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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Blew my motor :(

Hi guys

I think my motor said good bye today.

I recently added 17% SC pulley, everything was OK for 2-3 weeks.

But when the motor was getting warm and I went to the high rpms, like 4-6k rpm, I always heard a very low cracking/rattling noise. I just thought it was some plastic thing rubbing into something.

But when I was cruising today, this sound ampilifed and got more loud, I could not determite where it came from.
I opnened the hood, and take alook, I saw that the airfilter had went of the hose, and there was one screw missing from the intercooler cover.

I thought it could be that this screw just went somewhere it was rattling/cranking to some metal. ( It was like some teeth´s on a gear where slipping ).

So I took a drive to my garage and when I was just on the driveway it died.
I tried to start again, I heard some belt squeesing noise and weird noise´s but then it stopped, and wont start again.

I hear the relay click, but no crank´s, like the motor is stuck.

What do you guy´s think it is, Do I have melted piston or something :( ?

It could be that it is not the screw that went out there, I noticed that the oil light went on sometimes, in hard turns on good speeds ?
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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I'll be optimistic. Almost sound like your belt or pulley itself came loose. Are you sure that's OK?
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Yeah I'm sure about that.

The motor is really stuck, I put it in gear and tried to push the car, it´s not a possability to do that.

I think my little "screw" is stuck in the supercharger, I think I will have to try to remove the SC belt and try to manually crank the motor.
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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"the oil light went on sometimes, in hard turns on good speeds"?

Sound like your problem may be more than a screw loose in the supercharger, I think you have indeed locked it up; new bearings, crankshaft and more may be in your immediate future.

Good luck, and let us know what you find out.

BTW, are there many MINI's in Iceland?

Edit: just looked up your location on Google maps, you live on a tiny island off the southern coast? google maps didn't even show any roads on there, just an airport! Please tell us about where you live!

Edit II: Google satelite shows the town and roads clearly, still, it's a very small island! You must have the only MINI in town!
 

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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Until you said the engine won't move, I thought it might be the supercharger. I recently saw the results of the oil leaking out of the SC (not uncommon or unlikely, apparently) and it was a mess. It was spotted by overheating engine, then lots of noise, then belts squeeling as they tried to turn a frozen SC.

Still, you may have to start pulling things off the front of your car to find out what's working, and what's not.
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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How much oil is in it right now?

YD
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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This thread could get interesting....And how long till everybody comes out of the wood works on NAM and starts to tell this guy how to fix the broken rotater splint on his car anyways? lol
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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Well I cannot look into it right away, I have time to do it after the weekend, so why not ask around and take some decisions what could be wrong and check on prices for parts in the meantime ?

Thanks anyway

MINIDave

I live in the country Iceland, its about 40k square miles and we have more than 300k people living here.
We have about 10 MINI Cooper S and maby 100 MINI´s overall ( One D, Cooper, Cooper S, Convertible)
This "town" I live in, is a small island outside of Iceland, that is part of Iceland btw, called Vestmannaeyjar, which is about 7 square miles but population is 4k.

Just take a few minutes and check out some pictures from Iceland, its beautiful here man;
http://images.google.is/images?q=Ice...N&hl=is&tab=wi
 

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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Gorgeous country you live in! Sorry to hear about your troubles. If you plan on doing a motor overhaul yourself a copy of the MINI TIS(Technical Info System) would come in very handy. I can send you the links to my copy just let me know.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:39 AM
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Thanks man!

Yeah that would be great, it´s hard to get here in Iceland.

I just have some AllData software with some information, but no digrams and such.
How big is it ?
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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here is my opinion.... When the oil light comes on, even on hard turns only, it usually means the oil level is very low. I dont know what happened to the screw but IMO more than likely its because of the oil level, and your engine seized up. When oil light comes on even for a breif moment, you should stop driving ASAP!!, even the car's manual says that, and your common sense should tell you the same thing.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by starionturbo
Well I cannot look into it right away, I have time to do it after the weekend, so why not ask around and take some decisions what could be wrong and check on prices for parts in the meantime ?

Thanks anyway

MINIDave

I live in the country Iceland, its about 40k square miles and we have more than 300k people living here.
We have about 10 MINI Cooper S and maby 100 MINI´s overall ( One D, Cooper, Cooper S, Convertible)
This "town" I live in, is a small island outside of Iceland, that is part of Iceland btw, called Vestmannaeyjar, which is about 7 square miles but population is 4k.

Just take a few minutes and check out some pictures from Iceland, its beautiful here man;
http://images.google.is/images?q=Ice...N&hl=is&tab=wi
I google mapped Iceland and the main island has what looks like a race track (main highway) around it hehehe
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Did you at any point see the temp guage rise. When we first got the shop car it was a high mileage car. We put a 17% pulley on and I taught a driver school in it. I noticed for long periods of throttle the temp guage would rise a bit. Not get hot just rise a bit. I parked it at that point. When I fired it up to drive it home it knocked and clattered like crazy. Spun a rod bearing. Our theory is when we popped the head gasket (probably due to high mileage unknown history + 17% pulley and track use) the coolant and oil mixed. Coolant in Oil + 100k miles wasn't a good thing for the bearings. When we tore it down it wasn't far from seizing. Just a thought. A not very optimistic thought but a thought.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Starionturbo,

I have been to Reykjiavik (sp?) twice, and I completely agree that Iceland is a very beautiful and cool place to be, I would love to visit your country again, and soon!

I did find the island you live on earlier, on google maps it didn't show any roads on the island, but when you go to Google satelite view you could clearly see the town and roads.

To get to the mainland, I assume you take a ferry - which town does it dock at on the mainland?

How does one make a living on a small island like yours? I saw the deep water port, what is it used for besides imports? Does you electricity come from the mainland too?

do any people live on Surtesy Island, a little bit south and west of your home?
 

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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Too bad you dont live closer, my friend is looking for an R53 that has been blown up. He has a spare engine that has lots of horsies
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Are you sure it wasnt your starion engine that blew?

I used to have 2 of them and the 2nd one was nothing but trouble. Most unreliable cars in the world.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fabbas01
here is my opinion.... When the oil light comes on, even on hard turns only, it usually means the oil level is very low. I dont know what happened to the screw but IMO more than likely its because of the oil level, and your engine seized up. When oil light comes on even for a breif moment, you should stop driving ASAP!!, even the car's manual says that, and your common sense should tell you the same thing.
Um, these aren't dry sump, so long, hard turns can starve the pickup and cause the light to flash.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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i listen to jay severen on the radio sometimes ; he has a place in iceland and cant say enough good things about your country . how are the taxes?
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Um, these aren't dry sump, so long, hard turns can starve the pickup and cause the light to flash.
ummmm, I know these cars are wet sump, i've never owned a car with a dry sump. I will tell you one thing, only time i have seen the oil light come on in a wet sump system was when the oil was too low. Yes i have taken hard turns and braked very hard, maybe i am blind.......
 
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Old May 22, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Thanks man!

Yeah that would be great, it´s hard to get here in Iceland.

I just have some AllData software with some information, but no digrams and such.
How big is it ?
PM sent
 
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Old May 22, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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ummmm, I know these cars are wet sump, i've never owned a car with a dry sump. I will tell you one thing, only time i have seen the oil light come on in a wet sump system was when the oil was too low. Yes i have taken hard turns and braked very hard, maybe i am blind.......
What is the purpose of a dry sump system?
 
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Old May 22, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Blew my motor :(

Originally Posted by Minut
What is the purpose of a dry sump system?
Normally space or 'packaging' issues.

As example Porsche and Harley Davidson use dry sump lubrication.

Hope this helps...
 
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Old May 22, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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I think it's more to make sure the engine doesn't lose oil pressure under the G forces these cars are able to produce in cornering or braking......but that probably wouldn't apply to Hardly Ablesons........

At high RPM and/or loads, losing oil pressure for even an instant can do major damage to the bearings. That's why I think his engine's locked up - he' spun a bearing due to oil pressure loss in a corner at "good speed"
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Have you drained the oil? May want to do that and see how bad it looks if one screw got sucked in to the supper charger then what ever it hit while spinning at speed surely got sucked into the engine and that may have caused massive amounts of damage the cyclder walls valves and pistons.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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IMO if my engine starts making noises i turn it off straight away and pull over, strip it down if need be to find the problem. Not keep it running and try to turn it over.
 
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