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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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The Sport Suspension is a single mode suspension, indeed with more aggressive springs and dampers. But it is not an adjustable suspension and can not be turned on or off. It is what it is, regardless of the marketing. Firmer springs and damper is what you get for $500. An adjustable suspension, as available from BMW, Porsche, Audi, MB and many others, is considerably more expensive to implement.

Nevertheless, your car looks fantastic!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by polojankins
...the sport button does indeed influence the behavior of the suspension...
Regarding the Sport button (common discussion item), from the manual:

Sport button*
Pressing the button causes your MINI to respond even more sportily.
> Engine responds more spontaneously to movements of the accelerator.
> Steering response is more direct.
> Cooper S: the engine sounds more sporty in coasting mode.

With automatic transmission:
> More rapid gear shifting in Sport program.

That is it.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by polojankins
Not wanting to argue...just wanting to ensure we clarify what it is we're paying for when we add the $500 sport suspension.

According to the Mini site as well as other write-ups about the car, the sport button does indeed influence the behavior of the suspension.

-From the Mini Site
"Those looking for a little extra pick-me-up will love the increased shift points and firmness of sport mode"

-From the Mini Site
"For even more aggressive performance, the sport suspension features even more aggressive springs and dampers."

-From AutoBlog
"The Countryman has a Sport mode that tightens up the steering rack, improves the throttle response and stiffens the suspension to provide a more engaging feel on the road."


Black Mini Countryman with Black Wheels by MWButterfly, on Flickr
The Autoblog is wrong in stating that the Sport button stiffens the suspension.
There is a difference between the Sport Suspension & the Sport Button. The Sport button merely tightens the feel of the steering, changes the shift mapping of the transmission and on the S model, the engine fuel mapping to cause exhaust burble when decelerating.
The Sport Suspension option gives you stiffer springs, dampers and thicker anti-sway bars to give better handling in curves.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 03mini-S
The Autoblog is wrong in stating that the Sport button stiffens the suspension.
There is a difference between the Sport Suspension & the Sport Button. The Sport button merely tightens the feel of the steering, changes the shift mapping of the transmission and on the S model, the engine fuel mapping to cause exhaust burble when decelerating.
The Sport Suspension option gives you stiffer springs, dampers and thicker anti-sway bars to give better handling in curves.
I had to check into this too and found out what the others have said, the sport button does nothing for the suspension itself, with or without the sport suspension package.
Love the Black and Anthracite, mine will be the same, but an S with 18's.
Matthew
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Looks great!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the clarification of the Sport Suspension & Sport Button

Originally Posted by magpullin
I had to check into this too and found out what the others have said, the sport button does nothing for the suspension itself, with or without the sport suspension package.
Love the Black and Anthracite, mine will be the same, but an S with 18's.
Matthew
Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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I really love your car...in fact the only thing that has stopped me from ordering the same exact thing is I am trying to decide if white stripes would add or distract from the whole all-black. Mini sure seems to think it is a negative because they try to make you change to a white roof, yet you can get around it later in the configurator. Deciding on whether to upgrade to cloth seats as well.

I sure wish I could see a black one with stripes! I love the white with the stripes but black is the color that never gets old with me on any car.

Congrats again!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Very nice and a good way to get what you want.

Great pictures, keep us informed on the MPG. I am hoping to get our CM ALL4 up to 32 highway.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jake703
I really love your car...in fact the only thing that has stopped me from ordering the same exact thing is I am trying to decide if white stripes would add or distract from the whole all-black. Mini sure seems to think it is a negative because they try to make you change to a white roof, yet you can get around it later in the configurator. Deciding on whether to upgrade to cloth seats as well.

I sure wish I could see a black one with stripes! I love the white with the stripes but black is the color that never gets old with me on any car.

Congrats again!
Yes, I'm still working on deciding what I'm doing with stripes. I'm thinking matte black on the metallic black with think white outline might be really cool. I'm thinking white stripes would be too much and detract from the overall stealthy look of the black on black on black.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Re: Would white stripes add or distract from the all black look.

Originally Posted by jake703
I really love your car...in fact the only thing that has stopped me from ordering the same exact thing is I am trying to decide if white stripes would add or distract from the whole all-black. Mini sure seems to think it is a negative because they try to make you change to a white roof, yet you can get around it later in the configurator. Deciding on whether to upgrade to cloth seats as well.

I sure wish I could see a black one with stripes! I love the white with the stripes but black is the color that never gets old with me on any car.

Congrats again!
This is the same dilemma I have right now. In fact I have an appointment this friday to have white stripes put on. But after seeing these pics that i took last night...I'm torn. I almost want to back out and leave the car all black. To further cloud my mind, I'm confused between Bonnet Stripes or Sport Stripes.

Here's what i'm using to envision what it might look like:

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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FWIW, I would leave as-is, no stripes. Looks fantastic.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by polojankins
This is the same dilemma I have right now. In fact I have an appointment this friday to have white stripes put on. But after seeing these pics that i took last night...I'm torn. I almost want to back out and leave the car all black. To further cloud my mind, I'm confused between Bonnet Stripes or Sport Stripes.
I am trying to decide also. My favorites have been a red or charcoal carbon fiber in a viper stripe. After seeing a Absolute Black at the dealership though I may just leave as is, it just looks so classy.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Oh I agree it looks fantastic as-is...but I also think that convertible with the black roof and white stripes is really cool and it adds some "mini" to it. I am torn between the two options as well...I really like the way the sport stripes have the cutout for the mini logo. If you go through with it, please post pictures...this stripe decision is killin me.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by polojankins
Its funny you should ask about how I got those wheels.

So here's what happened:

I live in Dallas, but my leasing agent at D& M leasing located this car at a dealership 220 miles away from me in Edmond Oklahoma. (It was equipped the way I wanted it except that it had the Silver wheels) This car had been on their lot for about 3 weeks and was the car that everyone was test driving. Even though it was well equipped no one bought it...mainly they think because it was triple black. (Black Car, Black Top, Black Seats)

So when I was presented the car, I said I'd be interested if and only if the dealer was willing to switch out the silver wheels with the anthracite wheels. The dealer had a silver cooper S on the lot with the anthracite wheels and so he switched them out for me at not charge.

The next day when I went to get the car, the dealer said that there were 3 different people who came in that morning before I got there, asking to buy the black car with black wheels. Unfortunately for them it was already sold!!!

So that was a long winded way of saying I had a couple of things working for me. They didn't think they could sell the black car with black top...and I had my leasing company ready to wire them $27750. So they bit on my request.
Mark, Thanks for the information. I'm glad you got the wheels you wanted. They look perfect. Also JMO but If I had your car I would not put racing stripes on it. Your car looks perfect just as it is. I find the problem with the racing stripes is that they are not as glossy as the paint job and can end up looking pretty rough after being exposed to the elements. That paint is like glass; whoever did the waxing/polishing did an outstanding job!

Thanks,
Mark...AKA Bullydog
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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I know the suspension and button thing was already beat to death and put to bed, but I read this today. It seems like a major sport button performance consideration - so I thought I'd share.

Originally Posted by MINI USA
Plus, on MINI Cooper S Countryman and Cooper S Countryman ALL4 models, the exhaust makes a distinctive “popping’ sound during deceleration.

We almost called it the ‘yyiipppeeee’ button. But all the letters didn’t fit.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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The Miracle of Anthracite

Originally Posted by polojankins
Its funny you should ask about how I got those wheels.
... The dealer had a silver cooper S on the lot with the anthracite wheels and so he switched them out for me at not charge.

The next day when I went to get the car, the dealer said that there were 3 different people who came in that morning before I got there, asking to buy the black car with black wheels. Unfortunately for them it was already sold!!!
The miracle of Anthracite. I wonder how many other cars like it the dealer will be equipping similarly now...

It makes you wonder sometimes just who things up the configuration limits.

Looks great, enjoy!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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The White Stripe Discussion Continues...

I think I've decided to go stripe-less...but here are a few dark colored countryman with white stripes for a point of reference. (Disregard the plump older gentleman in the Speedo)

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Wow...this look really had me until the speedo and now I fear it has ruined stripes for me just from the association.


Actually, no, still undecided. Thanks for finding some shots though!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by polojankins
(Disregard the plump older gentleman in the Speedo)


That is unfortunately an impossibility my friend.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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Pardon my color-challenged eyes - what color is Mr. Speedo's car?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Re: What Color is Mr. Speedo's Car

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Pardon my color-challenged eyes - what color is Mr. Speedo's car?
It is Oxford Green.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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I agree!!

agree!!
Originally Posted by JWA
Looks great. The non-S grill/bumper treatment looks so much better than the frown on the S.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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WOW.... congrats!!! I really like your car.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Polo, I think the car looks great! makes me wonder how the anthracite would on Silver.....
 
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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