Bytetronik...let's move on.
Engine tuned, he drives it and loves it. And I reminded him, about his motor not healthy with all that oil burning.Guess what forum members, motor went....That's exactly what happened. Did he post anything negative towards us for tuning his car and made it blow up from a bad tune at that time....The answer is no! He was full aware of it. Now...he takes his own engine apart because I think he wants to learn as much as possible about his mini. It's nothing wrong with that at all. But when you do that, make sure you can put it all back together. Well long story short, he ships the car to ABF in Lake Forest,CA in pieces for Hubie to do a complete rebuild with forged pistons. Now that is the end of the first tune that he claims was a bad tune and melted a piston.
Second motor Ordeal
Hubie finishes motor, break it in. Calls me to come tune it. At this time, I am tuning with our Ecuflash version software now. Still Bytetronik FA53 is not out yet, because this is still 2010 and FA was released in Jan 2011, he never had FA. So any ways, tune the car. Tune is good,as he stands right there watching us tune it along with Chase and Colin...yes RMW Colin! he drives car and happy. Drives home, follow up, still happy. Drives all over the country even to MTTS, the Dragon etc. He's having issues with blow by and misfiring problems. Mike tries to help him trouble shoot as he posted. Checks compression, and it's low. But still drives it and race people including Chase and Colin and bragged about beating them both. See him at the Dragon and he told me he is having some issue with misfiring on cyl 3 and low compression. I made a joke and said..."Geez you messed that engine up already?" Anyways I told him I would look at it for him while I was there as I was helping out at the Sprintex booth. But...get this... He's hanging with Mr. RMW and Colin at the Dragon and was pretty much around that booth the whole 3 days I was there. I noted to my brother... I'll give this guy 1 month to come up with some crap hanging out those guys. Guess what... This thread!!! lol
He contacts Mike, and ask him for a full refund of the tunes and put his ECU back to stock. Mike agreed to putting his ECU back to stock, but not on a full refund. Mike asked him, "Do you think we rent out tunes?" I guess he didn't like that answer.. So here we go again... This Thread! lol
Now any person can look at the pictures of his built engine and can see, there is no melted piston and no signs of detonation from a bad tune.Hubie has offered him new piston rings and I guess he declined that offer. Oh wait, let me copy and paste this from our forum. I have a little write up over there about my meeting with Hubie today 11/23/2011 and this is what I wrote:
Just talked with Hubie 5 minutes ago in person as he just dropped by, and he told me he did talk with Alex after his serial posting over all the forums. And found out he was measuring the pistons clearance above the wrist pin (idiot) and also Alex said that the rings gaps were too big. So Hubie asked him what was the clearance and does he has a feeler gauge to measure them. Alex replied, he doesn't have a feeler gauge. So Hubie asked him how does he know that the ring gaps are too big. Alex replied that he assumed since the piston clearance was too big. But Alex doesn't know that you have to measure the piston clearance from the skirts of the pistons, which are below the wrist pin. So Hubie asked him why is posting stuff like this and you are not even using the correct tools to measure these parts. Hubie also offered to send him replacement piston rings once he gets the correct piston clearances and cylinder clearances. But Alex does not have the tools to do this. So Hubie ask him why doesn't send the block and parts to a machine shop to check everything. Alex replies "I don't know" this kid has no idea what he is doing, and who is advising him doesn't even know as well.
Now for the tune... Hubie told me that Alex doesn't really know if the tune was bad or not. So Hubie asked him why is he posting stuff up about the engine or tune. And Alex replies that he was upset and plus he thinks the tune was bad because it melted a piston before and it must be a bad tune. But Alex must have short-term memory because I told him that his motor was on his way out because it was smoking a lot on the dyno just getting base pulls. But it was my mistake even giving him a tune in the first place with the engine smoking and me knowing when a cylinder is consuming oil would cause premature detonation under extreme engine operation. But he insisted and was going to be buying an engine rebuild from Hubie once his engine goes. And that was exactly what he did, until now he changes his story to make us look like the bad guys of giving him a bad tune.
I told Hubie this today, he wants a stroker engine from RMW, and I guess he gets a discount coupon to slander the both of us. To you Alex,
I wish you luck on your new engine and tune. And hopefully when something goes wrong, you don't keep dragging on your engine and racing
people knowing something is wrong. I am pretty much done with this, and everyone here can continue to bash and slander, I have work to do and orders to fill. Let's move on to the next subject.......below
Now this is the most funniest thing ever heard. I hear that RMW tells people we blew tons of EVOs. Ok...where? Where are these EVOs we have
blown up. This is the same story that Rick at Boostec told us what Jan said about us when he first got involved with the whole Sprintex superchargers. He told Rick, that we moved from Arizona to California to get away from all the EVOs we have blown up. I was laughing my butt
off, I am like, where???? Does he have a name of this fictitous person, the color and year of this evo or evos, the last 7 digits of the VIN number or something??? I said to myself, typical Jan...lol
Now this is another funny one... He says that FA changes your tune while you drive. Ok....lol let me get this straight... The ECU has 64k of calibration ROM memory area. While the ECU's CPU is reading that area to run the car. It erases your flash and write some bogus values in it's place.... But the engine still runs even though the memory was erased??? He is so smart, because first, that is impossible to erase something that the CPU is reading in ROM and write back with out interruption. Second, the flashing code would not allow this, Third, the 64K sector in memory has to be completely erased and rewritten even if you are only changing 1 byte. That just shows you that this guy is out of touch and would do anything or say anything to make someone look bad. But only making himself look really dumb in the process.
Now let's get to the FullAccess and it's meaning... Because you guys have came up with some stuff was pretty funny...I'm telling you...lol
ByteTronik FullAccess FA53 - The meaning of FullAccess does not mean you have full control of your stock ECU. It means that you have full
access to 35 maps on the end user version and close to 250 maps on the dealer version. Full access means you have access to your ecu 24/7
365 days a year. Full Access means you can tune or get your ecu tuned when ever you like and you don't have to wait for anyone. Full Access means you can eating dinner, and tuning your mini can cross your mind... and you can jump up off the table, grab your laptop and Miniport and flash your car at your convenience.
Carry on guys, Happy Thanksgiving! (Americans) not sure if UK celebrate Thanksgiving.
Jay
I am sure some of you are thinking, where are the mynes guys and why they are not here defending against members who are not even customers or would ever be in the first place right? Well the answer is that we are busy and have a business to run. First thing first, I would like to address this huge lie of an issue coming from Mr. Alex Comeau (checkmate2006) from Kansas with all this propaganda from the far extreme
with help from RMW to help with this extreme bashing and slander. Let's start with the history and how Mr.Comeau got in contact with us. My memory comes to me that he found us through a mutual friend/customer from Arizona. I think at the time, we have already relocated to California at the Lake Forest location, correct me if I am wrong. He wanted a tune and complained how much he dislikes RMW and he couldn't tune his mini correctly etc etc... I hear this all the time, and it goes through one of my ears and out the other. The car comes to the shop in Lake Forest, CA along with our mutual friend/customer. We strap it down on the dyno. Do some base pulls... (Now I've heard from the grapevine what I am about to say... Mr.Comeau 100% denies now and short term memory like most Americans do.) While doing the base pulls before any tuning his engine had some blow by and it did in fact smoke up the shop while on the dyno. Even the mutual friend/customer was there and can contest to this as Mr.Comeau denies. I told Mike, I don't think we should tune this car, because if this engine is burning oil in whatever cylinder it is...this can cause premature detonation under extreme operating conditions. Mike and I decided to let him know as he was standing right there the whole time seeing and smelling all this blue/white smoke and while on the dyno and revving out it sounded like it was going to blow.I laughed and said "Alex, this engine is going to blow" His response...."He knows the engine is on it's way out and I've already spoken to Hubie about a engine rebuild... So if it goes, I want a built engine" Now this is the kicker... before I started to tune his ECU, of course a tuner would read out the ROM first for backup. Guess what, we ran into some communication problems. I had to retry and retry and finally, the ECU allowed the read. Once I read out the ROM. Our software...make sure you listen here forum members...there was no Bytetronik of FA53 out at this time. The kicker...Alex Comeau never had Bytetronik software in his ECU, because at the time in that year... it didn't exist. We used EcuFlash,EVC, and Byteshooter. The Ecuflash version is what we used to read out his ECU and to save the file for backup. Once we did that...as we were still under development... I noticed that our Ecuflash version for mini did not have his software version settings file or xml. And plus he was running an old version of the Siemens VDO EMS5150 software. We have an Autologic, and I inquired that to do a software update. Then when trying to initialize the update, we came into another communication problem as the Autologic checks and queries the IKE (Instrument Cluster) ECU to get coding data, mileage and the gateway to the EWS (Immobilizer).We could not communicate with his vehicle and had to abort this update due to some wiring issues in his car. May I add, he wired up a AIM Dash display himself... maybe he cut some incorrect wires or something. Now this puts a monkey wrench in getting a update to the newest software version so I can use the Ecuflash version of our own software. The newer version of the software, we have the setting file/xml for mapping with our own software, but not for his older version just yet. So I had to open up another program, and I am sure some of you have heard of EVC WinOLS. With this piece of software we use the ROM emulator as we were doing development work in finding maps and testing whilst the engine is running. Within EVC WinOLS you can import a csv file into which have map address and scalings. So when you open a ROM into it and run this file, it would read your file and find all the maps within your file. In this set up I have his older version file list within EVC WinOLS but I haven't yet implemented into our software yet. No big deal, so I mapped his engine with EVC WinOLS and used Byteshooter to flash the tune file into his ECU. So his first tune, was not and never on Bytetronik...let's move on.
Engine tuned, he drives it and loves it. And I reminded him, about his motor not healthy with all that oil burning.Guess what forum members, motor went....That's exactly what happened. Did he post anything negative towards us for tuning his car and made it blow up from a bad tune at that time....The answer is no! He was full aware of it. Now...he takes his own engine apart because I think he wants to learn as much as possible about his mini. It's nothing wrong with that at all. But when you do that, make sure you can put it all back together. Well long story short, he ships the car to ABF in Lake Forest,CA in pieces for Hubie to do a complete rebuild with forged pistons. Now that is the end of the first tune that he claims was a bad tune and melted a piston.
Second motor Ordeal
Hubie finishes motor, break it in. Calls me to come tune it. At this time, I am tuning with our Ecuflash version software now. Still Bytetronik FA53 is not out yet, because this is still 2010 and FA was released in Jan 2011, he never had FA. So any ways, tune the car. Tune is good,as he stands right there watching us tune it along with Chase and Colin...yes RMW Colin! he drives car and happy. Drives home, follow up, still happy. Drives all over the country even to MTTS, the Dragon etc. He's having issues with blow by and misfiring problems. Mike tries to help him trouble shoot as he posted. Checks compression, and it's low. But still drives it and race people including Chase and Colin and bragged about beating them both. See him at the Dragon and he told me he is having some issue with misfiring on cyl 3 and low compression. I made a joke and said..."Geez you messed that engine up already?" Anyways I told him I would look at it for him while I was there as I was helping out at the Sprintex booth. But...get this... He's hanging with Mr. RMW and Colin at the Dragon and was pretty much around that booth the whole 3 days I was there. I noted to my brother... I'll give this guy 1 month to come up with some crap hanging out those guys. Guess what... This thread!!! lol
He contacts Mike, and ask him for a full refund of the tunes and put his ECU back to stock. Mike agreed to putting his ECU back to stock, but not on a full refund. Mike asked him, "Do you think we rent out tunes?" I guess he didn't like that answer.. So here we go again... This Thread! lol
Now any person can look at the pictures of his built engine and can see, there is no melted piston and no signs of detonation from a bad tune.Hubie has offered him new piston rings and I guess he declined that offer. Oh wait, let me copy and paste this from our forum. I have a little write up over there about my meeting with Hubie today 11/23/2011 and this is what I wrote:
Just talked with Hubie 5 minutes ago in person as he just dropped by, and he told me he did talk with Alex after his serial posting over all the forums. And found out he was measuring the pistons clearance above the wrist pin (idiot) and also Alex said that the rings gaps were too big. So Hubie asked him what was the clearance and does he has a feeler gauge to measure them. Alex replied, he doesn't have a feeler gauge. So Hubie asked him how does he know that the ring gaps are too big. Alex replied that he assumed since the piston clearance was too big. But Alex doesn't know that you have to measure the piston clearance from the skirts of the pistons, which are below the wrist pin. So Hubie asked him why is posting stuff like this and you are not even using the correct tools to measure these parts. Hubie also offered to send him replacement piston rings once he gets the correct piston clearances and cylinder clearances. But Alex does not have the tools to do this. So Hubie ask him why doesn't send the block and parts to a machine shop to check everything. Alex replies "I don't know" this kid has no idea what he is doing, and who is advising him doesn't even know as well.
Now for the tune... Hubie told me that Alex doesn't really know if the tune was bad or not. So Hubie asked him why is he posting stuff up about the engine or tune. And Alex replies that he was upset and plus he thinks the tune was bad because it melted a piston before and it must be a bad tune. But Alex must have short-term memory because I told him that his motor was on his way out because it was smoking a lot on the dyno just getting base pulls. But it was my mistake even giving him a tune in the first place with the engine smoking and me knowing when a cylinder is consuming oil would cause premature detonation under extreme engine operation. But he insisted and was going to be buying an engine rebuild from Hubie once his engine goes. And that was exactly what he did, until now he changes his story to make us look like the bad guys of giving him a bad tune.
I told Hubie this today, he wants a stroker engine from RMW, and I guess he gets a discount coupon to slander the both of us. To you Alex,
I wish you luck on your new engine and tune. And hopefully when something goes wrong, you don't keep dragging on your engine and racing
people knowing something is wrong. I am pretty much done with this, and everyone here can continue to bash and slander, I have work to do and orders to fill. Let's move on to the next subject.......below
Now this is the most funniest thing ever heard. I hear that RMW tells people we blew tons of EVOs. Ok...where? Where are these EVOs we have
blown up. This is the same story that Rick at Boostec told us what Jan said about us when he first got involved with the whole Sprintex superchargers. He told Rick, that we moved from Arizona to California to get away from all the EVOs we have blown up. I was laughing my butt
off, I am like, where???? Does he have a name of this fictitous person, the color and year of this evo or evos, the last 7 digits of the VIN number or something??? I said to myself, typical Jan...lol
Now this is another funny one... He says that FA changes your tune while you drive. Ok....lol let me get this straight... The ECU has 64k of calibration ROM memory area. While the ECU's CPU is reading that area to run the car. It erases your flash and write some bogus values in it's place.... But the engine still runs even though the memory was erased??? He is so smart, because first, that is impossible to erase something that the CPU is reading in ROM and write back with out interruption. Second, the flashing code would not allow this, Third, the 64K sector in memory has to be completely erased and rewritten even if you are only changing 1 byte. That just shows you that this guy is out of touch and would do anything or say anything to make someone look bad. But only making himself look really dumb in the process.
Now let's get to the FullAccess and it's meaning... Because you guys have came up with some stuff was pretty funny...I'm telling you...lol
ByteTronik FullAccess FA53 - The meaning of FullAccess does not mean you have full control of your stock ECU. It means that you have full
access to 35 maps on the end user version and close to 250 maps on the dealer version. Full access means you have access to your ecu 24/7
365 days a year. Full Access means you can tune or get your ecu tuned when ever you like and you don't have to wait for anyone. Full Access means you can eating dinner, and tuning your mini can cross your mind... and you can jump up off the table, grab your laptop and Miniport and flash your car at your convenience.
Carry on guys, Happy Thanksgiving! (Americans) not sure if UK celebrate Thanksgiving.
Jay
Jayson you have a poor short and long term memory in comparison to mine. I never once heard you say that my car was about to go. I told you that I have plans to go turbo-only. My car didn't fill the shop with blue and white smoke maybe raw uncatalyzed exhaust because I was running a megan header catless but not blue/white smoke. Also when I came out there for the first tune I didn't have the AIMsport MXL Strada yet I in fact drove cross country using my ScanGuageII as a speedo and tach which was interesting. I had told you that I was thinking about getting a AIMsport MXL Strada to replace my speedo/tach combo (I have the chrono pack) and your reply to getting the AIMsport MXL Strada was a baller. Here is the hard irrefutable proof that I got it after the tune and just 3 weeks before the motor melting a piston.
The installation of the AIMsport MXL Strada takes 4 wires CAN+/CAN-/Power/Ground. I had a professional make the connections.
When you tuned it the first time I had asked you why did my interior ambient lighting and instrumentation lighting wasn't working but the gauges in the chrono pack still worked after not having the speedo/tach over the steering wheel. That communication issue you are talking about was when you were retuning the car. You told me it was the immobilizer and how it was probably how the motor went that wrote a line in the so called revolving code of the immobilizer.
The always racing people....LIE. After getting the car back from the rebuild. I was shown around on one of the many awesome canyon roads by Colin. The racing part is where you are soooo wrong. If you can recall my car has at the most 4 inches of ground clearance in the front. California has some gnarly roads FACT. When you drive a car as low as mine and at the same time just getting it back from rebuild with a totally different driveablity as far as the lightweight flywheel I had to relearn how to drive over bumps, cracks, etc. I actually killed it at this so called point I raced Colin because I was relearning to drive it and on a rough intersection. Then racing chase....we were in traffic he had his dad in the car with him beside me I rolled into it is all I DID NOT RACE.
Then the conversation with Hubie he never once said he would provide anything to me other then measurements. He said that once I finally get around to rebuilding to give him a call for parts or anything.
Last edited by checkmate2006; Nov 24, 2011 at 02:11 PM.
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Mike,
Hubie contacted me after I made these posts. He had no time to contact me the repeated attempts for months on my part and I was very patient before these posts. I found 3 of 4 the squirters in the oil pan when dropped the oil pan. I even found the 4th in the oil pick up. So it is not my fault the squirters broke.
Hubie contacted me after I made these posts. He had no time to contact me the repeated attempts for months on my part and I was very patient before these posts. I found 3 of 4 the squirters in the oil pan when dropped the oil pan. I even found the 4th in the oil pick up. So it is not my fault the squirters broke.
Mike they were busted off by the pistons, look at the impact marks and were nailed by the crank as it was spinning and they fell down. I find it hard to believe you would even accuse someone of destroying the squirter's. Did you see the pictures of the pistons? don't know what to say there?
The pistons mechanically look great. There is very little wear on the skirts which contradicts the belief that the bore clearances were off. The carbon build up progressively get less further down the ring lands and is non existent below them lending to the assumption there is little to no major blow by.
Further more Alex admitted to Hubie he only use a micrometer measuring at the top of the piston. It's not a big deal, he didn't know, but it not actuate non the less and was the only measurement made. The bore size and ring lands were assumed to be off as he did not measure either one.
He also told both Hubie and I the compression tester he used was very cheap and possibly inaccurate and that his leak down tester did not work.
Basically in the end some hasty things were said and the people involve had to hash that out. Not an uncommon story really. TBH I don't know why this tread is even up still as it only lends it self to ridicule as more info comes out.
Last edited by Mike@Tech Division; Nov 24, 2011 at 03:14 PM.
Here's a suggestion. You're most likely going to get a engine rebuild/tune from someone. I'd go back to the guys who did it before, see if you all can come to some agreement that is satisfactory to all and get it redone. If you go somewhere else you'll be paying full retail for their work and any needed parts. Since this has become such a public issue it's in all of your best interests to resolve it so everyone comes out a winner even though it's a tough situation. If Mynes/ABF is agreeable and you are willing to concede there is a lot of unknowns then you end up with a rebuilt/tuned engine and they end up with a satisfied customer. Fighting and pointing fingers isn't going to end in a "winning" solution for anyone.
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Mike,
Hubie contacted me after I made these posts. He had no time to contact me the repeated attempts for months on my part and I was very patient before these posts. I found 3 of 4 the squirters in the oil pan when dropped the oil pan. I even found the 4th in the oil pick up. So it is not my fault the squirters broke.
Hubie contacted me after I made these posts. He had no time to contact me the repeated attempts for months on my part and I was very patient before these posts. I found 3 of 4 the squirters in the oil pan when dropped the oil pan. I even found the 4th in the oil pick up. So it is not my fault the squirters broke.
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Your situation sux. Good luck getting it resolved. The main thing we should all remember is you take a big chance whenever you mod your car. Unfortunately, the majority of "tuners" I've seen doing ECU work have very little clue how to properly tweak the Siemens EMS2k that's in our R53's.