So what should be the right acceleration perforance test common to all of us all over the world?

Should it be 30-130

30-90 in 3rd very much like a dyno pull 2000-7000

 

I think that 0-60mph or 0-100kph would be best, since you can't go 130mph on the street legally. (I assume your numbers are mph) Even so, 130kph (80mph) is still beyond the interstate speed limits.

 

Paul...in the US we are limited to at most 80mph by law and highways marked with that speed are only found in TX.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l..._United_States

You'll find vast areas that are limited to 70MPH tops.

This idea could be a good one but please do not create a chart with a top speed that will expose NAM members to possible legal issues.

 

Beside the obvious problems Gnatster points out, do we all care? I'm perfectly happy with what I have, drive my car next to other high performance cars every day and know exactly what it will do. Do I really care what some MINI's on the other side of the world are doing? No offense, but not really. Don't get me wrong, if my schedule clears in a few weeks and I have nothing else to do, I could take some measurements for fun, but it's not a priority, and frankly, not that important to me.

 

I've taken the liberty of changing the Subject to a Discussion. Once a plan is agreed upon a new thread with only data will be created.

 

Good point Gnaster, obviously the safest place to do this is on a track or private road.

We have the same speed limit here thats why the 30-70 3rd gear one is agood one, unfortunatley the later boxes cant get to 70 in 2nd unless there rev limiter is raised.

30-130

http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_30...entid=20080308


60-130

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...andings-4.html

 

This is just a question. How does the difference in gearing between <05 and the >=05 affect this? Or is the gearing difference only certain gears?

 

You're quite right big howe, but some of us are data petolheads so numbers are important, plus it can spur you on to find performance you didn't know you had or in some cases had lost.

It should be treated as a bit of fun, but some may take it more seriously and organise days like the MLR did.

I think having the weights recorded like they did on the day would help in cases like yours where you might have the heavist car out there in NAM world.

 

there is roughly 200rpm difference at 60mph in 4th gear

If we ever did a table, gearbox year would be valuable information.

 

...as would tire diameter.

 

how about 25-60 in third? as my car wont do 70 in third i dont like that one much......

 

any test would need to include year and tire size.

And it would need to be done w/o shifting to be as accurate as possible.

 

What about the grade of the road? This like many other tests done at different times and places seems to have a lot of variables too.

 

Won't do 70 in 3rd?

All this is going to do is start another argument about how times are being recorded, if the road is down-hill, up-hill, temperature, altitude, humidity, etc etc. There is never going to be a definitive test of cars in different places at different times.

Edit: Right on, batrugger.

 

I agree, there will always be a slight difference in some factor and no two data records will be directly comparable, any comparison would have to take into account some difference, making it, to some degree, an estimation. but you can still get a really close comparison. if the same person takes their car w/ the same mods to the same place on a different day, the temps, wind, humidity, and anything else may be different.. it would be cool to see the changes in performance, just from the difference in weather

 

You all make good points but I still think it'll be closer as a % terms than Gnatster dyno weekend.

It would be better also that if you found an airfield / road course that could let you do it like the MLR register do it over here.

20 mini's togeather 1 x performance box = loads of fun

 

why not just 30-90 as fast as you can? Hmm, or 50-90 in 3rd...

 

Better yet a second gear pull 35-65... third gear pull would take too long and gearing of the older cars will be severely at a disadvantage...

 

30-90 is more like a dyno run 2k-7k, with a performance box and knowing exactly what mph your car is doing at 2k and 7k you can check what the ET is, as you change things you can re check and see if you have improved.

The only problem is it takes you past the 70 mph speed limit

 

its a pitty they wont let us borrow millbrook for the day

 

If you could get 20 cars together in the same place for testing in the same conditions, I'd be WAY more interested in what my car does against the Subies, Evos, Vettes and such. 19 other MINI's, not so much.

 

Pretty much said what I was wondering. There is no point of doing this. Most of know what these cars are capeable of with each and certain part. I also would love to play with diffrent cars vs against another Mini.

 

How good am i to my Texas Mini bros ?

http://www.lonestarmotorsportspark.c...page.php?id=65

 

Texas is the place to be this the Texas mile event, so you could run your performance box at the same time.

http://texasmile.net/index.php?optio...d=15&Itemid=30



http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=PUyf3g...eature=related

but then again he does run this in the 1/4

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=TJBRZe...eature=related

 

unfortunately there's one problem with the 1st link
"Who can compete in 60-130 events?
Any car or driver can complete as long as they have a car that is at least a mid to low 12 second 1/4 mile car. Cars running slower than this will not be able to get to 130 mph before its time to slow down on the track. "

with the Texas mile it looks like they only check your top speed, not your acceleration