R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 Zen and the art of Midlands repair

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-05-2015, 08:53 PM
Sc00terbum's Avatar
Sc00terbum
Sc00terbum is offline
2nd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Joplin Missouri
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Zen and the art of Midlands repair

A week and a half ago I went to leave work and got a weird grinding noise. I pulled over and when I went to pull away again a loud grind and then it wouldn't move.
I had it towed home hoping that the clutch had just blew apart. I tore into it right away and as soon as I pulled the trans, I could see that the clutch was completely intact. That leaves something in the trans..ugh.

I tore into the trans and didn't find anything right off except so much fine metal particles that the oil looked like metallic paint. When I got it completely torn down, it was then that I discovered the issue. Midlands in their infinite wisdom utilized a interference fit ring gear that spun. Now begins the real odyssey.

I call a salvage yard that says they have one in one of their other yards 50 miles away and will ship it in. It comes in, I pay and then I see it and it's a Getrag 6 speed. While I would love to swap, I do not have the other pieces and parts to swap. They tell me that they do not have any others available either.
They get me a quote from an unaffiliated yard for $1800!

I started searching for parts and found a guy from New York that had the parts. New differential, good used 2nd gear slider and synchro for $330, good deal.

Two days of cleaning, replacing and reassembling and I am ready to reinstall. Not super difficult but you have to keep everything clean and take lots of pictures. If anyone wants the fellow's phone number that sold me the parts, let me know. The pictures are in reverse order.

BTW: if you pull the trans, do yourself a huge favor and drop the suspension crossmember first. I looked at the engine compartment after I got it in service mode and thought that there was plenty of room. WRONG! I barely got it out and there was no way it was going back in that way. With the engine on stands it made it so much more difficult to get the suspension down safely. Is it a huge pain in the butt but will save you the trouble on the back end.

























 

Last edited by Sc00terbum; 09-06-2015 at 10:57 AM. Reason: Add content
  #2  
Old 09-05-2015, 09:29 PM
Fly'n Brick's Avatar
Fly'n Brick
Fly'n Brick is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the here and now, for now.
Posts: 4,896
Received 367 Likes on 311 Posts
Fantastic. So, you'll be down to the Springs to show off your success come October?
 
  #3  
Old 09-05-2015, 09:44 PM
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Spencer Roper is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is awesome!
Great post mate!
 
  #4  
Old 09-06-2015, 06:08 AM
Sc00terbum's Avatar
Sc00terbum
Sc00terbum is offline
2nd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Joplin Missouri
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Fly'n Brick
Fantastic. So, you'll be down to the Springs to show off your success come October?
I will be there! I have MITO X to run
 
  #5  
Old 09-07-2015, 03:03 PM
daviday's Avatar
daviday
daviday is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 174
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Tipping my hat to you sir. My midlands failure sounds similar to your experience -except no grinding noises. Came off the clutch at a light, heard a pop and the car wouldn't move. I've been putting off cracking my old one open for sometime now. I really need to get on it. Your thread is my motivation.
 
  #6  
Old 09-10-2015, 07:50 PM
Sc00terbum's Avatar
Sc00terbum
Sc00terbum is offline
2nd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Joplin Missouri
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by daviday
Tipping my hat to you sir. My midlands failure sounds similar to your experience -except no grinding noises. Came off the clutch at a light, heard a pop and the car wouldn't move. I've been putting off cracking my old one open for sometime now. I really need to get on it. Your thread is my motivation.
So glad to be an inspiration. If you have a big flat bench to lay it out, it really isn't all that bad of a job. A split collar bearing puller and a press is a must though.
I did not update after I finished the job: My trans shifts better now than when I bought it.
 
  #7  
Old 09-11-2015, 07:17 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,808
Received 1,966 Likes on 1,766 Posts
Very nice, well done.

There was another trans rebuild thread here also.


 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
USNAE2
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
16
06-17-2022 07:17 AM
bahman
MINIs & Minis for Sale
13
02-14-2016 10:29 AM
wildwestrider
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
11
01-29-2016 05:06 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
10-01-2015 12:13 PM
B1mm3r101
1st Gear
3
10-01-2015 06:22 AM



Quick Reply: R50/53 Zen and the art of Midlands repair



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:31 PM.