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Andrew Riley 09-08-2022 03:51 PM

Bilstein Shocks Arrived w/ 1 Loose Spring Seat
 
So yesterday the shocks were on my porch when I got home, box was a bit damaged. Didn't inspect everything at the time. Today I opened all the shocks to get them ready for the weekend wrench turning, and to my disappointment one the front shocks has a loose spring seat (?) and bent brake line clamp (no biggie IMO). Is this a serious problem? Does this spring seat being loose signify any major damage or am I okay to just tap it back into place and straighten the clip out?


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Could they be internally damaged? They all compress with roughly the same amount of force - pushing the piston against the ground is the only test I know of. Really want the suspension back together this weekend, but if you all think it's a bad idea then I'll wait until a replacement set comes in.

Just want the advice of my fellow NAM'ers. TIA 😊

NC TRACKRAT 09-08-2022 06:22 PM

IMHO, don't touch it. I'd file a claim with the shipper. If you try to reattach the spring seat and it fails, you're going to incur some real serious damage, not to mention your warranty with Bilstein will not be honored. I once got a shipment of KONI's and, not because of the shipper, one of the perches, like yours, was detached. KONI sent me a new one.

dmath 09-08-2022 06:31 PM

@NC TRACKRAT is right. I would only add that I would call the vendor to see what, if anything, they might do.

In the last couple of years, I've bought a set of coilovers and a set of shocks (two different cars) and both times was surprised at the packaging. I guess it's cheaper for them to replace items once in a while than to spend more time and money packing well.

Andrew Riley 09-08-2022 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by dmath (Post 4632386)
@NC TRACKRAT is right. I would only add that I would call the vendor to see what, if anything, they might do. In the last couple of years, I've bought a set of coilovers and a set of shocks (two different cars) and both times was surprised at the packaging. I guess it's cheaper for them to replace items once in a while than to spend more time and money packing well.

Agreed, 100%. The lack of packing was pathetic. Don't get me wrong, there was almost 50 yards of packing paper in the box, it was just compressed on the top and bottom. Main problem was no packing inside each individual strut box and the bracket for the brake line punctured straight through its box.


Originally Posted by NC TRACKRAT (Post 4632385)
IMHO, don't touch it. I'd file a claim with the shipper. If you try to reattach the spring seat and it fails, you're going to incur some real serious damage, not to mention your warranty with Bilstein will not be honored. I once got a shipment of KONI's and, not because of the shipper, one of the perches, like yours, was detached. KONI sent me a new one.

Claim filed... 😮‍💨
My R53 has been waiting on these for 2 weeks now, guess we're going to have to wait another week. I was hesitant about installing it, for the reasons you mentioned most of all. Sure it's "damaged", but will it function to it's full capacity? That was the head scratcher.

PERCHES!💡

Now that I know what that piece is I'm able to do a proper search... being the optimistic type I am, I found this thread with same situation. 🤷‍♂️

Andrew Riley 09-19-2022 01:44 PM

Well, since the last post I've been going back and forth with the seller (through Amazon) and have had no luck. Sent the springs back and they've apparently shipped me a proper front left strut, without my knowledge.

Anyways... I was browsing @ECSTuning and found a pair of scratch and dent Solo Werks coilovers for only ~$100 more than what I paid for the Bilstein B4s. I couldn't pass it up.

I haven't been able to find much info on SoloWerks coilovers on MINIs but BMW and Audi owners seem to like them. No dampening settings, but they're going on a daily driver. Couldn't be more excited, new springs, struts, and shocks. Way better route than Bilstein B4s IMO, but time will tell.

Now, I'm just curious about what I need to get most out of the coilovers... Rear sway bar upgrade for sure. Maybe spacers as I'm currently running an 18x7.5 wheel? I don't believe the SoloWerks have mounting strut bearings, so Lemfoeders are ready to install along with Craven STDs. Guess I can return the Power Flex strut bushings and boots, so extra $75 there.
Hmm, thoughts and suggestions? 🤔
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

deepgrey 09-19-2022 03:05 PM

I’m guessing those coilovers won’t sit at stock height, so you’ll probably want adjustable lower rear control arms if you don’t already have them.

Andrew Riley 09-19-2022 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by deepgrey (Post 4633117)
I’m guessing those coilovers won’t sit at stock height, so you’ll probably want adjustable lower rear control arms if you don’t already have them.

I believe you're correct. They state a drop of:
  • Front 20mm-50mm (.8-2.0) Lowering Range
  • Rear 20mm-50mm (.8-2.0) Lowering Range

You're spot-on, I do not already have any adjustable rear control arms... Have any suggestions for a decent (daily driver) pair under $200? I was just looking at Mevotech or God Speed.
Edit: The 20mm drop can't be too much of a difference than my old, saggy stock springs with 150k miles on them, I wouldn't think. Just a thought, still going with the adjustable RCAs, can't beat dialing in the ride just right. 😉

deepgrey 09-20-2022 07:15 AM

I only have experience with the M7 arms, but they’ve gone up in price since I bought them. People also recommended the Hotchkis arms at the time I changed mine.

ECSTuning 09-20-2022 10:41 AM

I have the godspeeds on both my MINIs, they are painted red and work. Quality is good. They are not the quality of M7 Speed or Hotchkis.

Add some anti seize on the threads no matter what you buy so down the road they dont seize up.

You get a bunch of road grim and water back there from the spray.

Andrew Riley 09-20-2022 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4633186)
I have the godspeeds on both my MINIs, they are painted red and work. Quality is good. They are not the quality of M7 Speed or Hotchkis.

Add some anti seize on the threads no matter what you buy so down the road they dont seize up.

You get a bunch of road grim and water back there from the spray.

@ECSTuning I was looking at the God Speeds on your site, unfortunately they won't ship until September 27th...

ECSTuning 09-20-2022 01:51 PM

Yep, they are so popular they are backed up on things. Thats about 7 days away. Otherwise if you cant wait you can go with the MINI known brands.


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