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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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I just wanted to see what other peoples views are on using a MSD box with our cars and if there is any gains from it or will it not do anything.
 
Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Unless you have some reason to believe you're not getting complete combustion with the stock ignition, there's nothing to be gained from any kind of multi-spark ignition box.

Now, if you're running at high engine speeds for extended periods of time, *and* have modifications that greatly increase your cylinder pressure (nitrous, insane amounts of boost, etcetera), then a multi-spark system might make a difference.

Remember - it only takes one spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture, and once it's ignited, additional sparks do *nothing* to improve combustion further. MS ignitions are really meant for engines where a single spark might not be enough to reliably ignite the mixture.
 
Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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well said, ty
 
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
Unless you have some reason to believe you're not getting complete combustion with the stock ignition, there's nothing to be gained from any kind of multi-spark ignition box.

Now, if you're running at high engine speeds for extended periods of time, *and* have modifications that greatly increase your cylinder pressure (nitrous, insane amounts of boost, etcetera), then a multi-spark system might make a difference.

Remember - it only takes one spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture, and once it's ignited, additional sparks do *nothing* to improve combustion further. MS ignitions are really meant for engines where a single spark might not be enough to reliably ignite the mixture.
Not trying to start a debate but I found many flaws in your statement. having read up on how MS works I see that nothing in what you said is correct.
 
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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This has all been covered in other threads. This is old news and is dug up for no good reason. lets leave sleeping dogs lie please.
 
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AFastMini
Not trying to start a debate but I found many flaws in your statement. having read up on how MS works I see that nothing in what you said is correct.
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This has all been covered in other threads. This is old news and is dug up for no good reason. lets leave sleeping dogs lie please.
I think his post was curious ("not trying to start a debate", while at the same time claiming that I'm 100% wrong, without giving any specifics), but I don't think it's offensive or inflammatory, so I'd like to respond as long as you don't object and the conversation stays civil.

AFastMINI, perhaps you could reference some of the articles/papers that led your to your conclusion, or list specific claims from my post that you have a problem with (unless of course, you seriously believe that *nothing* I said was correct).
 
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
I think his post was curious ("not trying to start a debate", while at the same time claiming that I'm 100% wrong, without giving any specifics), but I don't think it's offensive or inflammatory, so I'd like to respond as long as you don't object and the conversation stays civil.

AFastMINI, perhaps you could reference some of the articles/papers that led your to your conclusion, or list specific claims from my post that you have a problem with (unless of course, you seriously believe that *nothing* I said was correct).
AFastMINI was someone that has been banned before under another name, you'll not be getting a reply and since this thread was obviously dug from the dead to possibly create more controversy its now closed.
 
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