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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Dimsport tunning

I've been searching the forum for threads about getting a custom tune for my car and from what I've seen Dimsport is the way to go. However is it possible to get ahold of the Dimsport stuff to do a tune on my own?
I see that there are a couple of places that can do it in the US, like RMW and LDG but do I even have the option of doing it on my own. If so does anyone know of the costs involved, like possibly having to be set up as a dealer for Dimsport, etc?

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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Did you try?
http://web.dimsport.com/site/?DS=&lang=en
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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The written in Italian and I cant read it
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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Click the hybrid Union Jack/American Flag in the top right corner of the page, that translates it into English.
 
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I'm sure you can buy it and do it on your own, but it's cheaper to have an expert do it. The software is around $8k if I remember right.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Jan charges $350.00 to tune a car I believe. Like PGT says the software license is about $8K or more.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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OR you could just ask Jan since he just set up all of his stuff not too long ago...He can tell you how much a licence and all that cost.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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wouldn't that be asking a little much of Jan...seriously, that would be like him giving the blueprints to his head away
 
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It's more than $8k...

I was at SEMA and the "show special" was about $12k down from $15k or so. And that's for most of what you need. You still need to buy a "checksum" per car. But that's not much per car, and you only need to pay once.

For the price you pay, you get thier interface and software. The interface does some encryption, so you can't reverse enegineer what they do. Once you have the binary into thier software, then you get to do your magic, but they don't tell you what table to change or what. Also, DimSport doesn't know all the bits of the whole binary, so you only get to play in the parts of the playground that they've decoded, unless you have the ***** to play in the "full binary" area, where you take your chances with what mess you can make!

Really, it's a solution tailored for shops, not for individuals. Sad, but true.....

Also, there's another Italian company called Alien Tech that does similar, but I honestly don't know if who has decoded more of the Mini binary. Also, Alien Tech doesn't yet have US distributors....

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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wouldn't that be asking a little much of Jan...seriously, that would be like him giving the blueprints to his head away

I really don't understand what the big deal is...it's not like he's giving away his tuning secrets...OK, For example, I'm an Amsoil dealer. If somone was interested in becoming an Amsoil dealer, then why now ask me on how to do it??? See what I mean? Come on fella's lets stop the bantering already.

That is nothing like giving blueprints away.

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I meant the above statement to be taken as, that you should make the potential competition look "harder" to find their answers. If I wanted to become an Amsoil dealer I would not ask you. I would get the info from Amsoil...that is where I am coming from...

Blue prints to a head-if anyone has access to an expensive plotting machine, then that would be stealing of coarse, but YOU would have to figure out how to interpret all of that info and what not...see what I mean now?

I am not trying to start another war, just giving my opinion...
I am not against you Johan, I am sorry for any harsh feelings
 
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I meant the above statement to be taken as, that you should make the potential competition look "harder" to find their answers. If I wanted to become an Amsoil dealer I would not ask you. I would get the info from Amsoil...that is where I am coming from...

Blue prints to a head-if anyone has access to an expensive plotting machine, then that would be stealing of coarse, but YOU would have to figure out how to interpret all of that info and what not...see what I mean now?

I am not trying to start another war, just giving my opinion...
I am not against you Johan, I am sorry for any harsh feelings
Right on, thanks for the clarification...We just have different mind sets. I'm all about helping people out any way possible...But I do see what you mean
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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If someone is interested in becoming a authorized Dimsport dealer they should get in touch with the US representative for the Dimsport product line. That person is Emile and the name of his company is Vitesse Pro. The contact info is: http://www.vitessepro.com/


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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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that is if emil actually responds to your emails or calls... which is rare from what i discovered.
 
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that is if emil actually responds to your emails or calls... which is rare from what i discovered.
I have not heard of that issue but I will pass along your thoughts.

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Johan
Right on, thanks for the clarification...We just have different mind sets. I'm all about helping people out any way possible...But I do see what you mean
I am in the same mindset as you, but differ when it comes to larger investments I have given a lot of knowledge to those who ask and believe in free knowledge. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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What's interesting...

is that Dimsport isn't the only game in town, in Europe there are even more options than have been listed in this thread. Why they aren't "crossing the pond" more is just beyond me.

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
is that Dimsport isn't the only game in town, in Europe there are even more options than have been listed in this thread. Why they aren't "crossing the pond" more is just beyond me.

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True, it would be interesting to see if anyone else has mapped the ECU further then Dimsport.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
I was at SEMA and the "show special" was about $12k down from $15k or so. And that's for most of what you need. You still need to buy a "checksum" per car. But that's not much per car, and you only need to pay once.
It's not quite per car. It's more like per version of the cars ECU. There are a number of different versions of the MINI ECU out in the wild and each one will cost you whatever their conversion is on credits to real world money.

Also, there's another Italian company called Alien Tech that does similar, but I honestly don't know if who has decoded more of the Mini binary. Also, Alien Tech doesn't yet have US distributors....
AlienTech actually got a bit of their information from DimSport. I looked into the AlienTech systems at one point and they do seem to have an interesting product with their Powergate. It's similar is style to an SCT or EFILive style thing with GM and Ford in that it's a standalone device that reflashes the ECU. However, like most things it requires a competent group/individual behind the tuning.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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I wish AccessECU would work out the BMW/MINI ECU. Standalone USB/OBDII programmer and you can get canned tunes, buy their 'Street Tuner' DIY package or visit a 'ProTuner' equipped dealer for a custom tune. Real-time map switching overlayed on a basemap. Valet mode, 93+ octane maps, etc.

AccessECU started for Subaru's, now on to Nissan/Infiniti VQ cars, the EVO and Mazda.
 
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Originally Posted by PGT
I wish AccessECU would work out the BMW/MINI ECU. Standalone USB/OBDII programmer and you can get canned tunes, buy their 'Street Tuner' DIY package or visit a 'ProTuner' equipped dealer for a custom tune. Real-time map switching overlayed on a basemap. Valet mode, 93+ octane maps, etc.

AccessECU started for Subaru's, now on to Nissan/Infiniti VQ cars, the EVO and Mazda.
I would buy that!

Emil at Vitesse Pro has tuned a bunch of Minis with various different setups using Dimsport. Email him your mods and he can tune your ECU if you send it to him.
Its always an option!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ClintTheMiniOwner
I would buy that!

Emil at Vitesse Pro has tuned a bunch of Minis with various different setups using Dimsport. Email him your mods and he can tune your ECU if you send it to him.
Its always an option!
PGT is already tuned by the man...Jan
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisMCS04
PGT is already tuned by the man...Jan
I was talking about those of us who are unfortunate and out of the Jan tune zone

I am considering a trip down to Cali this summer to get a tune. 20 or so hours there and 20 something hours back is a long haul...I used PGT's quote earlier because a stand alone system would be awesome
 
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I think Jan is working on a solution for you non-local people

but the best way to know is to call him direct.

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