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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Sorry Fisher, no disrespect meant. Any chance you can machine those pulleys in other metal ...like aluminum or even Titanium?
Might garner more interest if they are aluminum, but honestly.. what's the point? The difference you're going to get with the rotational mass of aluminum vs. steel on a tiny part like a s/c pulley would be negligible, and totally not worth any extra cost IMO. Titanium which is expensive and difficult to machine, would be an utter waste of a lot of money.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Tomorrow I will go to holidays for 1.5 month. Then we can say something about the aluminium and titaniuim if you wish.

Bye
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Tomorrow I will go to holidays for 1.5 month.
Dang! I felt fortunate to get 3 days off last month!!
I do miss the European mentality about vacations from my time living there.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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No kidding...I would love 45 days off!!!

Have a good Holiday!
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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I am going to see your country. I hope I will see many MINIs there.

I will missing mine in that time.
If I get the internet somewhere we can talk more about it.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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What part are you visiting Fisher?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Tomorrow I came to Atlanta.

After few days I will go with my cousin to Denver. Then we will be there aroung about 14 days (colorado, arizona, ........).

After that I will fly to Las Vegas with my friend, take a car and go through west coast to San Francisco. After that we fly to New York and probably with the car to Miami, where we fly back to home.

Actually. All part. Ok, almost

It's first time for me that trip and I am a little nervuos now.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Man that sounds like a great trip, this is a hard country to cover in a short amount of time.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan00Hawk
I'm waiting for the pulley from Uzbekistan to be released for $19.99...

The part is NOT expensive to make, and the mark up that we see on other pulleys is simply a combination of "what the market will bear", supply & demand, recouping R&D time, and desired profit margins from the manufacturer.

It would be great to see some of the prices drop for the "name brand" pulleys instead of being held at an artificially high (just my opinion) price...
I second!

It's good to see some competition, it breeds innovation and lower prices.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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I agree. Although, many people are fine paying for pullies at the prices they are at now, because they are reputable upgrades and do come with things like instructions, support, and a name that people know and can trust. However for the rest of us that don't need/care about that stuff, it is nice to have an alternative.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Aeromax
Titanium which is expensive and difficult to machine, would be an utter waste of a lot of money.
Did you mean to say "an UBER waste of a lot money"?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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"VERY NICE"

 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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i was thinking. maybe fisher could bring a whole bunch of pulleys and sell it cheaper once he comes to the states.
but that would basically mean he's not on vacation.
dont wanna bother him with that. he should have his fun.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigSky
Did you mean to say "an UBER waste of a lot money"?
*cough*
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by k-huevo
In the photo below I’m using bicycle quick release wheel skewers from a Camagnolo Record group in lieu of “longer bolts”.
Oh... you must have the quick release version of the pulley.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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I brought up a valid point about the pulley seating far enough on the shaft to damage the retainer, yet it is dismissed off hand as if it is the Eaton’s fault for putting an unnecessary part there in the first place.

We witnessed a blatant hack job at the beginning of this thread and once again, no critical review, in fact nothing but praise to this point.

One poster says he had to pry the aftermarket pulley off and later says no, we used bolts to separate the two halves, yet another person present states we did not have bolts. There’re warning signs here, inconsistent statements by the installer/users which call into question their ability to be objective, and a damaged part, so don’t be so quick to jump on the band wagon folks.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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I think you're getting confused, because we did the pulley install on three cars. Mine, Chisss', and another member who isn't posting. Of the three cars, mine and Chisss' car required hacking the OEM pulley off of the car. The aftermarket pulley went on just fine on both cars, but later on in the day I had to remove mine after an initial start-up test due to some noise. We had to remove it with some force, because we didn't HAVE proper bolts to thread into the "removal holes".

After removal, we inspected everything and decided that it was NOT the pulley that was rubbing, as there were no signs of metal to metal contact, plus it turned freely by hand. We don't know exactly what the rubbing noise was, but after taking everything apart and putting it back together again, all was well. It could have been anything from the tensioner pulley (which DOES need replacement on my car, I'm picking up a new one today as my tensioner is making a LOT of noise after all.) or the bent metal retainer clip on the s/c shaft. We suspect the retainer clip because after the clip was removed, all problems were solved.

In the end, there were no damaged parts unless you want to include the OEM pulley which had no plans on going back on any car anyways. There are no warning signs of anything. We don't benefit whatsoever by giving this product a positive review. If we thought it was a peice of junk and didn't work as expected, we would have said so. If someone would like to offer a critical review, they are welcome to it. We never asked, nor even expected anyone to jump on our inexpensive pulley bandwagon. All we did was share our experience.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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See k-huevo, if you want to share your thoughts about how this pulley works and the quality of it then please do, but if you have no experience about it then don't say that it is neither good or bad aftermarket pulley.

Like aeromax said, all I did was share the experience of our install and yes I did review the pulley, the KMT pulley.

The pulley works fine, the pulley installed perfectly besides the retainer/whetever it is clip on aeromax's car which seemed to be bent in the first place.

The problems we had was removing the stock pulley and not installing and using the KMT pulley.

All 3 cars have been working fine so I don't know why you are getting all mad/aggravated/whatever.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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I’m not confused; chiss gave conflicting accounts of how the aftermarket pulley was removed from Aeromax’s vehicle, in post# 22 chiss states in agreement with my alternative removal method as that was how the pulley was removed, not solely by force as was his first account.

I am incredulous (not angry like chiss’ misguided opinion) as to the notion that all is good when noise occurred after the install, contact was made with the clip, the clip was considered the culprit and discarded, and yet that point was ignored by the readership and the clip’s function was considered inconsequential by the user. My intent has been served when I raised the questions and provided instruction on how to remove this type of aftermarket pulley.

I would hope when others may have a puller failure they would stop, get a better quality puller to finish the removal, and, take care when installing the aftermarket pulley; don’t let impatience get in the way of objectivity.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by k-huevo
I’m not confused; chiss gave conflicting accounts of how the aftermarket pulley was removed from Aeromax’s vehicle, in post# 22 chiss states in agreement with my alternative removal method as that was how the pulley was removed, not solely by force as was his first account.

I am incredulous (not angry like chiss’ misguided opinion) as to the notion that all is good when noise occurred after the install, contact was made with the clip, the clip was considered the culprit and discarded, and yet that point was ignored by the readership and the clip’s function was considered inconsequential by the user. My intent has been served when I raised the questions and provided instruction on how to remove this type of aftermarket pulley.

I would hope when others may have a puller failure they would stop, get a better quality puller to finish the removal, and, take care when installing the aftermarket pulley; don’t let impatience get in the way of objectivity.
I understand that about the removal, but when you have to get home and it's 12am and you need it done you have to do what you have to do.

Also Nobody missed the point on how to remove the pulley, unfortunately with the OEM pulley half out and a broken tool and on a sat afternoon with no other means of getting a pulley but in about 7-10 business days... you hav to do what you have to do...

You have to understand one thing. The aftermarket pulley was the correct size, the clip was bent so therefore unusable and that was the cause of the noise. Is the clip needed for proper functioning? It could be but as of right now everything works the way is suppsed to work.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by minjae
i was thinking. maybe fisher could bring a whole bunch of pulleys and sell it cheaper once he comes to the states.
but that would basically mean he's not on vacation.
dont wanna bother him with that. he should have his fun.

You are to late I am already here in South Carolina. Here is very hot and I am very confused about 6 hours difference in time.

How much cost the pulley install in US? If you go to one of the dealers?

To all others. Problems with removin OEM pulley are not connected with the new reducting pulley. In facelift cars are removing a step harder then in 02/03 cars. Because the pulley is different. If you look on a 02/03 cars the pulley is welded and done from two piece of steal but on the facelift car is turn out from one piece and it's looks like it has stiffner tolerance.

I do not know about install instructions but when I buy one pulley from other (good) mark I didn't get anything specific for good install.
Actually then I done new one by myself because I have big problem with belt sliping, because grooves are bad on it (sharp ended ).
And when I have done it for myself I have do them a little more for others to. For now, everybody was happy from them. I do not have problems (and others too) with sliping now either with 19% smaller.

But if that is problem (package, instructions) is the smallest problem to repair it. Next time everything will be done! But all that cost/that's problem. For few dollars more I can give all that and more maybe t-shirts too.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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k-huevo- Chisss just doesn't know how to write properly, don't blame him. I'm not sure why he said we used that method to remove the pulley, because I can say that is certainly NOT the way we used.

Fisher- I don't think instructions are necessary, but it may help people feel more comfortable about making a purchase. Something to think about.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeromax
k-huevo- Chisss just doesn't know how to write properly, don't blame him. I'm not sure why he said we used that method to remove the pulley, because I can say that is certainly NOT the way we used.

Fisher- I don't think instructions are necessary, but it may help people feel more comfortable about making a purchase. Something to think about.
No problem I will think about it, thanks for your advise.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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For few dollars more I can give all that and more maybe t-shirts too.
Wow, throw a T-shirt in and it's sold!
Seriously, next spring when my car comes out of storage and is ready for her first round of engine upgrades, I'm going to look for an update on this thread and if all is still well, I'll be placing an order.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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So boys are you satisfied with pulleys?

I am finishing my holidays so I open an ebay auction if there are any interest on pulleys. Please if there is a more people who are interested the price is lower/as we do before.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE:IT&ih=016
 
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