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No I'm pretty sure it 1.6L justaONE with their bluefin ECU and CAI, Header and cat-back......the one is sold in other markets, obviosly NOT the US and is basicly a Cooper with the ECU set for only 95 hp and simple plastics like a the grill and other parts that are chromed here on the cooper!
Thought I'd seen something about 1.4L
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINI_(BMW)
Edit:One has a 1.4L in 2007 everywhere it's marketed now.
http://www.mini.co.uk/html/model_ran.../techSpec.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINI_(BMW)
In Portugal and Greece, the MINI One is powered by a 1.4 litre version of the Tritec engine but all other petrol powered MINIs use the 1.6 litre version
http://www.mini.co.uk/html/model_ran.../techSpec.html
Last edited by dwjj; Apr 11, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason: more info
its not true....the ONE is just a cooper, but the HP is restricted via the ECU. It's mainly offered in europe to keep the insurance prices lower. Thats why the ONE can get a TON of HP from a chip upgrade
I gave a link to a MINI uk site stating that the 07 has a 1.4, and another saying that a only couple of countries had a 1.4 instead of the 1.6 for the earlier years (so most of Europe was definitely 1.6 before '07). I had thought I'd heard something about One and 1.4L, it turns out I didn't obviously know exactly what I'd heard. I fully agree that the Lohan car is a 1.6, because it's not an '07. I'm not saying the Lohan car is a 1.4.
You're saying that's not true? Can you give some backup?
Are you saying the '07 MINI One isn't a 1.4 even though the MINI UK site is saying it is?
You're saying that's not true? Can you give some backup?
Are you saying the '07 MINI One isn't a 1.4 even though the MINI UK site is saying it is?
I gave a link to a MINI uk site stating that the 07 has a 1.4, and another saying that a only couple of countries had a 1.4 instead of the 1.6 for the earlier years (so most of Europe was definitely 1.6 before '07). I had thought I'd heard something about One and 1.4L, it turns out I didn't obviously know exactly what I'd heard. I fully agree that the Lohan car is a 1.6, because it's not an '07. I'm not saying the Lohan car is a 1.4.
You're saying that's not true? Can you give some backup?
Are you saying the '07 MINI One isn't a 1.4 even though the MINI UK site is saying it is?
You're saying that's not true? Can you give some backup?
Are you saying the '07 MINI One isn't a 1.4 even though the MINI UK site is saying it is?
MINI UK:
MINI ONE 1.6.......the ONE we all know......
MINI ONE 1.4.......2002-2004....same MINI motor the ONE has
MINI ONE D 1.4.....Diesel version we all know....Toyota motor
MINI Cooper 1.6.......
I work for a small autoparts wherehouse that deals with european cars and I have access to the programs the dealerships use. This information came off the BMW ETK.
MINI ONE 1.6.......the ONE we all know......
MINI ONE 1.4.......2002-2004....same MINI motor the ONE has
MINI ONE D 1.4.....Diesel version we all know....Toyota motor
MINI Cooper 1.6.......
I work for a small autoparts wherehouse that deals with european cars and I have access to the programs the dealerships use. This information came off the BMW ETK.
SOOooooo..... now that we have that cleared up... LOL
What about the Head on the MC...?? if you want that 130 + mph.. give me an email... We make the Head to your application... and they rock!! The Dragon is soon to be on us!!
Just me.....................................
Thumper
What about the Head on the MC...?? if you want that 130 + mph.. give me an email... We make the Head to your application... and they rock!! The Dragon is soon to be on us!!
Just me.....................................
Thumper
Finally got the Dyno done...

Top power = 120.53.
Top torque = 108.14.
Although it's a 12hp gain from my previous dyno, I was told that the stock ECU is holding me back, and when that gets changed, the car should be looking at 130's or even 140's (one can hope, right? lol).
Take care,
Leo.

Top power = 120.53.
Top torque = 108.14.
Although it's a 12hp gain from my previous dyno, I was told that the stock ECU is holding me back, and when that gets changed, the car should be looking at 130's or even 140's (one can hope, right? lol).
Take care,
Leo.
That should put you around 134BHP. If you can get it up to 140whp, you'll be in MCS territory. I expect and ECU tune on the normally aspirated car may get you to 130ish whp.
Last edited by davisflyer; Jun 2, 2007 at 08:17 PM.
Finally got the Dyno done...

Top power = 120.53.
Top torque = 108.14.
Although it's a 12hp gain from my previous dyno, I was told that the stock ECU is holding me back, and when that gets changed, the car should be looking at 130's or even 140's (one can hope, right? lol).
Take care,
Leo.

Top power = 120.53.
Top torque = 108.14.
Although it's a 12hp gain from my previous dyno, I was told that the stock ECU is holding me back, and when that gets changed, the car should be looking at 130's or even 140's (one can hope, right? lol).
Take care,
Leo.
i have got a cooper with these mods..
CAI pipercross viper induction kit
obx header
oem cat
supersprint catback
software tuned by dutch racing company
and i am putting down
93 kw or 124,67 bhp
158 nm (torque)
so i assume the head did not give u the actual numbers Thumper predicts ???
lets say u have a standard cooper with 115 bhp , + the minimal thumper predictions of 18 bhp , makes it 133 bhp....
so u are way off actual predictions with your new head. And sorry to say , but i think thumper is predicting to much on the coopers....
please tel me if i am wrong cause i would like to do headwork myself , but for these little improvements i do not find it worth it ?
I agree... I believe there are other issues goin on here. that is the GOOD thing about using a real driver instead of a car I own. I , having no control on what or how it is installed. still more to come. 12 HP is a bummer.. yes?
Just me....................................
Thumper
Just me....................................
Thumper
It was good you did a delta to avoid the "my dyno vs yours"...
If the new head just requires an ECU to go with it, that wouldn't be the end of the world. Hopefully you'll get some better numbers then.
If the new head just requires an ECU to go with it, that wouldn't be the end of the world. Hopefully you'll get some better numbers then.
[quote=miniracer1;1562282]
and i am putting down
93 kw or 124,67 bhp
158 nm (torque)
so i assume the head did not give u the actual numbers Thumper predicts ???
lets say u have a standard cooper with 115 bhp , + the minimal thumper predictions of 18 bhp , makes it 133 bhp....
quote]
They are quoting wheel horse power you are quoting flywheel horsepower, hes making around 150-155 at the flywheel
and i am putting down
93 kw or 124,67 bhp
158 nm (torque)
so i assume the head did not give u the actual numbers Thumper predicts ???
lets say u have a standard cooper with 115 bhp , + the minimal thumper predictions of 18 bhp , makes it 133 bhp....
quote]
They are quoting wheel horse power you are quoting flywheel horsepower, hes making around 150-155 at the flywheel
[quote=Paul Webster;1563496]
HAHA yeah maybe.... good one
and i am putting down
93 kw or 124,67 bhp
158 nm (torque)
so i assume the head did not give u the actual numbers Thumper predicts ???
lets say u have a standard cooper with 115 bhp , + the minimal thumper predictions of 18 bhp , makes it 133 bhp....
quote]
They are quoting wheel horse power you are quoting flywheel horsepower, hes making around 150-155 at the flywheel
93 kw or 124,67 bhp
158 nm (torque)
so i assume the head did not give u the actual numbers Thumper predicts ???
lets say u have a standard cooper with 115 bhp , + the minimal thumper predictions of 18 bhp , makes it 133 bhp....
quote]
They are quoting wheel horse power you are quoting flywheel horsepower, hes making around 150-155 at the flywheel

Do you know some one that MIGHT want to evaluate a camshaft I am having designed for the MC?? I know you have the Schrick....( camshaft eta approx end of Jan or Feb ) and YES you are the ONLY MC with my head on at this time!! 130 MPH rocks in a MC , huh?? Just dont get into any tight turns... lol!!
Have fun and we are all looking to the Dyno sheet!!
Just me........................................
Thumper
Have fun and we are all looking to the Dyno sheet!!
Just me........................................
Thumper
Chad
Actually, he's right on. He's putting down 120 WHP, not BHP. If you put in the correction factor to BHP, he's putting down 134.4 BHP, 10 BHP more than your car!.
that is so awesome, i really want one too, just have to scrouge up the dollars
NO ONE is doing that.. there are a lot of independent shops out there, I think the Dynos are grossly different also.. can pull here and then there and then over there... too many variables!! I can do the befor head// before cam/ befor water meth... and then add it all together... but then tune?? there is no one close to tune.. and then run on my dyno... see what I mean??
Maybe soon... but I dont feel there is a place yet!! And then there is always the BS factor that seems to inter in there..LOL
Head thru me is 1250.00 install in Fl is about 400-450.00, add the gaskets and that will kick it up a few more bucks.. dont know about else where??
Just me........................................
Thumper
Maybe soon... but I dont feel there is a place yet!! And then there is always the BS factor that seems to inter in there..LOL
Head thru me is 1250.00 install in Fl is about 400-450.00, add the gaskets and that will kick it up a few more bucks.. dont know about else where??
Just me........................................
Thumper


