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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Way to sh*t on another thread!
I learned it by watching you.
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Grow a set...
They are quite grown, and rather large.
My screen name is PARTSMAN, and yours is rustyboy. Do you need a dyno plot to see the difference?
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PARTSMAN
I learned it by watching you.

They are quite grown, and rather large.
My screen name is PARTSMAN, and yours is rustyboy. Do you need a dyno plot to see the difference?
That'd help. Go ahead and e-mail it to me.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PARTSMAN
The thread turned to this because it is a non-RMW dyno tune thread. Longboard and rusty need to crap it up and take it off-topic because the dyno tune was not done by their master, but instead by a legitimate, Dimsport approved tuner.
Wow talk about starting it. I thought this whole authorized Dimsport thing got sorted out a long time ago. Talk about taking a thread off topic
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Holy crap Frackman!
You weren't kidding about this thing getting sidetracked were you. Why dont the trolls start their own threads, whats with the hijack?

Anyway, I cant wait to feel the difference in your car with the new tune, when are we going to trade for the day (or week ) so Jill can see if she likes the R56?
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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One of the main things I wish I had prior to my tune is an a/f meter. As much as I'm laughing over everyone's name calling, I'd like to get my thread back on track. Pre-tune with the kind of mods I have, what kind of air-fuel readings are typical? Also, other than the Innovate a/f gauge what are people running?
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fracky
One of the main things I wish I had prior to my tune is an a/f meter. As much as I'm laughing over everyone's name calling, I'd like to get my thread back on track. Pre-tune with the kind of mods I have, what kind of air-fuel readings are typical? Also, other than the Innovate a/f gauge what are people running?
I run Innovate, works great. Looks good too, and the gauge is easy to mount if you don't have a gauge cup.

I'd check your AF's somewhere else (They look a bit lean even pretune, unless the lower dyno run isn't a baseline), just to be sure that their gauge is accurate.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I run Innovate, works great. Looks good too, and the gauge is easy to mount if you don't have a gauge cup.

I'd check your AF's somewhere else (They look a bit lean even pretune, unless the lower dyno run isn't a baseline), just to be sure that their gauge is accurate.
where did you mount the gauge? I have the Promini/autometer for NAV cars & I'd like to stack a/f on top of the gauge cups. I'll find a dyno so I can get some accurate readings in the interim.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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LM1 based?
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fracky
where did you mount the gauge? I have the Promini/autometer for NAV cars & I'd like to stack a/f on top of the gauge cups. I'll find a dyno so I can get some accurate readings in the interim.
I have mine mounted to the left of my Navi screen (Center speedo) with velcro. It's a small gauge (Not very deep) and the back is flat so it's rather easy to mount it wherever you want.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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LM1 based?
No, XD-16 .
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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nice...I put a similar PLX system in mach v's r56. flat gauges are nice
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Get the Innovate. It's great and simple to install. You can change the look to match your interior which is very cool.

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Originally Posted by Fracky
where did you mount the gauge? I have the Promini/autometer for NAV cars & I'd like to stack a/f on top of the gauge cups. I'll find a dyno so I can get some accurate readings in the interim.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Get the Innovate. It's great and simple to install. You can change the look to match your interior which is very cool.

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PS: Any pics of her car? I really like that car.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
I have heard these canyon tales about Randy many times. I like canyon driving but there is a limit that most drivers aren't willing to cross. You never know whats around that next corner even if you went through it 10 min earlier.

What you need to remember is that pushing it in a canyon faster then the guy in the EVO is more about who's willing to take the risk. Doesn't matter the Hp of the car or the skill of the driver in most cases.

What I don't get is why he drives like that in the canyons every weekend but never shows up at any of the local track days to punk the other Mini track rats?

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Well this thread should be up for the biggest high jack of the year award. First off it is nice to see that improved numbers on what is now a very conservative dyno translates to improved driving performance and enjoyment. At the end of the day that is what this is all about . As for the canyon verses track issues there is a place for both and safety is paramount in each situation.
Why I drive the canyons is two fold . For one I have been enjoying driving on those roads since 1978 in my 1966 cooper S . The roads haven't changed much but the players sure have. You either respect the roads or you do not last its that simple . There is a core group of drivers that will let you know when you are breaking the rules of common sence whether it is crossing the double yellow or just being simply unsafe . A " discussion " is usually the first and only warning necessary but for those that do not " get it " it other measures are employed. There have been instances where we have crossed over during a photo of video shoot but always with a radio up ahead giving us the all clear for that particular shot.
My second reason is that most of our products are real world environment items and need to be tested as such. With some of our rougher roads you could not find a better test for suspension components , drive line products and more recently our shifter system. These are not 10 tenths types of testing but real world enthusiastic type, safe but aggressive. The track is of course another good test bed but in some ways it can be deceiving on its own. Take for instance the Leda coil over shocks we used to sell. Great track system but can't last 10k miles in our canyons. Ours on the other hand are holding up very well on both track and the real world. Had we not tested in both areas we would not known if their reliability issues.
Longboard you ask why I don't go to the track and I think you may be misinformed. I have been taking my Mini to the track since 02 and have been to Big Willow , Streets of Willow , Buttonwillow and California Speedway. Some of these occasions have been documented in Mc2 magazine as well as Eurotuner. If you want a complete list you might as well add Lime Rock Park, Summit Point , Laconia and the Nurburgring. Because you or your friends have not seen me in your limited visits does not mean I have not been there. You can even ask Jan and Danny we were all at the Streets of Willow last fall together . Well Jan was watching and Danny was driving in between repairs but they were there. As for the present I still anticipate track events but the Mini has 66,000 very hard miles on it now and I am sort of pacing it to be honest. Being a heavy mini due to its former show car life , over 2,900 lbs, won't let me set any records by a long shot but the deltas between mods are what counts.
As my name was brought into this discussion I hope this clears up some confusion and misinformation and now we can get back on track.

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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
First off it is nice to see that improved numbers on what is now a very conservative dyno translates to improved driving performance and enjoyment. At the end of the day that is what this is all about .
As my name was brought into this discussion I hope this clears up some confusion and misinformation and now we can get back on track.

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Well said Plus all the stuff in between .
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PARTSMAN
The thread turned to this because it is a non-RMW dyno tune thread. Longboard and rusty need to crap it up and take it off-topic because the dyno tune was not done by their master, but instead by a legitimate, Dimsport approved tuner.
LOL at that.

Rusty was one of the first to respond and congratulated him on his numbers.

Guess its time for the popcorn....again.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Well this thread should be up for the biggest high jack of the year award. First off it is nice to see that improved numbers on what is now a very conservative dyno translates to improved driving performance and enjoyment. At the end of the day that is what this is all about . As for the canyon verses track issues there is a place for both and safety is paramount in each situation.
Why I drive the canyons is two fold . For one I have been enjoying driving on those roads since 1978 in my 1966 cooper S . The roads haven't changed much but the players sure have. You either respect the roads or you do not last its that simple . There is a core group of drivers that will let you know when you are breaking the rules of common sence whether it is crossing the double yellow or just being simply unsafe . A " discussion " is usually the first and only warning necessary but for those that do not " get it " it other measures are employed. There have been instances where we have crossed over during a photo of video shoot but always with a radio up ahead giving us the all clear for that particular shot.
My second reason is that most of our products are real world environment items and need to be tested as such. With some of our rougher roads you could not find a better test for suspension components , drive line products and more recently our shifter system. These are not 10 tenths types of testing but real world enthusiastic type, safe but aggressive. The track is of course another good test bed but in some ways it can be deceiving on its own. Take for instance the Leda coil over shocks we used to sell. Great track system but can't last 10k miles in our canyons. Ours on the other hand are holding up very well on both track and the real world. Had we not tested in both areas we would not known if their reliability issues.
Longboard you ask why I don't go to the track and I think you may be misinformed. I have been taking my Mini to the track since 02 and have been to Big Willow , Streets of Willow , Buttonwillow and California Speedway. Some of these occasions have been documented in Mc2 magazine as well as Eurotuner. If you want a complete list you might as well add Lime Rock Park, Summit Point , Laconia and the Nurburgring. Because you or your friends have not seen me in your limited visits does not mean I have not been there. You can even ask Jan and Danny we were all at the Streets of Willow last fall together . Well Jan was watching and Danny was driving in between repairs but they were there. As for the present I still anticipate track events but the Mini has 66,000 very hard miles on it now and I am sort of pacing it to be honest. Being a heavy mini due to its former show car life , over 2,900 lbs, won't let me set any records by a long shot but the deltas between mods are what counts.
As my name was brought into this discussion I hope this clears up some confusion and misinformation and now we can get back on track.

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Limited visits? We've been to every single track event at Willow now for almost a year?

You/Peter were there once...
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Cheese Whiz...not another thread going to seed.....

Come on guys, keep it in your pants!!!

Want to debate canyons runs create a new thread. This one is on Fracky's dyno tune and WILL continue on that. ANYTHING ELSE WILL BE REMOVED from this point on.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Well this thread should be up for the biggest high jack of the year award.
actually, it was on topic....as the OP mentioned canyons and others chimed in. we can't pick and choose which parts of our posts people respond to though I agree it's taken over the thread which was about a dyno day.

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The roads haven't changed much but the players sure have.
no joke. one of the suby guys on my forum was carjacked at gunpoint in the canyons awhile back. super nice guy....an olympian too.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Ok, since that last one was being posted about the same time the line in the sand is now drawn.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Thanks for the line in the sand Gnatster. With the kind of engine mods I'd listed what kind of a/f ratios are typical. As I'd noted previously there was an equipment issue with the reader, so I'm curious what's normal.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fracky
Thanks for the line in the sand Gnatster. With the kind of engine mods I'd listed what kind of a/f ratios are typical. As I'd noted previously there was an equipment issue with the reader, so I'm curious what's normal.
Safe would be 11.5-11.8. Uber safe would be 10.8-11.2. Anything above 12 is getting too lean for me.

These motors like it rich (They run in the mid 10's factory).
 
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This thread stinks You all know it too.
 
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This thread stinks You all know it too.


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