Navigation & Audio OEM navigation upgrade-Hopefully a how-to guide.
#26
I've seen evidence both ways. I tend to believe the FSC activation.
One thing is for sure, I've not coded my bluetooth module. The navigation unit has a microphone wire setup on pin 1 & 6(if I'm not mistaken, it's been a few weeks since I last looked). The voice commands on the normal radio went through the bluetooth module first. It's possible that I don't have something hooked up yet, but I've been unable to confirm one way or the other. Either way, the system works as intended. my next 'upgrade' will be the hi-def radio. I've just had other projects that have kept me busy.
One thing is for sure, I've not coded my bluetooth module. The navigation unit has a microphone wire setup on pin 1 & 6(if I'm not mistaken, it's been a few weeks since I last looked). The voice commands on the normal radio went through the bluetooth module first. It's possible that I don't have something hooked up yet, but I've been unable to confirm one way or the other. Either way, the system works as intended. my next 'upgrade' will be the hi-def radio. I've just had other projects that have kept me busy.
#27
I am currently attempting this in a 2013 Mini Clubman with the factory cd boost with sat radio and Bluetooth. Was going to put a Double DIN radio in but liked the Mini Connected look and feel.
I gathered a
a 2012 CCC - Visual boost radio $200 ebay
a 2013 Speedo with screen $125 ebay
a 2013 center console with controls $250 ebay
I ordered the cable that connects the screen to the CCC. WARNING- You need the VIN number for ordering the correct cable- Found out the hard way 4/9/2014
I will take pics and see if it is any easier than the 2009 model. Pics are of the 2013 Speedo and the 2010 speedo. They match and everything works
The last pic is of the 2012 Visual Boost Radio rear connection.
I gathered a
a 2012 CCC - Visual boost radio $200 ebay
a 2013 Speedo with screen $125 ebay
a 2013 center console with controls $250 ebay
I ordered the cable that connects the screen to the CCC. WARNING- You need the VIN number for ordering the correct cable- Found out the hard way 4/9/2014
I will take pics and see if it is any easier than the 2009 model. Pics are of the 2013 Speedo and the 2010 speedo. They match and everything works
The last pic is of the 2012 Visual Boost Radio rear connection.
Last edited by Smoothmove; 05-09-2014 at 12:38 PM. Reason: update
#28
One pic of the OEM stereo wiring harness of the Mini Boost CD with Sirius and Bluetooth.
I am going to find out and take pics of where to add wires if needed.
I am trying to find out how to adapt the wired that I have that are different than the red, yellow and gold connectors.
I am searching for a schematic of what is what.
Also, there is a 2gb MicroSD card in the front- bottom (under the volume ****) of the radio. There is only a 5mb file on it. It has voice prompts and files. I am going to try to find a "NAV" ssd card and see if it is different.
I am going to find out and take pics of where to add wires if needed.
I am trying to find out how to adapt the wired that I have that are different than the red, yellow and gold connectors.
I am searching for a schematic of what is what.
Also, there is a 2gb MicroSD card in the front- bottom (under the volume ****) of the radio. There is only a 5mb file on it. It has voice prompts and files. I am going to try to find a "NAV" ssd card and see if it is different.
Last edited by Smoothmove; 05-07-2014 at 01:40 PM.
#30
Here are pics of the joystick with the 4 pin connectors that Brad wrote of on page 1.
Included is the pic of a 2013 Mini Nav screen connections. According to Mini parts, the cable I bought should be correct and is readily available.
I hope this goes smooth. I think I will have to go to Mini to have them recode the car for the visual boost.
I wonder if Wade is still at Mini of Dallas.
Included is the pic of a 2013 Mini Nav screen connections. According to Mini parts, the cable I bought should be correct and is readily available.
I hope this goes smooth. I think I will have to go to Mini to have them recode the car for the visual boost.
I wonder if Wade is still at Mini of Dallas.
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#31
Joystick Wiring
Look at the connection for the joystick. Looks a lot like a DELL Computer fan connection. Pins are spaced the correct distance. Just modify the 5 pin to a 4 pin and it should fit.
Mini part number unknown. Dell computer fan $5.
One more obstacle down. I am going to Mini today for more info. I want to get this completed in the next week. I don't like my dash apart.
Look at the connection for the joystick. Looks a lot like a DELL Computer fan connection. Pins are spaced the correct distance. Just modify the 5 pin to a 4 pin and it should fit.
Mini part number unknown. Dell computer fan $5.
One more obstacle down. I am going to Mini today for more info. I want to get this completed in the next week. I don't like my dash apart.
#32
I'm not sure, since I parted ways with my JCW, I've not been back. This was his email: CowserW@autonation.com
#33
I found some wiring details which seems to be correct for the radio harness.
Can low and Can high, + and - are there for hookup of the joystick. I am trying to find out what pins go where.
On the monitor screen, there are 8 pins, but I have no idea what they do. Probably going to have to pull it apart and use a multimeter.
Can low and Can high, + and - are there for hookup of the joystick. I am trying to find out what pins go where.
On the monitor screen, there are 8 pins, but I have no idea what they do. Probably going to have to pull it apart and use a multimeter.
#34
@Brad Bedell
Hi, I'm also planning to do a same project to my 09 R56. The biggest question that confusing me is that if the CCC unit store VIN or other car-specific information which need to be activated by FSC?
Or the only coding I need to do is to add VO and reset related modules?
Thanks!
Hi, I'm also planning to do a same project to my 09 R56. The biggest question that confusing me is that if the CCC unit store VIN or other car-specific information which need to be activated by FSC?
Or the only coding I need to do is to add VO and reset related modules?
Thanks!
#35
Once I figure out all of the wiring, I will let you know if it is plug and play(ish).
Mini sells the joystick wiring connector and the four pins- total was $25
As for the monitor cable, there are dozens of changes and different cables for the different screens.
I haven't got the screen wiring nailed down, so I have no idea what messages it is throwing.
The Mini dealers will be less than helpful. The parts dept doesn't have access to a lot of info and the techs are just busy doing part swaps. As for mods, you have to find a "Mini" guy who actually loves the cars.
Mini sells the joystick wiring connector and the four pins- total was $25
As for the monitor cable, there are dozens of changes and different cables for the different screens.
I haven't got the screen wiring nailed down, so I have no idea what messages it is throwing.
The Mini dealers will be less than helpful. The parts dept doesn't have access to a lot of info and the techs are just busy doing part swaps. As for mods, you have to find a "Mini" guy who actually loves the cars.
#36
As per the Bentley manual
Joystick wiring is
Pin 1 to Positive to 10 amp fuse (F23)
Pin 2 to Neg/ground
Pin 3 to Can High splice to radio pin 11 Orangeish
Pin 4 to Can low splice to radio pin 9 Green
The CID- dash display has 8 pins, 4 of which are used. The Bentley's manual lists the old style monitor - pre 2011
The 8 pin connector is the same as the connector for the sport button.
I think I nailed the wiring for the monitor.
Pin 1 to radio pos
pin 3 to radio ground
Pin 5 to can bus high
Pin 6 to can bus low
When I hook it up I get the screen and it blinks if pin 4 and 5 are reversed. The screen is red when radio on. The joystick lights up with parking lights, but doesn't control anything.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Joystick wiring is
Pin 1 to Positive to 10 amp fuse (F23)
Pin 2 to Neg/ground
Pin 3 to Can High splice to radio pin 11 Orangeish
Pin 4 to Can low splice to radio pin 9 Green
The CID- dash display has 8 pins, 4 of which are used. The Bentley's manual lists the old style monitor - pre 2011
The 8 pin connector is the same as the connector for the sport button.
I think I nailed the wiring for the monitor.
Pin 1 to radio pos
pin 3 to radio ground
Pin 5 to can bus high
Pin 6 to can bus low
When I hook it up I get the screen and it blinks if pin 4 and 5 are reversed. The screen is red when radio on. The joystick lights up with parking lights, but doesn't control anything.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Last edited by Smoothmove; 06-02-2014 at 09:45 AM. Reason: Updates
#37
#38
OK, more progress. I bought a dash harness and reverse engineered it. Got the wiring nailed down and good. I have not coded the car yet.
I got it to work !!! The Mini Visual Boost comes up, joystick works and the car communicates with the radio and reads all info.
OBSERVATIONS:
BLUETOOTH DOES NOT WORK, I don't know if the module needs to be recoded
USB does not work, doesn't recognize iphone or charge
AM/FM works Fine
Satellite Radio does not read an ESN for the radio -- ?????
Steering wheel controls WORK Fine
CD Works Fine
If anyone would know, please chime in.
ALSO. Does anyone know what the "UNKNOWNs" are on the rear of the radio would connect to? PIC included
Thanks, Stan
I got it to work !!! The Mini Visual Boost comes up, joystick works and the car communicates with the radio and reads all info.
OBSERVATIONS:
BLUETOOTH DOES NOT WORK, I don't know if the module needs to be recoded
USB does not work, doesn't recognize iphone or charge
AM/FM works Fine
Satellite Radio does not read an ESN for the radio -- ?????
Steering wheel controls WORK Fine
CD Works Fine
If anyone would know, please chime in.
ALSO. Does anyone know what the "UNKNOWNs" are on the rear of the radio would connect to? PIC included
Thanks, Stan
Last edited by Smoothmove; 05-28-2014 at 05:46 PM. Reason: spelling
#39
It looks like the right mini coaxial connecter would be used for the GPS puck to connect to. I can't tell but it should be a screw on type. The other coaxial push on adapter, maybe for the Sirus/XM?
Electronic Serial Number (ESN) Is there an additional module for Sat Radio? Perhaps that left side co-ax is the cabeling between the screen and the sat radio box.
USB inop- You have the correct cable? Is the soft/firmware up to date? maybe when the system gets coded into the Mini it will work?
Electronic Serial Number (ESN) Is there an additional module for Sat Radio? Perhaps that left side co-ax is the cabeling between the screen and the sat radio box.
USB inop- You have the correct cable? Is the soft/firmware up to date? maybe when the system gets coded into the Mini it will work?
#40
Update: From what I figured out
I think the beige connector is the nav/gps antenna?
There are also two fiber optic cables leading from the radio which I have no idea what it goes to.
Questions:
Does the 2013 /2012 R5x have a Bluetooth module or is it built in the radio?
The USB on the Visual Boost radio will not read, even when using the factory lines. I think it may be programming.
I have yet to code it. I have a call to a BMW/MINI shop that may help with the coding. I don't know of anyone else local
I think the beige connector is the nav/gps antenna?
There are also two fiber optic cables leading from the radio which I have no idea what it goes to.
Questions:
Does the 2013 /2012 R5x have a Bluetooth module or is it built in the radio?
The USB on the Visual Boost radio will not read, even when using the factory lines. I think it may be programming.
I have yet to code it. I have a call to a BMW/MINI shop that may help with the coding. I don't know of anyone else local
#42
Looking at color coding, the GPS puck would be on the pink connector. maybe there is a USB conenction between the display and the radio?
If you got a Visual Boost radio, then there is no navigation. I am thinking. Are you trying for Navigation or just the display?
If you got a Visual Boost radio, then there is no navigation. I am thinking. Are you trying for Navigation or just the display?
Last edited by Thompyt; 05-29-2014 at 12:33 PM.
#43
I figured out the radio connectors minus the one. Here is a comparison of the original 2013 Boost CD radio from my car and a 2013 Mini NAV radio. Third radio is a 2011 with Visual Boost.
The radio itself is the same. Same Manufacturer- Alpine. Just a software patch to activate the nav. I don't want the nav, just Mini Visual Boost with Connected.
The connectors pink, black and white are self explanatory.
The radio itself is the same. Same Manufacturer- Alpine. Just a software patch to activate the nav. I don't want the nav, just Mini Visual Boost with Connected.
The connectors pink, black and white are self explanatory.
#44
I was looking at the radio fronts in the fiche. The difference is the wording Visual Boost and Navigation. I couldn't see the back connectors. Software patch for NAV? Interesting. Seems there is only a 2-300 difference between them for cost (new). Only....
It appears the radio comes with a bluetooth module in it. So there might be a link missing between the radio/screen/mic. Maybe the last connection is the microphone?
Thanks
Now to cheaply find some parts myself. Ebay isn't too conducive.
It appears the radio comes with a bluetooth module in it. So there might be a link missing between the radio/screen/mic. Maybe the last connection is the microphone?
Thanks
Now to cheaply find some parts myself. Ebay isn't too conducive.
#47
#48
Took it to Mini of Plano to try to get it coded by the Mini dealer. They say ok but it is $150- DEAL.
The tech hooks up my car but is unable to recode the modules / Visual Boost Radio to a different VIN (between Radio and Car). He had shown me that the option is "greyed" out and not an option using his software. He wasn't using NCS.
I may have someone who can code it remotely and if successful, I will post it.
The tech hooks up my car but is unable to recode the modules / Visual Boost Radio to a different VIN (between Radio and Car). He had shown me that the option is "greyed" out and not an option using his software. He wasn't using NCS.
I may have someone who can code it remotely and if successful, I will post it.
#49
Took it to Mini of Plano to try to get it coded by the Mini dealer. They say ok but it is $150- DEAL.
The tech hooks up my car but is unable to recode the modules / Visual Boost Radio to a different VIN (between Radio and Car). He had shown me that the option is "greyed" out and not an option using his software. He wasn't using NCS.
I may have someone who can code it remotely and if successful, I will post it.
The tech hooks up my car but is unable to recode the modules / Visual Boost Radio to a different VIN (between Radio and Car). He had shown me that the option is "greyed" out and not an option using his software. He wasn't using NCS.
I may have someone who can code it remotely and if successful, I will post it.
#50