what kind of hp and tq numbers am i looking at if i do this kit, also wanting to add borla exhaust to finish it out. will the stock auto trans hold this power? and how hard is it to go from a stock autotrans to a nice aftermarket manual trans? what would the trans swap cost in parts? lots of questions, feedback much appreciated.

the kit:
• Cosworth Port-Matched Intake Manifold
• Cosworth Ported Head
• Schrick Performance Cam
• M7 Ported and Polished Supercharger
• M7 DFIC plus M7 Aerogel DFIC Heat Shield
• M7 16% Supercharger Technology Pulley
• M7 2% Crank Pulley
• M7 Cold Air Intake
• M7 400cc Fuel Injectors
• M7 Billet Oil Catch Can
• M7/Cosworth ECU Tuning Software Upload
• High Performance Spark Plugs
• M7 Aerogel EX Heat Shield

 

It would cost the same to push the current MINI off a cliff and buy a new used manual as it would to swap an auto to a manual. The body harness is different, you'd have to take the car apart to make the swap. Then you run into ECU programing issues unless you can find a very sympathetic dealer or go stand alone.

From where you are located you might want to go talk to Joel at Bavarian Hyper Sports, he has experience in making Mini's quicker.

 

welcome!!!

The stock tranny will hold up.
I'm not sure what numbers you would get with that setup..
I was talking to Jan from RMW and he was saying we could get 250 or so with the head, cam, injectors, and tuning etc etc.

Anyway welcome to the club!
I'm running an auto and I still have plenty of power. And i can eat a cheeseburger in traffic!!! haha

 

i'm actually pretty talented, i can eat a cheesburger while doing ANYTHING and you'll understand if you ever meet me, my best performance upgrade would be to get down to "race weight" myself. but we know thats not going to happen as easily as working on the car right? so looks like my plan is going to change and i'll buy myself a used r53 and get the manual right off the bat and upgrade the clutch if i have too and the wife will have to stick it out with this car, which i'm sure she won't mind doing at all. i was hopping to do most of the work myself on the car, not sure how easy everything is to get to as i have not had to work on it yet becaues i have only had it for 3 days, all of which i have had to go to work. the heads and cam i will have professionaly done, but certianly i can do some of the stuff myself, i mean thats half of the expierence right?

 

Hi, M7 is great to deal with, I have a bunch of their stuff. Concerning the Cosworth intake, ported head. That is kinda old. If you act quickly they are selling the 'Big Valve" Cosworth head right know for only $1699. There are not many left, as Cosworth is not making anymore of these, BTW I bought one Also M7 does not have any software anymore, they tune thru "VitessePro". BTW they also tunned my car Give them, M7, a call, or you can also talk to Steve at "Custom Mini Shop", (559) 320-0004, he has everything you want Also, don't worry about swapping your trany, the Auto should be fine.

 

I know you are trying to helpful, but why are you telling him to call a vendor that is not even on NAM?

 

Many local shops are not on NAM. Don't confuse large MINI-specific parts vendors NAM with local Euro-specific garages/shops. I've referred many people to local shops I've gone to for installation and consultation (sometimes even after buying items from NAM vendors.) At my own job I refer people elsewhere if it's in their best-interest. It makes more loyal trusting customers.

 

That's cool and all, but we really need to help out ANY and ALL the vendors on NAM that we can, times are tough

 

i won't be buying much for now, have to wait until i have the wife's new car, and seeing as we just bought this one a few days ago i don't think that will be until at least later this year. i'd like to go with a local houston shop and would like the price to stay as low as possible, chances are that i can do most of it on my own, so i will buy from whoever has the lowest price, be it a vendor, or someone i find through google or whatever.

 

Before you go off and start throwing money at your car I would suggest you come up with a plan of attack first. By that I mean you should know what you want to accomplish through your modding before you start spending, otherwise you risk spending money on something and then realizing later you either dont need or want it.

Also, be sure to do your homework. Look around on NAM a bit as a minimum, at best you may want to pick a book on forced induction tuning so you understand what the various mods are doing to the car and how they improve performance. Lastly, try not to be swayed by fanboys, their is more than one way to get to your goal.

 

totally agree with you on the fan boy thing.
as for knowing what is happening in the engine, have that one covered. have a mechanic as a dad, grew up with cars. looks like you have all visual or interior mods in your sig... NOT BASHING YOU, just wanted to know what, if any, mods you have done. how do you like your angel eyes? got pics of them, would be interesting to see them on a mini.

also this IS me doing my homework, like i said we just got the car a few days ago and i just realized TODAY that i LOVE driving it! i have always been a fan of corvettes and that was the original plan for me to get and mod. now i am thinking that it may not be practical and as fun as having a mini that can spank people, everyone knows that a z06 can spank most cars but the mini would be a surprise, especially if i take the s emblem off and the don't notice the hood. like i said this is me doing my homework, if you went to z06vette.com and looked me up you would see that i did my homework on the vette and could tell you SO many ways to mod it to get what you would desire out of it, now i'm going to do the same with the mini, you may even get tired of seeing me post.

i think my first step is going to be to go with the pulley, then a borla cat back and a CAI. and tune to hopefully get 200whp or so. all things i will likely keep with my final setup minus the tune of coarse

also i won't be "throwing money at the car" because i don't want any scratches.

if you were in houston today on hwy 59 and saw a hyper blue w/ white roof go flying by you that was me learning that this won't be my wifes car for long.

 

Hey, no bash felt here. I have strictly visual mods for 2 reasons. The first was because of the fact that my dealer has a very strict warranty policy and I didnt want to risk my warranty over something like a CAI. The second, and more recent reason is that for the time being I AutoX my car in G-stock which means I cant really do any mods. As much as I would like to maybe do a pulley the car has enough power for me and the prospect of running in street modified with 400hp+ Evo's isnt particular appealing from a competitive or financial stand point.

I am actually studying mechanical engineering right now and I am a member of my college's FSAE chapter, I've been tasked with designing the mounting points for our suspension... which is pretty easy to do given that it is just some sheet metal tabs.

As for the angel eyes, I will let the pictures do most of the talking, but I like them a lot. They add a nice bit of detail to the front end without looking "ricey", a bit expensive for what they are but worth it for me.

 

This forum is a good source of information most of the time, but there is also a lot of pie-in-the-sky advice handed out too. You’ll get more benefit from a glimpse of non-virtual reality, visit Joel at http://www.bavhypersports.com; gnatster provided two gems of guidance. You’re entitled to your choices, and my comment is not meant to diminish the value of your decision-making, but the first list has some underperforming fluff to be pared away.

There are unique challenges ahead in modifying an automatic, but the basics remain the same, attain improved performance by turning up the boost, and/or by improving volumetric efficiency (increasing displacement not withstanding). For increasing boost, adding a turbo to the mix is a great shortcut, and if boost isn’t dialed up much, you might get away with keeping OE pistons. The core components of a conventional approach to improving VE is a ported head and exhaust system. Do your research and don’t rush that choice, and in my opinion bolt-ons should compliment the head and not put on just because the parts are less expensive and easy to install (save the intake for last in other words).

 

Know where you're coming from............. I dropped 75lbs of unneeded weight from my MCS. It took me getting real sick to do it, but I can actually feel the difference. Quicker - both me and the car.

 

Actually the first list has some proven power making parts on it.

1. The Cosworth ported head is a very good non-big valve head.
2. The Schrick cam is still the benchmark in my opinion, though the
Neuman/RMW cam may provide a lower end grunt?
3. The pulleys both work.
4. Though M7 does not have software anymore, a Dyno tune is the next
best thing bang for the buck you can do for power after the pulleys.

The other stuff, well?

5. The ported Intake and Supercharger, if your looking to get every last bit
of power and you have the money, well go for it. I'm not saying they are the
best bang for the buck though. You would be better off saving your money
and buy a BV head or go Turbo as k-huevo suggested.
6. You will need bigger Injectors once you get close to the 200hp mark.

P.S. you will NOT get to 200 whp. with just a intake, cat-back and a pulley, ain't gonna happen.

 

Because believe it or not there is life off NAM.

The person listed their location in the greater Houston area. I don't exactly see them hopping in the car and taking to Steve at Custom MINI Shop for work so I mentioned someone local to the area that does quality work.

 

And definitely talk to as many folks as you can IN PERSON before dumping that kind of green to any vendor.

As a counter-point to the M7 fan, there are a few others that provide a much better "package" than what they offer.

 

So may I ask what? You have a problem with Cosworth stuff? And what in my post #15 you don't agree with?

 

What I was insinuating is that if he is looking to buy parts for his Mini he can order that stuff from anywhere in the country, they do shipping The OP already said he does most of his own work .

 

Good advice here....

 

no need to argue guys,

as for the plan right now what will happen is i'm going to go with intake, pulley, and exhaust because this is coming out of MY fun budget and going on the WIFE'S car. that way i can easily take them off and put them on my car when i get one, i was told that it would be a pain to switch over to a manual tranny, so looks like i'm getting a used mini for myself and putting MY parts on that car. the wife's will return to stock. as for the turbo, i understand that i will give the bigger power gain, but i have never really been a big turbo fan after i got over the ricer stage when i was a teenager they never appealed to me, i like the boost at the low end so i'll stick with a supercharger even if it means less power, as long as it comes in on the low end i'll be happy, oh yeah, and lag annoys me. (i do like the sound of a blow off valve though) now i did read that with a good tune, intake, pulley and injectors you could get to 200, and if i believe this was tuned by "jan" so i think that i'll be able to get close enough to it with the selected mods i have, i mean this IS going to be driven by my wife also so i have to take it easy as her expierence in cars includes NO performance driving ability.

 

Don't bother with an intake, save the money for something that matters.

To clarify, I suggested adding a turbo not removing the supercharger. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...whp-232tq.html

 

read all about your twincharged superturbo system, sounds like fun and a LOT of work. also seems way out of my price range, love the look of the fmic but not sure of the cost benefits for a non turbo setup, maybe someday when i have plenty of money to throw at the car. but seeing your setup gives me confidence in the houston shop. now i'm going to go read up on just what the hell is the stroker motor that everyone is referencing

 

You misunderstood; it’s not my turbo. I told you about the option because you said you wanted to “surprise” spank other cars.

 

yeah i see that now, anybody got info on the stroker 2.0? or are we STILL waiting on jan to release pricing info? i've grown tire of reading tonight as i have read like 30 pages of posts. sounds like a good thing from what i read tonight and maybe after i get my car i should just save for that mod before doing any other mods. the wife's car will NOT be getting a 2.0 but maybe mine can have it.



**edit***
afterthought: if i get REALLY rich and have nothing better to do maybe i can do a stroker AND the twincharged mod, wouldn't that be killer, then i'd only have to focus on getting it to stick to the ground. anyone heard of a rwd cooper s? as that would be fun too