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Old May 23, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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M7 Super-AGS install

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Old May 23, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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very nice let us know more about the performance when you floor it some more.
 
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Very happy with the results, will not bother to mention the gains I am getting by monitoring the output of the computers.
gains? mpg? power? IAT?
 
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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did you take any pictures of it before you installed it ? & what's the inside look like ?
I'd also like to see some pictures of the hoodscoop from a ways back, I'm assuming that's the Vortex ?
It looks good
 
Old May 24, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Looks good Morbius

Definitely a huge filter area! Nice fit and finish as well. I'm curious as to why you decided to go with this as opposed to others out there.

What do you plan to do with the scoop re. color?

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Boost figures are higher. In replicating a couple little test, before the ags, I was doing 4.6 PSI boost. With the ags installed, now on those same little tests, I am doing almost 7 PSI boost.



Really!?
 
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This is my top choice so far for intakes. Thanx for the review . Nice to hear that the noise doesn't increase very much.
 
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Really!?
Not claiming facts. They where very short test run and yes I pulling much more air without restrictions and increase in boost would be a given. The gauges are showing that. More testing is needed, but I am happy with what I seeing so far !

Wait when I pull that turbo and do some of my special work to it ! The new CAI will be worth the money and highly needed.
 
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Thanks for your insight and experience.
Like most, I'm planning on an aftermarket intake and exhaust so I'm always curious as to why people go with what they go with. My only other experience was with a '94 GTI.
 
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Originally Posted by morbius
Not claiming facts. They where very short test run and yes I pulling much more air without restrictions and increase in boost would be a given. The gauges are showing that. More testing is needed, but I am happy with what I seeing so far !

Wait when I pull that turbo and do some of my special work to it ! The new CAI will be worth the money and highly needed.
I think he said REALLY? because you should be pushing much more boost than that completely stock.
 
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Sorry mis-understood. Yes, I pushing much more boost compared to stock and much easier. I have not even tried pushing it yet, raining here so been taking it real easy.
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Boost figures are higher. In replicating a couple little test, before the ags, I was doing 4.6 PSI boost. With the ags installed, now on those same little tests, I am doing almost 7 PSI boost.
7 lbs of boost is only half of what you should be pushing stock if you have an R56.
 
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7 lbs of boost is only half of what you should be pushing stock if you have an R56.
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Sorry mis-understood. Yes, I pushing much more boost compared to stock and much easier. I have not even tried pushing it yet, raining here so been taking it real easy.
Based on my testing we saw about 11.7 PSI of boost with sport mode and DSC on. With DSC off interestingly enough we saw 13.4 PSI.
 
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
Based on my testing we saw about 11.7 PSI of boost with sport mode and DSC on. With DSC off interestingly enough we saw 13.4 PSI.
Great, that is nice. I was not testing that way. My test around the area and taking the kids to school and pickup where I have prior numbers ......
 

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Great, that is nice. I was not testing that way. My test around the area and taking the kids to school and pickup where I have prior numbers ......
How does one reliably test boost at part throttle? The extra boost could easily have been to a shallower angle of the long skinny pedal...nothing to do with potential gains from a mod
 
Old May 24, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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How does one reliably test boost at part throttle? The extra boost could easily have been to a shallower angle of the long skinny pedal...nothing to do with potential gains from a mod

honestly.... I could care less if it made 40psi of boost.... in the end... what actual HP did it make to the car?

I'm still trying to figure out how tabs welded inside the box at the wrong angles to divert airflow would do anything to help but hey.... fluid dynamics sounds great. Maybe someone will post some amazing dyno results to quiet the onlookers..... I'm getting full of popcorn
 
Old May 24, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Ok, I am done. You all win. Cheers.
 
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Ok, I am done. You all win. Cheers.

no need to run off, people are just looking for hard data on the dyno or track

there has been so much butt dyno error to throw out any data based on "feeling"
 
Old May 24, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Great, that is nice. I was not testing that way. My test around the area and taking the kids to school and pickup where I have prior numbers ......
I was just saying... 14 psi is a bit unrealistic. These cars push between 11 and 12 PSI of boost depending on temperature, and slightly more with the DSC off.

I'm with PGT on this one though, how do you measure boost at part throttle? There's no way to compare part throttle boost unless you can actually give raw numbers for the % throttle you were using.

Saying "I pushed the pedal down a bit and got 7 psi, and I did it again after the AGS and got 9" is about as unscientific as it gets...
 



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