Cooper (non S) Modifications specific to the MINI Cooper (R56).

R56 Cooper - Modified Intake Silencer

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Old 03-30-2012, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ive's Mini View Post
I did the duct tape deal the other day. I covered all 4 holes. I love the sound and so far the car feels stronger mid throttle and my mileage went up. I'm still trying to figure out if its real or in my head, but I am very pleased with this 10 minute upgrade!
niice! id say its a bit a both. there are many factors that play into the MPG games so i wouldn't directly correlate this mod with your improved MPG however it would make sense that there would be some increase in MPG because of the smoother/more efficient air flow. either way, sounds like you approve
 
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:44 PM
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Did this myself last night, Nice little increase in growl. Easy and fun little Mod. I already had a KN Typhoon installed so it wasn't a VERY noticeable difference, but there IS a difference.
 
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by checkercoop View Post
Ahhh man it worked like a charm! Thanks chubv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QatCVaVl4Iw&sns=em
Sounds awesome - amazing what covering a few holes can do
 
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:02 AM
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this is probably a really dumb question. I've seen other people talking about intake silencers, so what exactly does it do and what does taping the holes inside of it do?
 
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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The silencer does just what it's name implies - it makes the intake charge air slower and silent .... by taping the holes you make it smoother and speed up the air ( less turbulence ) think VIP air tube - and it makes a bit more noise. It 'might' give you a tiny bit more power , but that is up to you to decide...
 
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:46 PM
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okay i figured, just wanted to be sure. So what kind of tape would I use to do this mod and would I have to remove the tape before taking it for inspection (If possible)?
 
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:43 PM
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I'm definitely gonna try this. I have the DDM intake, but I will remove it and try the tape and let you all know differences I notice.
 
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:38 PM
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Tried the tape. MUCH quieter than the DDM. However, I really couldn't tell much difference between the tape and stock.
 
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:23 PM
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Has anyone just removed the intake silencer? I removed mine while I drove to get tape for this mod and really liked the way it sounded. I was just wondering if anyone has tried this, and what the long term thoughts were.
 
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:26 AM
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I've only seen this thread a few days ago and for those wondering... this does not work on the Cooper D. The Cooper D does not have the silencer :D
 
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by greenminiclub View Post
Has anyone just removed the intake silencer? I removed mine while I drove to get tape for this mod and really liked the way it sounded. I was just wondering if anyone has tried this, and what the long term thoughts were.
yes it works but you are then sucking air from right next to the engine block which is very hot. the tube connects to the front where it can get some cooler air. so if you like the sound, go ahead and tape 'er up... or just get DDM intake and it will howl even more.
 
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:32 PM
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I used thick aluminum tape sold at the auto parts stores for "patching" mufflers, strong heat resistant epoxy like adhesive and it is already precut in strips to the shape you need for this job.
 
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:09 PM
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covering the holes

For what purpose do the holes exist? I would think they serve some purpose and covering them may harm/damage/upset something mechanical in the long term.
 
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by checkercoop View Post
Ahhh man it worked like a charm! Thanks chubv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QatCVaVl4Iw&sns=em
OHHHHH! Nice video... SOLD! Lol
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:12 AM
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For what purpose do the holes exist? I would think they serve some purpose and covering them may harm/damage/upset something mechanical in the long term.
There was a big disagreement among the engineers and marketers on this Mini when details of design were being ironed out with the accountants. A committee decided the final product. Some parties wanted a quiet high mpg commuter with flash, some wanted a respectable remake of a classic British hot rod for the masses. Both got something they wanted in the design.

As for the math on what the holes are doing in this resonator, I cannot provide it to you, nor have I ever seen it published but I am sure it is available somewhere. Basically, the holes provide turbulence during the rush of cold air to the intake, which is eliminated by every aftermarket intake manufacturer for this system - most by putting a straight drainpipe like tube to the airfilter.This turbulence cancels noise created by waves of air pressure moving swiftly through the chamber by creating high/low and out of phase shock waves in a tight area. As I understand it, air moving at high velocity creates friction which we hear as noise, an "intake roar". Ever hear a set of 12 open carbs on a '50's Lamborghini 12 cylinder? I think there is a generation of young drivers that come from playing Nintendo "Tron lightcycle" that just don't get what benefits in feedback to the driver of the whole old school carb linkage/induction noise gives.

The same effect that covering the holes can be made by any piece of pipe in an appropriate diameter for the volume. You can pay $200 for this pipe, or get one at Home Depot in the plumbing section, the engine doesn't care how much you paid for that performance. Taping these holes essentially is creating that "ideal" tube out of what is stock. What I offered by my post was a choice in the tape material that would stand up to the heat better than Gorilla tape, hell - they tape airplane wings together with this stuff, it is proven strong!

Do some $200+ intake systems perform better than duct tape? Of course they do, but I have to point out that ALL of them use something like a K&N filter and then go on to claim some vague HP increase that is within 1% or so of what K&N claims for their filter alone. But is it just good enough for the street, not the race track? My opinion is spend the $5 on the duct tape and $195 on a driving school,... decide later if you have to have the bling.

A minor caveat to my rant - it is possible that at the highest rpms there could be some undesirable effects, I wonder if poking a hole in the tape on two of the smallest holes or making a "tent" to obstruct and disperse airflow might not be a good idea? A poster upthread made this same observation at WOT, that it was cavitating and causing an alarming popping noise.
 

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Old 06-21-2013, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by elvis cole View Post
For what purpose do the holes exist? I would think they serve some purpose and covering them may harm/damage/upset something mechanical in the long term.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_resonance

It's there to quiet the intake.

All OE setups do this to eliminate noise/frequencies that engineers/testers/grandmothers/people who hate cars deem undesirable.

For the engineer, I've heard that the noise.. Is actually "bad" for fuel economy. The chambers smooth out the power pulses generated by the airflow as the intake valves snap shut. The air rushing in was pushed by the air behind it.

When the air gets the door, er.. Valve slammed in its face it makes noise.. And noise is the "growl" we like.

The air has no "cushion" or "relief" left from the covered holes... Normally the air could "rest" in the pockets... It's like changing the length of a trombone... The size and shape of the chamber changes the sound.

Trust me. You harm nothing other than an engineers pride when you cover them up.
 
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Originally Posted by danjreed View Post
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_resonance

It's there to quiet the intake.

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The air has no "cushion" or "relief" left from the covered holes... Normally the air could "rest" in the pockets...
Great explanation! And I would like to add that you can feel that "cushion" in the throttle pedal as a "lag" in response. Add to it the increased feedback sound from the intake (which is a change in pitch and volume) and I feel a driver can more effectively manage the throttle. For $5
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:35 PM
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danjreed and RockAZ - awesome explanations! It helps to understand the dynamics of an engine/intake in order to decide whether taping off holes is worth it or not. I taped mine off with duct tape 2 years ago - I'm convinced theoretically that there's no difference between this and an aftermarket tube, but I may opt for the bling down the road.
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:30 PM
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After two years I would be curious about the condition of that tape now. Here in Arizona, it would have rotted and flaked away, I'm sure. That aluminum tape I put in will outlast the plastic in this heat. You can find this $5 package in the exhaust section of any popular auto parts store, and it is enough to do two cars.

Since my K&N filter has not yet arrived, I have been driving it with the stock air filter and I can definitely feel an improvement in the throttle response and a bit more noise. Stock muffler and exhaust resonator still in place, but I swear there is more growl coming from the tailpipe.
 
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:42 AM
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thank you

ROCKAZ AND danjreed, thank you for your very sensible explanations.
 
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:16 PM
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Tried out the duct tape modified intake silencer today, covered all the holes and love the sound! I see that VIP makes a straight pipe (AIRVIP2) intake silencer delete, and am now considering this more permanent install. Does anyone know whether other suppliers are selling products like this?
 
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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I removed my resonator for 2 days and it drove me insane. at 3000+ rpm the drone was sooooooo loud!!!! above that was a good sound but i also lost 3mpg.

one of the worst things i ever did. seriously. ill make my own intake out of the 2.5" intercooler piping kits on ebay / amazon with a K&N filter.

I tried to tape the elbow but had no tools that could get the tape to adhere. eff it.
 
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:35 PM
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Just did the tape mod...that was an easy mod....also installed the sport aerial rod...
 
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I'm gonna do this tomorrow. Also, I could be wrong but wouldn't the silencer insulate the intake from the hot block a little?
 
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:37 AM
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Oh I am so glad that I finally found this. I didn't know what that black square box is called so I had to use different search terms and go through tons of threads.

If the silencer does nothing more than sound-dampening, then I want to remove the whole things. I thought it was there as a pre-filter filter to remove water and other debris so that they don't even enter the intake box. If that is not the case, I will run a straight pipe from the intake duct to the intake inlet (?).
 

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