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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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What shops around the LA area tune minis? I had a guy quote me, who claimed hes done over 500 minis, at $460. I dont think thats a fair price for what he called a simple tune, which wouldnt take more than an hour.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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I have one ball, 15% pulley, detroit tuned BPV, CAI, iridium plugs, and injectors to come.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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RMW (Jan) is in the LA area. His website isn't much to look at, but you can e-mail him or call him and let him know what it is you're looking to get out of your car and a tune.
www.revolutionmini.com
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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460 sounds fair...350 for the tune and then 110 for dyno time? That sounds about right.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gar23
What shops around the LA area tune minis? I had a guy quote me, who claimed hes done over 500 minis, at $460. I dont think thats a fair price for what he called a simple tune, which wouldnt take more than an hour.
The price is fair, but unless it is Jan you talked to, I highly doubt if he's tuned over 500 Minis.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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The price is fair, but unless it is Jan you talked to, I highly doubt if he's tuned over 500 Minis.
Yeah it was him i talked to. I dont know my cousin had his Acura RSX tuned there too and they only charged him $350. The tune took 6 hours for his car. I dont see why mine is much more expensive with less time too.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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460 sounds fair...350 for the tune and then 110 for dyno time? That sounds about right.
I see you had a tune too. How much did you gain? After my BPV install i feel like the power is in all the wrong places at the wrong times.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Hubie and Jay are in Lake Forest with ABF.. abfmotoring.com give them a call for a dyno tune. atleast get their price to compare with
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Yeah it was him i talked to. I dont know my cousin had his Acura RSX tuned there too and they only charged him $350. The tune took 6 hours for his car. I dont see why mine is much more expensive with less time too.
Tuning the MINI ECU is a very small market compared to Honda/Acura, and with the Siemens ECU it is quite difficult - most tuners use DIMsport software for tuning the MINI - and the software/hardware is VERY expensive.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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6 hours to tune a car........

Must have been a real mess.

And +1 on Blimey's post!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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6 hours to tune a car........

Must have been a real mess.

And +1 on Blimey's post!
He has a custom turbo with the KPro system.(JDM guys )

I can see why the price is that high. I guess ill just have to save up for the tune. thanks for the input guys!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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What are some people's gains from the RMW tune?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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probably from 15-30 hp and 10-25tq depending on how your car is running before.
This is why most will wait until they have done all the planned mods first. Then you will get the most from the tune and not have to do it again.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigshot
probably from 15-30 hp and 10-25tq depending on how your car is running before.
This is why most will wait until they have done all the planned mods first. Then you will get the most from the tune and not have to do it again.
As far as I know there is no real proof of such a statement. Anytime I read or hear that an RMW tuned car get's on another dyno besides the one that RMW is manipulating, their results are quite a bit lower and certainly more realistic. The only time I hear results like these are during that particular tune day under RMW control. In fact it was posted just recently when RMW was not on there home dyno and was not able to push the numbers to the consumers expectations, that RMW suggested to all that they should just take their numbers and raise them 8% to get what they all thought they were promised due to dyno error.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
As far as I know there is no real proof of such a statement. Anytime I read or hear that an RMW tuned car get's on another dyno besides the one that RMW is manipulating, their results are quite a bit lower and certainly more realistic. The only time I hear results like these are during that particular tune day under RMW control. In fact it was posted just recently when RMW was not on there home dyno and was not able to push the numbers to the consumers expectations, that RMW suggested to all that they should just take their numbers and raise them 8% to get what they all thought they were promised due to dyno error.
Not True. I did the RMW remote tune on ours on a local dynojet on a 110 degree day. Car started in the low 170's (JCW tune) and finished the day in the low 190's. Of note we started around 11am (not to hot) and finished about 3pm when it was at the hottest part of the day. Reason it took so long was I had to leave the dyno to get Internet Access each time for the uploads.
IIRC the mods were Pulley, JCW injectors, Header and Exhaust.
Left it as Uncorrected.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
As far as I know there is no real proof of such a statement. Anytime I read or hear that an RMW tuned car get's on another dyno besides the one that RMW is manipulating, their results are quite a bit lower and certainly more realistic. The only time I hear results like these are during that particular tune day under RMW control. In fact it was posted just recently when RMW was not on there home dyno and was not able to push the numbers to the consumers expectations, that RMW suggested to all that they should just take their numbers and raise them 8% to get what they all thought they were promised due to dyno error.
I have actually sat behind the wheel of very few of the cars we have dyno'd for a reason..... posts like this.......... As usual Greg takes someones post out of context. What was told to the people at the dyno was this.... if these cars were on our dyno you can add about 6-8% based on what some of the stock cars put down completely stock.

Greg has built himself up as the person who did the "ultimate Mini build" yet has never turned a race lap in anger.... yes Greg I know it must kill you that street cars have turned faster times than you ever will in your "creation".... I guess that's why its up for sale, as it never did anything on the track.

For someone trying to run a business like you Greg it would probably do you some good and get some credibility with your "racing" by going out and actually doing something like we have.

If you would like to compare our resume to yours we can:
RMW 1 National Championship
2nd Place at Nationals
Two 3rd place finishes at Nationals
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Gregs: Nothing...........

there you have it people....... you can listen to Greg...... he seems to have it all figured out
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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My apologies for the thread deviation gar23, hopefully our members will keep the respect guideline in mind and help provide you an accurate answer to your questions instead of participating in their personal squabbles.

Are you talking about the custom tunes, or are you looking for a simple ECU flash for common modifications? As there are markets for both within the community, the pre-formatted ones tend to be cheaper, but at the sacrifice of a few horsepower as they're not tuned to your specific MINI.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Wow $350 x 500 in 2 years = $175k

Mynes are in Cali as well but you'll be looking at a similar rate.
 
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How about this. I recived an infraction from Motor On because of my post here.

So, ... new guidlines? Dont bring up any non flattering post about RMW?
Really, just what would this be for?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
My apologies for the thread deviation gar23, hopefully our members will keep the respect guideline in mind and help provide you an accurate answer to your questions instead of participating in their personal squabbles.

Are you talking about the custom tunes, or are you looking for a simple ECU flash for common modifications? As there are markets for both within the community, the pre-formatted ones tend to be cheaper, but at the sacrifice of a few horsepower as they're not tuned to your specific MINI.
No worries it was very entertaining.
I just want my car to run a little smoother, it has the power in the wrong places. I don't mind having some more power out of it either. I've been told the canned tune is horrible so im not if i should re flash anything. Just like re-flashing a phone or a computer, it makes it run weird and malfunction. I'm just seeing if the custom tune will give me the Bang for my Buck. that is a lot of money
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
As far as I know there is no real proof of such a statement. Anytime I read or hear that an RMW tuned car get's on another dyno besides the one that RMW is manipulating, their results are quite a bit lower and certainly more realistic. The only time I hear results like these are during that particular tune day under RMW control. In fact it was posted just recently when RMW was not on there home dyno and was not able to push the numbers to the consumers expectations, that RMW suggested to all that they should just take their numbers and raise them 8% to get what they all thought they were promised due to dyno error.

You got an infraction for the above

Why should you get an infraction for a fact, in Texas Jan told everybody to add 14% to get them to what he expects on Churches, and that was on a dynapack as well in Texas.

It just the way it is, dont compare dyno numbers unless on the same day on the same dyno
 
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Originally Posted by onasled
How about this. I recived an infraction from Motor On because of my post here.

So, ... new guidlines? Dont bring up any non flattering post about RMW?
Really, just what would this be for?
You received an infraction for reporting RMW twice within 5 minutes for personally attacking you, when they were responding to your personal attacks on them. So no, not new guidelines just the same one you keep failing to follow
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So much for impartial treatment, thats why this place sucks...and I don't spend much time on NAM anymore
He was 1 of 3, he is just the only one complaining publicly about receiving his infraction. It all has to do with the ability to follow the guidelines, nothing to do with opinion.
 
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sorry for doing my part to take this off topic.
 

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Let's just throw this out their so everyone who isn't quite sure about how ridiculous some of the posts made by certain posters here are................

the JCW maps are done in the same way as our tunes are along with ANY updates from the factory for software changes....... in the eprom
Here is a pic of the eprom with modifications to a stock map with the factory JCW program put on it BY THE FACTORY so people can see just how ridiculous this saying of " a tune goes away" really is.... if this was the case then BMW couldn't even do it..... What you see in RED is the Factory MODIFIED JCW file it puts OVER the standard mapping in BLUE

just more poppycock (glad I got to finally use it here) being spread around the forums as internet myths by people WITH agendas

so without further ado.... and multiple BS posts... here in lies the proof straight from BMW themself Not some hearsay from someone who doesn't even have the tools to see this for themself.

 
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