Drivetrain High Flow Heads and MPG
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High Flow Heads and MPG
Ok, So after the recent threads on high flow heads, I feel I need to make a disclaimer... I'm not trying to start a war here!
I am mearly curious as to what you folks with high flow heads are getting in terms of MPG depending on your driving style.
Yes, I realize it's not a mod meant to do anything more than add TQ and HP, but I'm curious as to this bi-product.
My gut tells me that an engine that flows better is more efficient.
I bet when you guys aren't punching it (does this happen? ), you're getting slightly better fuel economy?
I am mearly curious as to what you folks with high flow heads are getting in terms of MPG depending on your driving style.
Yes, I realize it's not a mod meant to do anything more than add TQ and HP, but I'm curious as to this bi-product.
My gut tells me that an engine that flows better is more efficient.
I bet when you guys aren't punching it (does this happen? ), you're getting slightly better fuel economy?
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Well my personal experience is that my milage has increased significantly. Prior to the install I was getting around 23mpg for city driving and 28mpg on the highway. Now I am getting 28-30mpg around town and over 30 on the highway.
This is a calculated value as well, not based off the MFD.
This is a calculated value as well, not based off the MFD.
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That would be an interesting result!
If true (that a head with improved flow characteristics increases fuel economy), that would be an interesting cost-benefit calculation. With the price of gas (at least in CA) pushing $4.00/gallon in some areas, a 20-ish% improvement might pay for the cost of the head (especially if the price of gas continues to increase...).
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If true (that a head with improved flow characteristics increases fuel economy), that would be an interesting cost-benefit calculation. With the price of gas (at least in CA) pushing $4.00/gallon in some areas, a 20-ish% improvement might pay for the cost of the head (especially if the price of gas continues to increase...).
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I get between 22 and 24 mpg in town (Up from 20-22 before install) and 32-36 on the highway (Provided i'm just cruising at 65-70). If i'm cruising at more reasonable speeds (Keeping up with traffic) at 75-80 I get ~28 mpg. I'm a pretty fast driver, especially in town, my milage reflects .
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Steve's Auto Clinic High-Flow (Allah) Head
STREET - Combined City/Highway - Average MPG
Before: *20 mpg with JCW tune (6800rpm redline)
After: *20 mpg with custom tune (7500 redline)
RACE TRACK / AUTO-X - Average MPG
Before: 10 mpg w/JCW tune (6800rpm redline)
After: 8 mpg w/custom tune (7500 redline)
*Yes thanks, I'm a lead foot...
Before: *20 mpg with JCW tune (6800rpm redline)
After: *20 mpg with custom tune (7500 redline)
RACE TRACK / AUTO-X - Average MPG
Before: 10 mpg w/JCW tune (6800rpm redline)
After: 8 mpg w/custom tune (7500 redline)
*Yes thanks, I'm a lead foot...
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My runs at the Dragon averaged around 23...so it doesn't seem to matter how I drive...
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If true (that a head with improved flow characteristics increases fuel economy), that would be an interesting cost-benefit calculation. With the price of gas (at least in CA) pushing $4.00/gallon in some areas, a 20-ish% improvement might pay for the cost of the head (especially if the price of gas continues to increase...).
An improvement from 25 to 30 MPG, assuming $3.00 gas, would take well over 100,000 miles... With $6.00 gas, it would take over 60,000 miles.... I don't think my wife will buy it...
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As to the motor, it's might be available soon, you already know what I've got coming....
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LCC Benefit of Improved Gas Mileage
Here's a chart I generated to show the time for a set of mods to pay off if the gas mileage improved roughly 10%. The blue circles are the curve for an improvement from 30 to 33 mpg; the red triangles for an improvement from 27 to 30 mpg. The cost of the mods was estimated to be $5800. The trend that is readily apparent is that the higher the cost of gas, the faster the mods pay off.
Have fun modding!
Have fun modding!
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Q for your guys. Did you calculate your MPG or use the computer? If you upgraded the injectors, I believe it will mess up the computer MPG output. There is a thread here some where. Not trying to rain on any parade, just curious.
Regardless, if you can install a performance product and improve efficiency is always a good thing. Isn't that what we tell our significant others when we buy performance....er I mean products to improve the efficiency of our cars? :p I can see it now..."honey, the Mini seems to be getting worse mileage. So and so's car gets XX MPG with this part, just think of all the money we will save...it will pay for itself." (more true now with todays gas prices).
Regardless, if you can install a performance product and improve efficiency is always a good thing. Isn't that what we tell our significant others when we buy performance....er I mean products to improve the efficiency of our cars? :p I can see it now..."honey, the Mini seems to be getting worse mileage. So and so's car gets XX MPG with this part, just think of all the money we will save...it will pay for itself." (more true now with todays gas prices).