CHA-CHING! DP points for MiniMaybee but not for Kenchan. Sorry Ken! LOL

-Heather

 

Hmmm, maybe I should be a Prima rep when Heathers not around...hmm wait I kinda am already. .JK

You're doing great! I've actually had a lot less time to hang out on the forums too--so much to do behind the scenes..but good to see you back.

Richard

 

Ya know, I have to admit... with you and some of the more experience OCDers out there, most of the questions over the past week or so have already been answered without me!

Thanks a ton for answering stuff for me!

Good to be back too!

Oh, and I LOVE your lights! We have a handheld "swirl-finder" dealio too but it's not as cool as your dual lamp "gun"! Nick just came over to look at it and now he wants one too!

-Heather

 

Sounds like Nick's Xmas wish there to me!

My solution to making sure I get what I want for Xmas is to just buy it for myself, LOL. Takes the stress off everyone--well not that I have that many people to exchange gifts with....

re: answering stuff
Hey no problem--it's what I do.

 

Yeah, I answer things too, then Richard corrects me - no problem.
Oh and to make Ken feel even worse about losing his point, I'm donating all my DP points to a charity.

 

oh you mother *cusses* ing piece of *cusses*

 

mother *cusses* ing

Mother of three to be exact

 

Thanks for your response heather. Now i have to buy more :p So would you suggest using Hyrdo after every wash? I was thinking about using slick after every wash but it seems Hyrdo gives the same finish takes the same effort to apply and lasts longer? tell me what i am missing?

ps. you just spray it on and wipe it off with a MF right?

 

^^ i would use Hydro after each wash. per octaneguy, i think he
sprayed hydro into his MF towel then applied it onto the car.

but im sure overspray can be easily wiped off without visible residue.

also you can do door jams with that using a cotton towel
you would dispose after all surfaces are used up.

 

I've applied Hydro both ways--

Spray on a MF towel and wipe on as well as spray directly on the paint and wipe. Either way is fine. Hydro doesn't affect the trim, but if I were putting in on an area near my grills, I would definitely apply it to the towel first for more control. While it may not affect the plastic, you still have to spend time and effort to wipe up your mess and getting it in the nooks of the grill isn't fun.

Currently I use Hydro after I QD with Slick--but not every time--since I don't wash all that often. Just once a week or once every two weeks--whenever I want to add a bit more protection.

 

Heather, can you make more Prima geek goodies like
small plastic shelves, containers, stools, detailer cart,
t-shirts? If not, even decals would be nice that we can
slap onto our plastic containers, etc. Your PRIMA logo
is very cool.

im into that stuff... as you've probably seen on ML's thread
about Griots, im not entirely happy with them although i like
a lot of their stuff. i need more Prima geek merchandise.

turn us into Prima dorks and geeks further.

let the Primaism start!

 

First, in response to the application of Hydro:

Hydro can be applied 2 different ways:

1) As a "Wax-As-You-Dry" spray. This means that you handwash your car normally, with soap and water. Then, rinse the car. Before drying, spritz the car all over with Hydro. Then dry normally with a microfiber towel (ie, waffle-weave drying towel). You dry the car as you work in/buff off the Hydro... all in one step!

The Hydro is super-concentrated and was originally designed to be applied in this way.

2) As a Quick Detail spray. Just as with a quick detail spray, you can spray Hydro on your dry car and wipe off with a plush microfiber cloth. I find that it takes an extra swipe or two of my microfiber cloth to buff off versus a quick detail spray. This is because it's so concentrated and thick.

*In either case, Hydro is designed to be used on all parts of your exterior... paint, glass, plastic, metal, etc. So not only do you not have to worry about overspray on your trim, you should be spraying Hydro directly onto your trim for protection and a wee bit of enhancement. I spray it all over!

OctaneGuy has a good point about avoiding nooks and crannies if you want to... not because Hydro is bad for these areas but because you may not want to take the time to "micro-buff" it off in those tiny crevices. And yes, you can spray Hydro on your cloth first but I personally think this wastes a little of the Hydro and doesn't really benefit anything (unless you're avoiding nooks and crannies for the sake of convenience). I always spray it directly on the car. All in all, I suppose it really doesn't matter though.

Which application is better? It's a matter of preference. I find using it as a Wax-As-You-Dry spray is very convenient for giving the car a little random spruce-up or when I haven't had the time to wax when I should. So I tend to use it on a wet car. Nick, on the other hand, prefers to use it more as a quick detail spray. He uses it all the time to just spruce up the car when its dry. We have a '79 red Alfa in our store showroom right now and every morning he QD's it with Hydro. So, it depends on how you like to work. Hydro is very flexible!


Slick vs. Hydro?

Durability: Hydro lasts several weeks and up to 3 months. Slick lasts several days and up to 3 weeks.

Appearance: Hydro tends to have more depth, gloss, and warmth than Slick, although Slick has a nice amount of glossiness too. Both create the same super-slick surface. Note that Hydro's appearance will improve in the 24 hours after application (similar to Epic).

Function: Hydro is just a polymer-based spray wax (aka spray sealant) and contains a very small (almost negligible) amount of cleaners. Slick, as most traditional quick detail sprays, contains some polymer-based wax but also contains light cleaners/surfectants too. This means that Slick can be used not only for "shine" touch-ups but for light "problem" cleaning (ie, cleaning bird droppings or water spots, from a relatively clean surface). Some people like to use Slick for glass cleaning as well.

Other: Hydro is thicker and heavier and is therefore a little stubborn to buff off (relative to Slick). Having said that, Hydro is still easier to buff off than any other spray wax I've used. Slick, on the other hand, is very light and super easy to buff off.


The one you choose depends on your preference... easy of use vs the different looks the impart, etc. It also depends on what your goal is. Again, for me, I use Hydro only as a spray wax, mostly on a wet post-washed surface. I use Slick as a QD... when I want to spruce up the car and/or if I'm cleaning off light dust, bird droppings and water spots. I do sometimes use Hydro on a dry surface... but not as often as Slick. However, Nick sometimes uses Slick to spruce up but usually just when the cleaners are needed. He uses Hydro much more often as his touch-up QD. So even between the two of us, their use differs a bit based on our different preferences.

I hope I clarified how Hydro can be applied and also when you use it versus Slick. They do overlap in many areas, which can cause confusion, but they are also different too. Ultimately, you really can't go wrong with either one!

More questions? Fire away! I'm on the forum all day long today!

-Heather

 

Yes! We are working on some of those "Prima geek goodies" right now.

In fact, a friend's wife makes candles and we were laughing the other day about how funny it would be to make a Slick-smelling candle, a Hydro-smelling candle, etc! Her favorite candle-making thing to do is to make up cool scents so she was really intrigued. Wouldn't that be funny?? A Slick candle?! Probably not the kind of geek goodie you were referring to, but funny anyway!

With your request, we'll hurry up on the Prima goodies! Probably decals and t-shirts just to start. Maybe by February or March? I'll keep you "geeks" posted.

-Heather

 

i was wondering about a small detailing carry bag for the boot. something that would hold, say, slick and hydro containers with their spray heads (or maybe slick & clarity ) and a few microfibers? something small with say... the dimensions of the recessed area of the MINI boot . I'm currently keeping some Quik Detailer and microfiber towel in a plastic bag from the store, which looks bad (yuck). of course, i guess it is not good to keep these things in the boot when it is really cold or really hot. but, that's another good reason for a carry bag.

 

oh yes... i just got shivers down my spine in good excitement. nice!!!

btw, that Slick smelling candle could be a hit, especially if you can
get mosquito fighting agents in it!!! often times i have
to spray OFF all over my arms and neck cause we have a lot of
mosquitos after the sun goes down. i personally don't like spraying
chemicals on my body cause i play with my son a lot and i don't want to
get it on him.

 

Thanks Heather for the very detailed explanation. Just to clarify, when people use Hydro, they spray it on, but don't let it dry before wiping off, correct?? That's how I use it, but some other spray waxes need to dry like any other wax product before wiping it off.

Thanks

Richard

 

Good question... I'm glad you asked. I realized I didn't explain that well.

You are correct. You spray it on and wipe it right off, just like a QD spray. You do not wait for it to dry like a regular wax.

Thanks for asking that!

-Heather

 

Hmmm, it's 3PM PST. Let's test if Heather is watching with my two questions here.

According to the Primacarcare.com site, Epic is described as having the following property:

"The slick finish is dust-resistant, preventing daily dust buildup."
From
http://www.primacarcare.com/Prima_Products.html

Does Hydro also have this property??

Also since Hydro was designed to be used on a wet car because it is highly concentrated does that mean if you applied it to a dry car, you might get even more protection because you aren't diluting it??

 

Ha-ha! Here I am! I don't know how many east-coasters are still watching, but you and I are just an hour apart.


Yes, Hydro is very dust-resistant. Slick is also dust-resistant, but slightly less so than Hydro.

In fact, when Hydro is used on a dry surface (straight-up and not on the rocks ), it is even more dust-resistant than Epic. In other words, used full strength Hydro is extremely dust-resistant. This leads us into your other question...

Yes, Hydro used on a dry surface results in a stronger layer of protection, better dust-resistance, and stronger durability than if it is used on a wet surface as a wax-as-you-dry. Hydro used on a wet surface does mix with the water on the surface, thereby diluting it a bit.

Having said that, Hydro is still very effective and durable, etc. when used on a wet surface as a wax-as-you-dry spray (like I like to do!).

-Heather

 

East-coaster here, watching you, Heather.

 

Haha Heather comes through again!!
Thanks!

 

I should've known there'd be an obsessed NAMer from the east out there... and no surprise it's you!

As for me, I'm signing off for the evening... headed to the theatre! See ya all tomorrow!

Heather

 

I wrote some more about Nero in this thread:

Prima Epic

 

Man you guys are prima mad. If only everyone in Australia was as well.
I have reserved hydro for use only on waxed cars (not mine) and use slick after every wash on my car. We have stage 4 water restrictions down under and that means no home car washing so I've had to do it at a coin op place. Fortunately it's damn good.

Love my DP t shirts too, not only has the logo but it's made from fantastic material. Thanks heather

I did notice that if you use some pressure to wipe on hydro, that it will fill in and hide swirl marks and minor scratches.
Not sure if it's permanent (test car I have not seen for many months)

 

^^ DP t-shirts?