How about Alta turbo kit to go with all my other Alta stuff??

 

<$1000 >$500 Good guess!

That is an R56 Auto (lower WHP than manual), I will color the graph like i did on the others so its visible to everyone. I realized that i gave Gary the raw graph, which doesn't really shows on the web. But i think overall a properly tuned car will make the same HP. I think we have an advantage of power from idle all the way to 5500. From there up, i really think that there is only so much to gain before going to a bigger turbo.

What side tracked me from putting up the 250whp/300tq graph is a quick test drive testing out that same car. 23-ish psi really puts you in the seat.

I have had one sitting on my desk for a couple years, and finally i have a way to tune it and offer it to other customers!

That part may be brought back also! Just like the other turbo we were never really able to use it to its full advantage until now!

 

WOW! -just saw this thread.. enjoying every post!! -subscribed.

I don't have a lot of knowledge w/ tuning cars from the ECU, ..does this tune account for all kinds of variables that people may have on their cars? (i.e. some of us have CAI's and FMIC's, ...whereas others have exhaust to add to that, some are stock, etc...).

Also, how would this work, meaning would we bring our car somewhere to have it tuned, or do we tune it ourself using this device?

thanks/sorry if my questions are repetitive or seem like common sense.

 

The AccessPORT is made for everyone and you don't need to be an ECU or tuning expert to use. Its so simple that even those without a PC can install and use this.

Your question about how does the tune account for other parts. Well that is a good question. Between the way we tune the ECU and the way the ECU works, we have all these things covered. What is kind of cool with what we have learned is that very few parts "require" a re-tune. Some combinations of parts require a retune if you want to get the most from them. This is somewhat of a vauge answer, but in do time we will furhter explain how we tune and what maps we have and all that.


You asked how does this work. The simple answer is this. You tell me the car you have, the parts, and fuel you use, we either email you the map pack you need and ship the ALTA AccessPORT, or we can load your map onto the device it self.

Initially we will not be offer all stages and all combinations of map, but we will be offering quite a few to start!

 

According to the CobbTuning website, the AccessPORT costs $595.00

http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=4874

So yes, > $500 for sure

 

I suspect it will be competitively priced with the other remote tuning tools. I'm not sure what Mynes is selling the Dimsport tool and tune for but to get the Dimsport tool and tune from RMW it'll cost you $869 for a canned tune. Mynes and RMW use the same Dimsport tool and software. I may be wrong but as the AccessPORT has more features than the Dimsport tool I would logically expect a slightly higher price in comparison.

 

what kind of time frame are we looking at for r53's?

 

Of course, I was pointing out that the base price is at $595.00 just for the tool. Beside, according to CobbTuning, they don't even support MINI's so it's not like we could go and buy one from them. Just trying to help those curious about the price while they wait.

The tool from RMW is $369.00 just for reference, and the tuned ECU is $500.00

 

Yep. Jeff has already indicated it will be less than 1k for the tool with a canned tune included. With a $226 price difference in the tool they'll be charging less for the tune if they keep it under 1k as Jeff has indicated. I'm sure ALTA will let us know the price next week so we can all stop guessing as to what it might be.

Do I know, I think so. But I might be wrong. Am I gonna say what I think it will cost, hell no!

 

Oops, my error. Jeff had said <1k>500 was a good guess, he didn't actually indicate it would be <1k

 

I think he meant <$1000, but >$500, which would be $500-$1000 There's a space between the two numbers. That's my guess

 

At these price points vendor selection is really going to come down to a) reputation and b) posted results/user experience.
Being new here, I am well acquainted with the RMW tune having read just about every thread on the subject and every dyno chart posted (the kool aid not only tastes good, it's addictive). Heck, a few weeks ago I didn't even know what a dyno chart was!
I am not too familiar with Mynes and Alta is new in this space. However, I am reading much enthusiasm in Jeff's posts and since I will not be ordering for some time, I am content on waiting and seeing how this plays out.
I have thoroughly discussed this with the Mrs. and we feel that an ECU tuned MCS is more bang for the buck over a JCW since I will be looking more for a spirited street performer vs track car. So an ECU tune is in my future...and I will be watching this space very carefully!
Given the current lay of the land an Alta tune for much more than $869 will not be competitive unless there is a noticeable value, IMHO. But, as I said, I will keep an open mind and see how this plays out...should be fun!

 

I've always been opposed to paying much more for hardware that doesn't merit the price. The AccessPORT is essentially an LCD screen, some buttons, a microcontroller 1 or 2 level shifters, and a bunch of passive components. That can't be worth $500!!

 

True...But a gun is nothing more than a hunk of metal with a few springs a pieces of plastic. But I am more than willing to pay for one that is properly machined and in good working order and I know will work when I need it to. I would never bring a slab of metal to a gun fight.

 

So, a few have asked.....

Is anything like this going to be available for R53s?

Come on, Alta....Help the supercharged family out a bit.....There are probably more of us than the turbos. Not that either is a bad thing. I just want some kool-aid also. Wait...I hate kool-aid.

 

If Alta is smart the will get us a lower prices to compete with the other two tuners and gain back some trust from consumers.

 

Also with a 250hp mini what does that mean on a track. Does a 15sec mini turn into a 14sec mini?

 

a) Sometimes we forget that there are always new customers who are not familar with us. And like your self, it shows that we don't have enough info out there on this subject to win customers over. We are trying to change that. If you look back a few years when the R56 came out, you will see ALTA was the first to bring you aftermarket parts. We also gave you proof that our parts work. There isn't a part we have that i don't have a dyno graph for it. Also, we have a dyno! This tool is so valuable that its sitting right here all the time. I can leave cars on it, i dyno when i want, and i can experiment on things. Unlike other tuners, we are not at the mercy of another shop's dyno.

b) I have results for most all cars and setups, and you will see all of them next week. We have been pretty quite on the ECU tuning front for the MINI for a long time. Mainly because of the last ECU tuning product we sold which failed for 99% of our customers (not our fault). So this time around, we made 100% sure what we are selling and tuning is on "par" with what customers expect. Actually more like "Eagle" from what our customers expect.

c) Yes you didn't ask, but our tuning experience far exceeds others on the forums. Besides being the first ones to get a US Mini and tune one, we have been tuning cars almost 11 years (Definition of tuning to me relates to the ECU not just putting on parts). Since 2000, i have installed and tuned Haltech, ECUtek, AccessPORT, Hydra EMS, Pectel/Cosworth, little bit of Motec, Link, SCT, a dable in HP tuners and also Dimport. You should see the pile of dongles sitting here for all the software i have had over the years!

I am not trying to brag about what we have done, but proving to you that we know what we are doing and have been doing this for a very long time. We have been on the cutting edge of ECU reflashing since we started with WRX's years ago. And this is the first real cutting edge ECU reflash product to come out for the Mini. Actually its the first real cutting edge ECU reflash product to come out for any EURO period!

 

The AP is more than just a flash tool unlike the Dimsport mygenius tool.

 

Its on the list, but not 100% sure when this can happen.

Give us a few weeks after we launch the R56 and i think we can better judge that.

Lower price for something that does the same thing as others for sure is what we would do, but ours does sooooo much more.

We are not big drag racers here so i am not sure. Adding say 30HP and 50 ft-lbs should knock off about a second or more. Making the power our JCW does may knock off 1.5 seconds. As time passes these kinds of results are something we will look to provide.

 

i <3 ecu tuning glory

Well done on the launch control! hopefully flat foot shifting is possible at some point too now that would be nice... take that Mazdaspeed3! witht he kinda power you guys can pull out of this engine and turbo, i'm kinda upset MINI doesn't offer a 17x7.5 wheel and 225 section tires so we could get the most grip out of all that power :D

 

aftermarket

 

well yeah... but who likes payin extra for something that COULD come standard

 

How about the R55 Clubman S? What are your plans here? Surely this will come before the R53 since it is the closest thing to the R56.

 

Guys, I'm extremely enthused. I will be on board as soon as this thing is released. However, I have a 1 month old 2010 MCSa with <3,000 miles clearly a ton of time and mileage left on my warranty. If I flash my ecu then reflash it with the stock map to bring it in to the dealer for any issues, how transparent is this? Can they tell?

It really is unclear in all the other threads/posts although I'm left believing from various comments (about other tunes) that the dealer can tell. APR flashes Audis and VWs but the dealer is unable to tell.