Hi there, im new to the forum. I am not new to the modifying mcs world although. All im looking for is approx. 5 kw more (about 7hp)

thanks in advance

 

u can re-tune it... that would probably be your easiest and cheapest method.. some more ignition timing, run it a little leaner.. (depending how aggressive ur tuner went previously)

7hp is not alot.. and u will see that kind of variance with simple weather changes even...

hell even a Tune up (plugs wires filters etc) might give u that much HP if it has been awhile..

 

all that has been done more recently, tune was my last mod...well the weather is cool at the moment.. lol

 

Depending on where you live and how hot it gets... water/meth can get you that and more... kits can be had for a little or a lot, depending on how sophisticated you want to get and what your goals are...

 

I was under the impression water/meth robs u of power (it replaces air in the mix, therefore less oxygen=less power) in return providing better knock supression

u have to raise the boost to compensate..


have u considered another pulley? 17% for example (i don't know if it exists just saying)

 

I think BlimeyCabrio is referring to spraying water/ alcohol on the intercooler area to lower temps. As the temp climbs, efficiency wanes. Adding an intercooler diverter with sprayer and a larger hood scoop would increase cold air to the engine compartment and allow you to convert your rear windshield sprayer to the intercooler sprayer http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...r_air_diverter

Is your CAI really bringing in cold air or is it taking in air from the hot compartment? A larger scoop, a CAI box or getting air through holes in the rear of the intake area so that it is coming from the cowl opening would all help.

Also R53, you did not list anything about plugs. I am assuming that you are using colder racing plugs to maximize your 17% and tune.

A question for you R53, why 7 hp more? It looks like you "tweaked" about the max out with your 17% and other mods without doing a cam. Remember that mods for power are not necessarily cumulative; if you need 7 hp you probably need a mod that, by itself, would bring 15 or more hp and there are not any short of a cam. (even though, as stated 8 hp fluctuations die to weather, etc are commonplace). The suggestion from BC and me simply would make the current mods more efficient and may net you a few.

 

Nope - I'm talking about spraying water/meth in the intake tract, post IC, for cooling. Most beneficial in hot climates. If you're tuned for it, it can ADD power. See Maitland's track record thread...

 

My CAI is fully enclosed pulling in air from the grill and the crowl area, but i am going back to my standard airbox as i prefer it more and after testing it out on the dyno, i lost 5 NM and gained 0.7kw (not even 1hp) it also made a few dips in the graph

 

Ah, thanks for the clarification--my mind was locked on cooling...

 

i think going to a rmw cam would do the trick .

 

Yes i think a cam would be my next mod, but not now..

 

The easiest & cheapest way to gain a little is by removing the Forge IC and returning to stock. With the hood closed, the Forge covers a portion of the trim opening limiting cooling flow, and pressure drop through the Forge is greater than stock.

It's too bad you're looking for minimum power gain.

 

there you go... !! Cold air intake will allow a biy more power!! A water-meth system, will allow a bit more power ( 9-16 WHP) , and a Cam will add some more power. Cheapest?? CAI, Camshaft ( NS-1) , water-meth system. They are all in the $200-$300.00 USD range..
Post your location... there might be few MINI's there, that can help..yes??

Just me.............................

Thumper

 

Before i had the forge cooler fitted, i was also concerned about the airflow pathway would be half blocked, but after having it fitted and closed the hood. it wasn't even blocking the intake scoop a bit. In fact the air flow is directly ontop of it. Maybe the design is updated abit as i bought mine 2 weeks back.

cai makes no power.

 

how old is ur supercharger belt? better yet...which one are you running.

i see the cam as the best option since u seem to have cai already. you can get an N1/crower regrind for less than $350.

 

1+, I had a forge IC on my car breifly and K-huevo is spot on...

The best way to add power on the cheap at your stage of mods is a cam

I can't see you getting 5kw any other way....

 

Try a nitrostick camshaft, you will like it and WAY cheaper than the newman cam

 

+1 on the rmw cam
If you are in England you don't have to paay shipping foe newman/rmw cams.
retune after cam as well.

 

Or you can go direct to Newman Cams...and just ask for the Newman's Mini Cooper S (R53) cam, Im sure they'll help you out...

But I suggest getting the Crower/NS1 cam....waaaaay cheaper and shows loooooooaaaaads of power...definitely gives the Newman a run for its money

 

IF you are in the UK search out 1320Auto, they designed the cam and can install and TUNE , thus saving you a buck or two..yes?? Or like above buy it there and bring it back.. I think is 160.00 PS over there..

Just me........................

Thumper

 

congratulations guys on taking over yet another thread here on NAM Great to see things haven't changed in the past few weeks. I've been hanging out in another room where questions actually get answered and people are eager to help, not shoot each other down. Poor guy wanted to know how he could add only 7hp and this turns into yet another pissing match.

But that's just my $.02

Steve

 

Here's what the OP has...

And a Cam isn't in the cards anytime soon....
Lets keep this thread on Topic, if you want to shill your cams, go start a thread for it or wait a few days for this "new thread" that's due and hash it out there.

 

Here Here and well said

 

Thanks guys for screwing up another thread. Your rants (on both sides) make it a pain to read threads because you add pages of posts not addressing the original thread.

 

Ok apparently we missed this the first time
Lets use this thread to help a new member here.
Here's the topic
R53, what exactly is your "enclosed CAI"? A little modifying of what you've already got might get you part of the way to where you're looking to be.

Have you looked at the ALTA 19% pulley? Only need to swap out the outer half and that should pull a couple of HP too

And if you wait until the winter (assuming you're in N America) your dyno #s will change too