Adding coilover springs to Koni yellows?
 

Howdy,

There's a bunch of reasons I want to keep my Koni yellows: they're quality parts, I don't have the $ for Bilstien's, I'm not smart enough to tune a suspension that has too many variables (rebound/damping, etc.). The problem is that I need more camber. Stock-sized springs only allow for -2.2 or a bit more.

Is there a way to get coilover springs over the Konis? I know that Ground Effects does this kind of thing for just about every car BUT Mini. Does Koni sell their coilover springs? Any other ideas?

Thanks

:confused: you say you're "not smart enough" for bound/rebound
adjustments but then want camber adjustability? and you need
more than -2.2?

:eek: hummmmm...:lol: :wink:

how about you keep the Koni's, get -2.2 and play with your simultaneous
bound/rebound knob and also your rear swaybar?

he said he is not smart enough to do that:lol: You can get any sport springs with those shocks:thumbsup:

come to think of it, yellows are only rebound adjustable so
it's even simpler, i suppose. :lol:

Unfortunately the lower spring perch on the Koni yellow fronts will not allow fitment of a conventional coil spring for adjustable height struts which would give you a smaller spring diameter spring choice. As far as I know you’re stuck with wider barrel shaped springs on the front.

Could you show an example/link of a Ground Effects conversion for another vehicle?

Ground Control DOES make a kit for the MINI.

I had one on my car a for a short while.

Coilover kit or spring/perch conversion? Please share a link. Don’t forget he’s asking for a suitable spring or work-around for the lower perch on the Konis; be specific.

The standard cup kit they offer for every other car out there.

bolt on for the rear, you have to knock off the front lower perch, then the threaded body slides over.

its basically the same kit for every car.

Front Konis: I did this with a ring tig welded on ( careful not too much heat) and a threaded sleeve added. I have been running these for the last year. I used H Sport camber plates and 2.5 " springs. Rear Konis are easier and straight forward.

Nope, not any more. I called a couple months ago asking about some springs I wanted for altering my Megans. At some point in the conversation I mentioned that I was sure I once saw a MINI-specific coilover sleeve kit on their site, and I was told that they did have a kit but there were too many issues with the MINI and they gave up on it.

Ok. First thing is that I meant Ground Control not Ground effect. D'Oh!

I feel dopier than usual, but I decided to check their site one more time and found these:

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/gc2040-01

Now I just have to figure out is they'll work with the Konis, I guess.

Also, despite going almost full hard up front with bar/konis and full soft in the back with bar/konis, I still get snap oversteer. I'm hoping that more camber will help. Adjusting rebound is a variable I just don't feel I need to goof around with right now.

These should work but you will have to weld on some rings to function as stops for the threaded sleeves. See pictures in my earlier post in this thread and also the picture below'

Awesome! Just out of curiosity, how much camber can you get out of that setup? My goal is -3 in front, -2.6 in back.

I am running -2.7 in front but can get -3

There are at least 3 sites ive visited that still carry the mini kit.

That's good news.....I just wonder why the guy told me they stopped offering stuff for MINIs. :confused:

I asked him about the kit because I'd once seen it on their site as something you could buy directly from them but then it disappeared. They must be selling this particular kit through vendors/distributors only. At least they're still making it. :)

Koni has a service center you could call at 859-586-4100 to see if they could set this up for you.

Its not a realy nice kit, like a real set of coil overs.

I never really liked Cup kits, but for the money you cant really beat it.

If it does the trick I don't mind if it looks like the dog's breakfast.:wink: There are "real coilovers" that look cool but are either substandard in performance or durability. Read the thread (Obehave?) on the ultra-expensive Moton fiasco.

Bringing the thread back from the dead. What did you end up doing veni vedi vici? I would love to use 2.5" springs with my koni yellows also, but not sure about welding stuff onto them (void warranty?)

edit: after re-reading guess welding is unavoidable.. Has anyone else done this since?

Any pictures of koni yellows before spring seat was removed?

Warning.

If you are going to weld anything on a Koni Yellow shock, make sure you drain the fluid first.

I was told by Koni, something to do with the fluid.

Victor

No need to drain fluid. Use a tig welder and weld carefully it in 4 places see my earlier photos in this thread.

Sorry no pictures of the Koni's before the stock spring seats were removed. By the way these are easily removed by a sharp blow from a hammer.

I am not an expert......

But I was told that the fluid does not tolerate the electricity running thru the shock while welding with mig or tig.

Victor

Unfortunately I never did try the above. Its still on the table, though.