Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Meatloaf and gravy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 5, 2010 | 05:50 AM
  #126  
JPMM's Avatar
JPMM
6th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,796
Likes: 11
From: East IA
Originally Posted by JIMINNI
So drove the car to work and stuff today, I'm not sure but it feels like the throttle response is better? Could this be possible by just changing the IC? Or maybe it's just that I spent a lot of money and I want it to feel better
I think the GP has better internal flow and thats what we feel
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:30 PM
  #127  
JIMINNI's Avatar
JIMINNI
Banned
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,862
Likes: 3
From: Fresno Ca.
Originally Posted by JIMINNI
Working on that now, looks like a thin sheet of metal using the existing screw's on the diverter will work Already have cut a piece and attached it.
So this is what I came up with. The 2" gap is now gone, have about a .25" gap left. I think that is fine and my scoop is not going to rub In the close up pic it looks like it sticks up, but it dosen't. I think it came out pretty good



 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:46 PM
  #128  
drsilvermini's Avatar
drsilvermini
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 505
Likes: 0
From: Harrisburg, PA
Edit: Should have read the post entirely
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:08 PM
  #129  
Dr Obnxs's Avatar
Dr Obnxs
Former Vendor
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,340
Likes: 5
From: Woodside, CA
JIMINI

yank that sucker (the IC) off for a few days, send it to Cradin for a thermal dispersant coating. Will turn it flat black and help with heat transfer. Not much, but it's a cost effective mod. www.cradin.com

Matt
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:42 AM
  #130  
newbs49's Avatar
newbs49
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,469
Likes: 0
From: North Tonawanda NY
Matt
Do you know how much of a difference the coating will make.
Cost? not on their site for intercooler, if you know
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:49 AM
  #131  
Dr Obnxs's Avatar
Dr Obnxs
Former Vendor
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,340
Likes: 5
From: Woodside, CA
The coating dropped IATs

about 3 C, or about a 1% increase in air density. Just give them a call. I did mine a few years ago so I don't know about pricing now. Then it was less than $75 including shipping.

Matt
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:50 AM
  #132  
-=gRaY rAvEn=-'s Avatar
-=gRaY rAvEn=-
Thread Starter
|
Moderator
iTrader: (43)
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,809
Likes: 70
From: Cape of Cod
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
yank that sucker (the IC) off for a few days, send it to Cradin for a thermal dispersant coating. Will turn it flat black and help with heat transfer. Not much, but it's a cost effective mod. www.cradin.com

Matt
Cradin Coatings web site is down right now.
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:52 AM
  #133  
newbs49's Avatar
newbs49
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,469
Likes: 0
From: North Tonawanda NY
Thanks Matt
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:59 AM
  #134  
-=gRaY rAvEn=-'s Avatar
-=gRaY rAvEn=-
Thread Starter
|
Moderator
iTrader: (43)
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,809
Likes: 70
From: Cape of Cod
Add a Diverter plate on right side ?

Super nice work JIMMINI - Professional job in every respect.

What about adding a diverter plate to right side to send the air from the right side of the scoop to the IC cover opening ?



May help to fill the void and direct air to the SC fins.

 

Last edited by -=gRaY rAvEn=-; Mar 12, 2010 at 07:11 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 08:30 AM
  #135  
JIMINNI's Avatar
JIMINNI
Banned
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,862
Likes: 3
From: Fresno Ca.
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
yank that sucker (the IC) off for a few days, send it to Cradin for a thermal dispersant coating. Will turn it flat black and help with heat transfer. Not much, but it's a cost effective mod. www.cradin.com

Matt
Originally Posted by newbs49
Matt
Do you know how much of a difference the coating will make.
Cost? not on their site for intercooler, if you know
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
about 3 C, or about a 1% increase in air density. Just give them a call. I did mine a few years ago so I don't know about pricing now. Then it was less than $75 including shipping.

Matt
Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
Cradin Coatings web site is down right now.
Just talked to Cradin. The standard Mini Cooper IC is $75, he said with all the different IC's sent to him he needs to see it in person or with a picture, with reference, to their e-mail, Info@Cradin.com ,
for exact costs. Thank's Matt Hmmm....wonder if they do it in red?.... Dang, Iv'e been hanging with Lynn to much...
 

Last edited by JIMINNI; Mar 12, 2010 at 08:38 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 08:35 AM
  #136  
JIMINNI's Avatar
JIMINNI
Banned
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,862
Likes: 3
From: Fresno Ca.
Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
Super nice work JIMMINI - Professional job in every respect.

What about adding a diverter plate to right side to send the air from the right side of the scoop to the IC cover opening ?



May help to fill the void and direct air to the SC fins.
Thanks I'm not sure a side diverter is needed? The foam seals it up very well so I think all the air has to go thru the coil? I'm not a expert though so.....what you think Matt, if the sides are sealed, will the pressure force everthing thru the coil?
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:17 AM
  #137  
Dr Obnxs's Avatar
Dr Obnxs
Former Vendor
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,340
Likes: 5
From: Woodside, CA
I don't know....

if there's a difference, it's probably very minor. But it would look cool, and you'd probably get laid by a better class of girl at the show and shines, so on that score, it's a very worth while mod!

Matt
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:52 PM
  #138  
Mini'mon's Avatar
Mini'mon
Former Vendor
iTrader: (16)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
if there's a difference, it's probably very minor. But it would look cool, and you'd probably get laid by a better class of girl at the show and shines, so on that score, it's a very worth while mod!

Matt
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2010 | 01:11 PM
  #139  
JumpingJackFlash's Avatar
JumpingJackFlash
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 4
From: Yorktown, VA
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
yank that sucker (the IC) off for a few days, send it to Cradin for a thermal dispersant coating. Will turn it flat black and help with heat transfer. Not much, but it's a cost effective mod. www.cradin.com

Matt
Hey, Matt. I'm going to give this a try with the old stock IC off my old '02 MCS. Will let you know when it's done.
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2010 | 07:26 AM
  #140  
-=gRaY rAvEn=-'s Avatar
-=gRaY rAvEn=-
Thread Starter
|
Moderator
iTrader: (43)
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,809
Likes: 70
From: Cape of Cod
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
if there's a difference, it's probably very minor. But it would look cool, and you'd probably get laid by a better class of girl at the show and shines, so on that score, it's a very worth while mod!

Matt
In theory, the directed air flow increaseed thru the coils should generate lower numbers and faster cooling from heat soak........especially if you are running a more aggressive scoop with larger opening.
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2010 | 12:40 PM
  #141  
JumpingJackFlash's Avatar
JumpingJackFlash
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 4
From: Yorktown, VA
Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
In theory, the directed air flow increaseed thru the coils should generate lower numbers and faster cooling from heat soak........especially if you are running a more aggressive scoop with larger opening.
Yeah, I read through that long 18-page thread on the five intercooler tests. On page 5, Banana Bart posted a picture of his welding a directional top to his IC. I'm also considering that mod down the road.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:02 AM
  #142  
JumpingJackFlash's Avatar
JumpingJackFlash
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 4
From: Yorktown, VA
Hey, Matt. I finally got the intercooler off my old '02 MCS coated. Should be installed by the end of the weekend. Thanks again for the recommendation.
 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:23 AM
  #143  
-=gRaY rAvEn=-'s Avatar
-=gRaY rAvEn=-
Thread Starter
|
Moderator
iTrader: (43)
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,809
Likes: 70
From: Cape of Cod
Ddm diverter added to gp ic

Just wanted to update on this mod.

IMO save your money on the stock IC cover. It covers up the last few rows of the intercooler ( bit counter productive ? ) and really doesn't do much if anything with the downward flow of air.

I originally approached Alta for a diverter cover, and they were not interested stating they felt there was not enough of a market base for this part to be manufactured. Then DDM looked into it and came up with one instead. I finally went to Waymotorks web site and purchased one few months back.

* Before, the best post intercooler temps ranged 25-30 degrees above ambient temps....the DDM intercooler diverted lowered those running temps to just 8-15 degrees IMO this is an awesome combination.

( *In both cases with a M7 Extreme bonnet scoop )

Only issue so far has been the 4 rubber washers for the hold down screws which appear to be weathered and in need of replacing some time soon.

I added some black powder coated mesh. If you get down to the air flow angle looking thru the scoop, you can see the raised notches/cutouts in the screen which seem to provide some friction for the air flow giving it a moment of pause before making the downward flow thru the intercooler. While I found it didn't make huge gains, it did dress up the IC which was getting the usual patina to it. And it didn't make it hotter in the process...What I did find is that running temps dropped another 3 degrees when it rains. All I can think is that it tends to give a place for water to sit longer aiding in the cooling process thru evaporation. I may at some point add the old home made diverter sprayer I made few years back and give it a go again and try to duplicate this manually.

(The CRYO2 also seen here is quick way to freshen up the IC after a heat soak from being parked after a drive. There is a micro switch on the accellerator which activates the CRYO2 at WOT and there is another push button for manual over ride operation and one button for show spray I added for the heck of it - fires out the pass side Ociari cowl vent .)

I give DDM an A+++ for taking on this project. Job well done for an affordable and fully functional piece of modding equipment.

 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2011 | 07:54 PM
  #144  
JumpingJackFlash's Avatar
JumpingJackFlash
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 4
From: Yorktown, VA
Thanks for the update. I finally broke down and bought the GP IC and DDM diverter just before MOTD 2011. I figure, combined with the M7 extreme scoop, it gives a great combination/bang/buck. The DoS IC is just too expensive to me. I also painted my GP IC with a can of Eastwood radiator paint, which has heat dissipation properties. You can read here for some data on how it helps: http://www.molalla.net/members/leeper/coatbar.htm.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 04:51 PM
  #145  
ggcadc's Avatar
ggcadc
4th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 307
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
Just wanted to update on this mod.

(The CRYO2 also seen here is quick way to freshen up the IC after a heat soak from being parked after a drive. There is a micro switch on the accellerator which activates the CRYO2 at WOT and there is another push button for manual over ride operation and one button for show spray I added for the heck of it - fires out the pass side Ociari cowl vent .)

what do you think of this system? cant find any threads on it... new thread???
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 09:23 PM
  #146  
banzairx7's Avatar
banzairx7
2nd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Methanol is a much better solution IMO. You get the same intake charge cooling with the added benefit of a much higher fuel octane. It's also way easier to fill a tank with methanol than a bottle with compressed CO2.

Originally Posted by ggcadc
what do you think of this system? cant find any threads on it... new thread???
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 09:40 PM
  #147  
ClintTheMiniOwner's Avatar
ClintTheMiniOwner
4th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 557
Likes: 0
From: Anacortes Washington
+1 on meth, ive been running successfully with aquamist for three years, Ive purchased 3 different intercoolers, after meth, you want recovery time and stock does great with that.
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 02:47 PM
  #148  
JPMM's Avatar
JPMM
6th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,796
Likes: 11
From: East IA
shameless plug for my nice GP IC

I have mine for sale in the market place
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Legates01
R60/R61 Stock Problems/Issues
4
Aug 24, 2017 06:13 PM
TheMysteriousX
MINI Parts for Sale
0
Jun 11, 2016 09:01 PM
TheMysteriousX
Chicago MINI Motoring Club
0
Jun 11, 2016 08:43 PM
JCW Driver
PDX MINI Club
6
Jun 6, 2007 05:25 PM
Motor On
Off-Topic :: Autos
35
Jan 15, 2007 04:24 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:20 AM.