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Old May 24, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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RMW cam on MCSa

Any you MCSA dudes/dudettes running aftermarket cam on your car(RMW?)
I'm thinking of how to spend George's funny money(ya know the stimulus package)I'm gonna stimulate myself with mods!
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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....ok......Cam of any sort,ultrik....generic brand X...Cam..... on automatic....anyone........Bueller.....Bueller???? ?
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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....ok......Cam of any sort,ultrik....generic brand X...Cam..... on automatic....anyone........Bueller.....Bueller???? ?
Shouldn't matter whether it's auto or manual, the engine is the same...
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Ask Jan and see if he recommends it

He won't steer you wrong. I would do it.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
Shouldn't matter whether it's auto or manual, the engine is the same...
I seem to have seen evidence of at least one car that is an automatic,running aftermarket,cam,head,pistons,but not putting up significantly higher torque or horsepower than my stock,head,cam........sooo! ergo the question custom tailored for MCSA owners...uhkay..
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Rusty would know, but I think Jan might have a head on an auto, you can ask what the results were.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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He won't steer you wrong. I would do it.
I know! I am trying to lure Jan in and make me warm and fuzzy!(he's prolly to bizzee)...cuz I have some money burning a hole in my mod pocket.If I get the word that this is a good move...I'm driving to MiniCorsa,tout suite for Danny to put it on!
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Rusty would know, but I think Jan might have a head on an auto, you can ask what the results were.
I don't know .

I haven't heard anything about Jan putting a cam on a MCSa, but if he did I can't imagine why he'd call and tell me.

It's entirely possible that the MCSa will put down lower numbers than the 6-sp, it has more drivetrain loss.

I think the issue with the MCSa was with tuning it. It was difficult to dyno or something.

Best to let Jan chime in if you heard of some specific MCSa issue. I don't follow them that closely.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I don't know .

I haven't heard anything about Jan putting a cam on a MCSa, but if he did I can't imagine why he'd call and tell me.

It's entirely possible that the MCSa will put down lower numbers than the 6-sp, it has more drivetrain loss.

I think the issue with the MCSa was with tuning it. It was difficult to dyno or something.

Best to let Jan chime in if you heard of some specific MCSa issue. I don't follow them that closely.
You could be right. I didn't hear anything from Jan, I thought one of the auto owners was on here spouting something about having a head. Could be me and the meds again. Me talk crazy sometimes

P.S. There's always being the first, even with the tune issue, the head stands on it's own merits.
 

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Old May 25, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I don't know .

I haven't heard anything about Jan putting a cam on a MCSa, but if he did I can't imagine why he'd call and tell me.

It's entirely possible that the MCSa will put down lower numbers than the 6-sp, it has more drivetrain loss.

I think the issue with the MCSa was with tuning it. It was difficult to dyno or something.

Best to let Jan chime in if you heard of some specific MCSa issue. I don't follow them that closely.
It is difficult to dyno,you are right!
I saw Jan tune my car,this is how I know.I also know people like "checkers"on NAM have had the same experience.I do believe that if anyone can solve the tuning probs that the auto's have -Jan is the man.I am really close to pulling the trigger on RMW head/cam/header.All this being said I have a car that pulled 183 whp/173tq (with a bad plug and clogged intake filter!)NOW I WANT MORE.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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I wonder how the Auto will react to the increased duration of the cam. Also the big Exhaust ports may decrease velocity which may also effect the auto ? I dunno just a thought. The Auto is a different beast. I would think until someone finds away to allow for manual RPM shifts in any gear that you will not get the full bennefits.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Platfrom you know I have the RMW cam in my car along with everything else. I'm supposed to take my car to Jan as soon as he gets his new shop. So he can play with it and try to find out how the ecu works on the automatics. I'll let you know if and when we find something. My numbers are low, but thats because they can't get the car to stay in one gear long enough. It wants to up shift at around 65k. on the dyno. At that rpm it get about 196whp and 175tq, but we think if he can reset the limiter to 7k or 72k it should break 200 whp easy. How are you doing, any track time lately?
 

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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Platfrom you know I have the RMW cam in my car along with everything else. I'm supposed to take my car to Jan as soon as he gets his new shop. So he can play with it and try to find out how the ecu works on the automatics. I'll let you know if and when we find something. My numbers are low, but thats because they can't get the car to stay in one gear long enough. It wants to up shift at around 65k. on the dyno. At that rpm it get about 196whp and 175tq, but we think if he can reset the limiter to 7k or 72k it should break 200 whp easy. How are you doing, any track time lately?
Hey Checkers,
I'm cool.- nothing recently,gonna try to hop on at Laguna or Infineon soon though.Jan's new shop is exciting.Keep me posted about your ride.I'm close to stepin up to a head/cam too.
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Let me know when your going to be at Laguna or Infineon. I live in the area so maybe we can meet up.
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Let me know when your going to be at Laguna or Infineon. I live in the area so maybe we can meet up.
Its a deal
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Any new / revised thoughts / experience on this topic? I'm planning to have Jan tune my MCSCa in July... and considering the RMW cam. I don't care what HP my car puts down... and I know the auto shifts at about 6750, so you can't get the big HP you can get with high RPMs ... My thing is mid-range torque for the street... I want all I can get without buying a head... thoughts?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Go with a smaller pulley - 17 or 19% since you won't use the upper rpms and want the torque down low. Get the cam - it is also a huge boost in mid-range torque. If you've got the bucks, the RMW street header is also a heck of a performer as shown at the recent tune weekend here in WA.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Yeah... that's what I was thinking - cam + 17% pulley for the street... but would love confirmation that Jan's had good success with that combo on the automatic (and yeah, I know I can call Jan )
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Sounds like the RMW header+cam combo is the way to go after seeing what they can do on the dyno this weekend

Of course you will need to dial em in w/ a tune!!!
 

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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Any new / revised thoughts / experience on this topic? I'm planning to have Jan tune my MCSCa in July... and considering the RMW cam. I don't care what HP my car puts down... and I know the auto shifts at about 6750, so you can't get the big HP you can get with high RPMs ... My thing is mid-range torque for the street... I want all I can get without buying a head... thoughts?
-well I can strongly endorse Jan's tune to beef up torque.He brought me to 173 wtq with :380's.15%,milltek catback/obx header/alta cai.-it's a lane changing marauder!This is on par with lions share of standard tranys!I'll do cam soon though!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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I PM'd Jan and he confirmed that he believes the cam + auto is a good thing...
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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I've got all his stuff and it works just fine. I believe that one of these days Jan will decode the ECU on the automatics and raise the limiter and get bigger HP numbers. We have been talking for some time about this. Hopefully soon.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
I PM'd Jan and he confirmed that he believes the cam + auto is a good thing...
...post your results after install/tune.good luck
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by checkers
I've got all his stuff and it works just fine. I believe that one of these days Jan will decode the ECU on the automatics and raise the limiter and get bigger HP numbers. We have been talking for some time about this. Hopefully soon.
Keep us posted on this.

I also have one of Jan's tunes on my auto.
 
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