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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 11:11 PM
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Yes I did ask the dealer about the TSB and also spoke with the service tech and they advised there was no TSB at this time. I will definitely let you know what they say after my appointment.
Maybe threre is one now???
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 12:05 AM
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In Europe they postponed even the production of the new Diesel.
"Knowing that 1.5L is the first year of their production (so is 2.0L) for the U.S. market, it is understandable that Mini didn't get it quite right the first time."
I don't agree with this.When I bought the new Lexus CT there has never been any problem.They have to do their homework properly.
The Minis I had were without any problem.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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so far, those having issues are...


8 people, unknowing the total with the 1.5L auto that have viewed this thread. if anyone knows anyone else, please have them add to the list too. thanks.



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Chazman
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Cb4d

and Miniwuff – has info it is a bulletin with an update to correct.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Crashsector jumps in and states a TSB, but leaves no info or links!

And Miniwuff passes along no link or TSB numbers either!

If anyone actually has a TSB either from MINI USA or directly from a dealer, can you post it here?
Crashsector said it would be out 8/4 , but then he hasn't returned or updated!
It looks like several peeps could use some USEFUL information here to assist in rectifying this issue.
Don't have the 3cyl, but can and am feeling your pain with a brand new car acting out of character.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deovolens
In Europe they postponed even the production of the new Diesel. "Knowing that 1.5L is the first year of their production (so is 2.0L) for the U.S. market, it is understandable that Mini didn't get it quite right the first time." I don't agree with this.When I bought the new Lexus CT there has never been any problem.They have to do their homework properly. The Minis I had were without any problem.
Didn't they supposedly run 100 F56s for nearly a year in real-life testing, prior to its release? I'm sure I read that someplace.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CMP
so far, those having issues are... 8 people, unknowing the total with the 1.5L auto that have viewed this thread. if anyone knows anyone else, please have them add to the list too. thanks. Cmp Sepptb Patriot! Drummerhc Chazman Darex Laj1211 Cb4d and Miniwuff 舑 has info it is a bulletin with an update to correct.
I'm also miffed that this supposed TSB and fix only covers automatic transmissions, when it seems that manual transmission models are just as affected.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by darex
I'm also miffed that this supposed TSB and fix only covers automatic transmissions, when it seems that manual transmission models are just as affected.


sorry, I might have stated that without knowing what type you had... maybe it goes across the board rather than just auto's.


just trying to find the issue/solution so no one gets injured out there.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 12:02 PM
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Interesting that this anomaly seems to be the sole affliction of the Justa.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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Similar/same issue reported in UK site.

http://www.minif56.com/forum/289-min...tml#post100121

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Interesting that this anomaly seems to be the sole affliction of the Justa.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BubbaJCW
Crashsector jumps in and states a TSB, but leaves no info or links!

And Miniwuff passes along no link or TSB numbers either!

If anyone actually has a TSB either from MINI USA or directly from a dealer, can you post it here?
Crashsector said it would be out 8/4 , but then he hasn't returned or updated!
It looks like several peeps could use some USEFUL information here to assist in rectifying this issue.
Don't have the 3cyl, but can and am feeling your pain with a brand new car acting out of character.
Here you go:

SI M12 06 14
B38M Engine Low Idle Speed

SI M12 07 14
B38M Shuts Off when Placed into Gear after Cold Engine Start

Both bulletins refer to Coopers with AISIN automatic transmissions.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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Thanks for the info. Does TSB imply a way to fix and/or to prevent? The 2 TSBs don't match the problem described on UK site which occurred at highway speed. I assume the engine was already warmed up in UK's case.

My car is being prepared at the dealership for delivery and I am getting nervous about this.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CMP
sorry, I might have stated that without knowing what type you had... maybe it goes across the board rather than just auto's. just trying to find the issue/solution so no one gets injured out there.
There are a couple of others with manuals in this thread, too, besides myself.

My MA wants me to bring it in, at least to have the issue officially lodged with MINI. They asked if I can reproduce the issue, and I told them "no," but I did describe the set of circumstances that leads to it: driving off from a stop, just as the auto start-stop is trying to suddenly shut down the engine = stalling. It will be a waste of time on my part, but now I'm obliged to bring it in.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Been at the dealers since Saturday morning at 8am. (now Wednesday at 843am)


no word yet when it will be done. have a call in with the service department.




Without knowing what the status is, we just signed up to get a loaner car. 1st loner won't be available until Aug 18th at 10:30. 12 days away. you would think a dealership would have more options...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Hi everyone,

I have had the same problem with my car (automatic) about a month ago, during the first week I had the car. The engine stopped running twice at two different moments, while I was on the highway in the traffic at an average of 30 to 40km/h. Both times I had to put the car in parked position and restart the car...

The second time it happened I went to the Mini car dealer, and the re-programmation wasn't available yet, so they did a quick fix by increasing the idle a little bit so the car does not stall again. This worked because it never happened to me again...

I wonder if I should ask for the re-programmation that is now available or if I should keep it like it is...

Any advise?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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car available for pickup, we pick up tonight after work or tomorrow morning. will update in a week.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Those two TSBs don't really reflect my issues. Both of my stalls happened after the engine was well warmed. (~20 miles of freeway and 15 mins of local driving). Two more days before I take my car to dealer.....
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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Even if the stalling happens AFTER the engine is warmed up, you should still have your selling dealer reflash the ECU. Basically, it's the same fuel mapping issue - not enough fuel to keep the engine running/idling when throttle is not applied.
See what happens after the reflash. Nothing to lose.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Just turn off the auto stop feature, you can do that can't you? Wouldn't that prevent the stalling until they find a fix for it?. When I test drove a new Mini a couple of months ago before I bought my 370Z, I couldn't stand the auto stop feature, I could tell I would have disabled it immediately if I had bought a new Mini.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Benibiker
Just turn off the auto stop feature, you can do that can't you? Wouldn't that prevent the stalling until they find a fix for it?
No, it wouldn't prevent.
This stalling issue has nothing to do with the auto stop/start feature, because engine stalls even when car is still moving (coasting with no throttle) and all the warning lights turn on.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 11:36 PM
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I never liked the trial and error approach of the car manufacturers.If there is a design problem refreshing the ECU won't help. And CAD is not always a good thing.Old fashioned thinking and testing is the real thing.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 12:40 AM
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This is a a fuel mapping setting or programming error somewhat, unfortunately, common in auto and motorcycle industry.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:15 AM
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So yesterday I arrive to work only to find that now I cannot get my car to turn off. Ugh! The only thing I did was pop the trunk. Of course I could not recreate the problem. I added that to the growing list of things wrong with my car when I dropped her at the dealer last night. I'll see if this is related to my other stall problem. I'll let you guys know what the service tech says.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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So the Mini Service Manager confirmed that there is a software update that they received a bulletin on. They will download this and I will have my car back tomorrow afternoon. I assume this download takes awhile as they had access to my car this morning and I will not get my car back till tomorrow afternoon. Unless they are waiting for Mini to send them the update. It's clear they had no idea about this issue. So thanks to everyone that contributes to this forum.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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My MA told me that mine was held at VDC until 7/31 for the software update to fix this stall problem. I will keep my finger crossed but the timeline is about right for the update to trickle down to dealerships.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by laj1211
So the Mini Service Manager confirmed that there is a software update that they received a bulletin on.
Thanks for sharing the info!
 
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