Glad you're keeping the MINI. Just keep modding away....There are quite a few things coming down the pike that will kill most of whats on the road today without even going turbo.....Just take your time and do it right & you will be more than happy...

 

good!

driving a MINI nowadays may not be unique as driving one back in 2002 but driving a modded MINI..? very unique.. people may wonder wtf? when you stay on them wrx, evos *****..

to be honest, i have only seen like 2 modded ones on the streets, meaning modded MINIs are hard to come by..

 

You just gotta love that sleeper effect...

 

come on... this car wont touch a 360 or 430... if he wanted to pull away from you he would. Secondly you're talking about street racing which is totally stupid and dangerous. Be a man and take your little boy racer attitude and take it to the track.

Im happy you are fanatical about your mini but don't be disillusioned about A) it's capability B) your capability mr street racer

im sorry to get pissy... btu come on.

 

A bit harsh... but ya

If you almost smoked a friend in a Ferrari (Any ferrari made in the last 10 years) he has no clue how to drive. you're comparing cars that go 140-150 MPH stock with a 6.8 second 0-60 with cars that go 200+ MPH stock with a 0-60 of > 4 seconds. A ferrari will toast a stock MINI any day of the week unless the driver fell asleep at the wheel.

 

Infraction issued to blissful for the blatant street racing post (#25). The offending content has been removed from the post and others that quoted it.

Per the NAM Site Guidelines:I strongly advise all others in this thread to tread carefully.

 

Let's take a Ferrari 360...

(2700 lb car + 200 lb driver) / 300 whp

vs.

(3100 lb car + 200 lb driver) / (400bhp x 85% (assuming drivetrain loss))

9.67 lbs / hp vs. 9.71 lbs / hp

If in fact you get to 300 whp, it's going to be a close race...

That plus, take out the rear seats and replace the stock seats with bucket seats... assuming a 150 lb savings.... and it'll be an entertaining race...

9.17 lbs / hp vs. 9.71 lbs / hp

 

Minimsuprime-I was notified not to talk about street racing by the admin here since I was given a warrning not to do that, however and to your response about my MCS (which by the way has been extensively modded, see my sig.) and believe me you, I am not delusional about what my car can and can't do. I also never said that I touched a 360 or the 430, read my post again, I said he was few car's lenght ahead of me and only that he didn't pull away from me like I thought he would. I'm also sure it has a lot to do with the driver, but I assure you that he was no rookie.

2nd-I don't think that your calling me out about being a man was called for here since I didn't have the means and or the intentions to prove that I am. I also don't believe that because you race your car in the track therefore it proves you're a man, that's a teenager mentality if you ask me. I do agree that street racing however is dangeourse and stupid and by no means am I promoting that nor was my intention to. However I'm sure everyone has at some point come across that situation and has made that mistake.

 

I'd love to believe this as true... but from my experience in application it's a different story.

1) You can count the number of 300whp mini's in this country without using your toes.

2) power to weight is great and all but once that v8 get's moving it will rip you apart 60-150.

3) mid engine rwd will be superior on the track if driven correctly and that ferrari will definitely put all of its' available power after drive train loss to the road..

4) A stock ferrari destroys a mini with a 20k worth of mods.

I love my mini. I wouldn't trade it for the world... but lets not get dissalusioned as to what this car is... A wonderfull comprimise of all the things that come into play with owning a car. IE funfactor, drivablility, cost, performance, etc etc.

Comparing it to a purpose built super car or even semi-super car is like comparing apples to oranges.

edit: BACK ON TOPIC... Blissful that's great... I accept your correction and offer an applogy... It still however doens't change the fact that street racing is pointless and gives any car enthusiest a bad name. If you want to race in any shape or form don't involve innocent people. It doesn't matter if it's drivers, pedestrians or residents of the streets you've decided to prove your manhood on. Street racing is for honda owners... Real car enthusiests prove their capability on a closed course where it actually matters. And I don't really feel bad about the "being a man comments"... street racing is for kids that are young and dumb and full of...

Any reference to racing on the street is a crime against people that really try to beat the stigma of a modified car that doubles as a DD and track rat. I grew up around race tracks and race cars... it's rediculus that I have to defend myself when trying to drive my car on the street...

As i said before... take it to the track.

 

Rusty- I never said that I cought him let alone smoked him. I simply said that he was few car's lenght ahead of me and that he didn't "pull" away from me like I thought he would.

Also I'm well aware that any Ferrari will toast a stock and or a modded MCS (perhaps there are few that can keep up depending on the modds including turbos and such) any day off the week, having said that my MCS is not stock, not that it makes a difference but perhapas the reason why I was able to at least keep it respectabily closer than possibily thought.

 

That's true, Ive supprised a few cars like, mitsu eclisp, colbalt SS, gti and a few bmw330i's

 

blissfull - stop talking about it. Period. Your continuing comments about "pulling on him" etc are still the same thing. I've got half a mind to issue another infraction, and even close the thread.

RIPPER - your last post above is borderline.

EVERYONE - any further mention, quote or posts about -ANY- kind of street racing contest in this thread will result in an immediate infraction.

 

Lovely weather, isn't it?

Nice car the sti.

 

I know you have already made your decision (the right one ) but...

One thing that I like about the mini that is easy to forget is the unique interior. Recently some of my friends that had never seen a mini got a chance to check out my car. All of them were convinced the interior was custom, when the only mod I have is a momo shift ****. While it is unrelated to performance, it does make driving the car a cool experience.
Now when I drive most other cars, I can't wait to get out of them and back into the mini, for example when I drove a rental dodge caravan I was scared the car was going to flip with all the body roll. I think once you have it good it is really hard to go back. Not that the Sti is a bad car (I haven't driven one, so I don't really know how it feels)...

 

It's a bit more complicated than power to weight. Torque plays a huge role, traction plays a HUGE roll (A MCS hasn't got anything on a RWD Ferrari for traction, not to mention the MINI in question has nowhere close to 300 whp.

The rear seats in the MINI weigh about 40 lbs (If that) so you're not looking at anything close to a 150 lb weight savings. MINI's with light wheels, tires, no seats, gutted interiors, etc are tipping the scales at just under 2500 lbs. That's about 170-200 lbs lighter than stock depending on options.

The MINI is not a drag racer, it excels in corners, not on the drag strip.

Even if the MINI had exactly the same power to weight as the Ferrari, there's no way it's going to win a drag race unless the driver is an idiot.

Gotta love censorship

 

Damn, I wanted your wheels.

Good choice.

 

I don't make the rules here, I just enforce them. This entire thread was brought to my attention by another member who reported it, as they should.

Your posts weren't so bad... but the rules here are pretty straightforward.

Legality is the issue, not speed itself.

 

Note that I quoted you, so I was commenting that if you got to 300, which I have faith that RMW can....

TonyB weighs in at 2444, I reckon a regular mortal might get to 2,550 which is around what I'm estimating

Maybe from a roll? What do you think, I'm sure we'll get destroyed at higher speeds.... but the beginning will be funny...

 

Legally a public forum, moderated or unmoderated can't be held responsible for what members post, I feel as though that's the concern, but I also think some of the members here feel like what they want is how things go, and they complain about EVERYTHING to get it turned to their favor. If you don't like street racing, don't read about it... this isn't public radio folks, you subscribed to the forum and chose to read 2 pages of information.

You can't expect everything you find offensive to be removed or censored from your life, learn to deal with it. It's sad the amount of things that are censored today, to the point that many constitutional experts feel as though our basic rights are being thrown away to make everything PC. Freedom of speech and expression are BASIC civil liberties in this country.

I understand you weren't directing comments towards me, and that you don't make the rules, just voicing my opinion. I'm not questioning your decision to remove the material, i'm questioning what on earth has happened to this country that people see a breast on television and have a heart attack, someone says a curse word and people call the FCC to report it, someone talks about driving 5 MPH over the speed limit on a public internet forum and the post is removed and they're issued a "Citation" .

Honestly, grow up people, you can only live under a rock for so long.

 

I don't think it'll matter from any speed. Power isn't created equal. Where that power comes into play, tractive force, torque, driving ability, and gearing all play a part in what car will cross the finish line faster. Interesting, sure, it would be interesting, I'd put money on the Ferrari though .

2550 with no fuel and no driver? The dry weight of a stock MCS is 2680 or so, 130 lbs of weight reduction is a LOT of weight reduction. Lighter battery, crank pulley, carbon fiber hood, light weight 16" wheels and tires, aluminum control arms and trailing arms, rear seat delete, and gutted interior would probably be necessary to get into that weight range.

 

I haven't read all the rules so help me out here.

We can't talk about speeding but if the speed limit is 60 and you play with another car until you hit 60, can we talk about that? Pulling on a car happens all the time and doesn't necessarily mean you are going over the speed limit. Hell, here in SoCal if you don't hammer it getting on the highway you might get run over.

I'm just asking.

Longboard

 

My calculations were a 2550 MINI and a 200 lb driver, so I'm not underestimating weight too much. Also, aren't the seats each like 60lbs? I figure plopping in a couple of racing buckets and the rear seat delete and you're close? Maybe not?

Plus, I have faith in RMW... LOL... Also, c'mon, the fact that the MINI is even close to the ferrari is worth something.

 

Because of the terms used in the site guidelines I’d venture to say that even that would be against the rules. "Street Racing" is probably defined as exhibition of speed or a competition between 2 or more vehicles. You can get a reckless driving or exhibition of speed ticket here in CA doing 5 MPH in a parking lot if the cop feels as though you were racing someone else or "Exhibiting speed". Silly, but hey, they make millions a year writing tickets for silly reasons.

I'm sure someone more familiar with NAM's guidelines and how to interpret them will chime in and clarify.

 

I don't know the weights on the front seats, I remember seeing 38 lbs for the rear seats though.

 

The guidelines are not very clear in this area and leave a bit to interpration. Longboard, your example, in theory, would violate the rules as it does involve a contest on the public roads. At least thats the way I see it.