Originally Posted by steve20607
(Post 3150867)
The probability of another pump going out so fast with so many being re-installed is questionably high.
I would suspect that there's a grounding problem somewhere, a nicked wire or loose wire along the pathway of the pump's system. The mechanic(s) may have accidently done so or the car itself was causing the possible rub or short (thru vibrations, normal driving). Check the fuse box, look for corrosion, maybe even if you don't see it, clean it out anyways with good electric automotive stuff. Check to see if by remote chance, somehow the wrong AMP fuse was put in. |
Originally Posted by u68423
(Post 3150933)
Steve thank you. I am getting a rebuilt pump sent out once again. BBA Remanufacturing did suggest that something is causing these pumps to short out one 8 hrs the other 10 days. Last night when I got home after shutting the car off and the pump still running I turned the wheel and my driving lights came on as I turned it left and right they were dim but did come on not sure if this has anything to do with the pumps failing or not. My driving lights are aftermarket halo's with the blinker bulb in the middle, have had them in for 2 yrs now. :roll:
It's like buying a starter (or anything electrical) for a car but something keeps blowing it out, the first few times they will feel obligated, but if it's a regular thing, they may put their foot down. Their options is to give you your money back and either tell you sorry but you're going to have to go with a brand new one or try to find another seller. It's nothing against you or your car, it's just now another business decision on their part. G/L |
Originally Posted by steve20607
(Post 3151313)
Just be careful, as there's a slight possibility BBA may stop giving you replacements until the possibility of the car's electrical short source is resolved.
It's like buying a starter (or anything electrical) for a car but something keeps blowing it out, the first few times they will feel obligated, but if it's a regular thing, they may put their foot down. Their options is to give you your money back and either tell you sorry but you're going to have to go with a brand new one or try to find another seller. It's nothing against you or your car, it's just now another business decision on their part. G/L |
Originally Posted by u68423
(Post 3138782)
Please everyone that has in issue call 1-888-327-4236 to file a report takes 10 minutes and if they recall you will get some cash, or a new pump :thumbsup:
This is a safety issue that should concern all MINI owners. |
Originally Posted by 05Greenie
(Post 3151867)
I just registered my complaint at the above number....your right. it opnly thakes 10-15 minutes to answer a few questions.
This is a safety issue that should concern all MINI owners. |
Well I added my complaint to NHTSA list and called MINI and filed a complaint that way. I have no choice but to get it fixed. I am going to do it at the dealer so I have a little more leverage to get it covered by MINI corporate.
I had both the power steering cutting out issue (almost crashed into the overpass) and when I limped it home the pump stay on and drained my battery. Pretty ridiculous that they haven't recalled this |
I stickied this thread and edited the first post. Hopefully we can have our NAM community give the complaints one big push so MINI will finally acknowledge the problem.
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Thank you Mr CooperS , I finaly bought a pump from BMW of Westchester they are real cool people to deal with and gave me a fair price as the pump cost has gone down to about $400.00 think BMW is telling us something :wink:
Anyway it will be put on the car maniana by a mini tech and friend the pump has a 2 yr unlimited miles warranty and should it fail they will replace and cover the cost of the labor for install. If you live close to White Plains NY I recommend you call them. Also had a diagnostic done on my car @ Prestige Mini no problems found fair labor rate of $80.00 hour for 2005 and below yrs. BBA is refunding me my money as I did not want to go through more pumps sure no fault of their's it's a tricky electronic device. Let's push this for a recall. |
Big question for a recall is if BMW actually has a steering pump that won't fail. If all they have is the same type pump then the best we could hope for would be an extended warranty to cover the replacement costs when the pump wears out and stops working. I'm very tempted to pull my pump with 57k miles on it for a cleaning and inspection to see if there is something I can do to prevent future failure.
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Not that it really matters anymore, My 04MCS had been to the local dealer 2 times for steering issues ( if memory serves me correctly ) we have had 7 MINIS so the problems all seem to run to geather at times...
Anyway, back in 06 after being told " no problem found " each time, the problem was found.. I was on my way back from AMVIV. Heading down the extreamly twisty fun road to the Hoover Dam, going around one of the 180deg plus turns to the left... 1/2 way in the turn, out went the power steering.. came with in inches of doing a header into a retaining wall.. It was all I could do to keep contol of the car.. only the fact that I am a fairly strong guy, I was able to turn the car... If it had been " most girls, or strength challanged guys " ( please, no offence to either group-just for point sake here ) the car would have been in the wall.. Drove the rest of the way home with no problem, and now power steering. Which isnt a problem at speed, just like driving my old 57 Chevy back in the day... and the dealer this time said, gee there was a problem.. Thanks barney, now put back your bullet. I know longer have the car, but my neighbor does... |
awesome!
Just purchased the car last Friday and start hearing a loud whining today :-/ Check things out and blamo! http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/...369db319_b.jpg the P/S reservoir is currently full and power steering continues to work, but i'm not sure for how much longer. edit: should post that the car is at 78k miles on it currently |
2006s are not immune. Add mine to the list of pump failures... :sad:
2006 R53 61,245 miles 09/19/2006 In-Service Date The pump had been growing increasingly louder over the last few months and I brought it to the attention of the dealer on my last few service appointments (all but the last trip was while I was still under warranty). I was driving home from work (a 34 mile commute) and was getting off of the interstate. Complete power steering failure as I was coming to a stop at the top of the exit ramp (35 mph > 0). No issues controlling the car, though it was a bit unsettling especially since the road was snow covered. I'm old enough to have owned cars without power steering, so I immediately knew what was going on. I called MINI and they will not do anything until the car is at a dealer. I asked them point blank if I would be wasting my time, but they lead me to believe that there might be some possible relief for me since I have documented concerns and my car is only recently out of warranty. I also filed a report on the NHTSA website to get it on record. The car goes into Classic MINI tomorrow morning, though I'm not holding my breath... |
I smell a great class action suit on the horizon :thumbsup:
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I'm interested in learning the outcome of your situation. I'm about to purchase an 03 Cooper S and while backing it out for a test drive, I THOUGHT I heard the power steering whining sound for a split second. It has 85k miles, so I guess I should plan and put the $$$ away to pay for a new p/s pump and cooling fan installation. Does anyone know what makes them fail???
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Originally Posted by 03M1N1
(Post 3175308)
I'm interested in learning the outcome of your situation. I'm about to purchase an 03 Cooper S and while backing it out for a test drive, I THOUGHT I heard the power steering whining sound for a split second. It has 85k miles, so I guess I should plan and put the $$$ away to pay for a new p/s pump and cooling fan installation. Does anyone know what makes them fail???
All this to say, it could/will continue to operate fine for a long time after it starts whining. When I commented to my Mini mechanic that I thought after 100 years, we'd know how to build a car, he said that "everything is cheap now-a-days" (low quality components) |
Originally Posted by 03M1N1
(Post 3175308)
I'm interested in learning the outcome of your situation. I'm about to purchase an 03 Cooper S and while backing it out for a test drive, I THOUGHT I heard the power steering whining sound for a split second. It has 85k miles, so I guess I should plan and put the $$$ away to pay for a new p/s pump and cooling fan installation. Does anyone know what makes them fail???
Power steering fans either get gummed up and die or take a hit and get damaged, both because of poor design and location. They are about $180 for the part and the install is very easy. I was quoted $980 + tax to replace the power steering pump when it was just noisy. If MINI works with me on the cost, then fine it's all good. If they do not give me any relief, I am going to buy a ZF unit on ebay for $445 and install it myself - then I am go to get rid of the damn car immediately! |
Originally Posted by Mynewt
(Post 3175318)
My '03 R50 has had a whiny PS pump since before I got it, but still works reliably. I've had the car since June (about 5 1/2 months) and have put a little over 15,000 miles on it (It's at 60,000 miles now)
All this to say, it could/will continue to operate fine for a long time after it starts whining. When I commented to my Mini mechanic that I thought after 100 years, we'd know how to build a car, he said that "everything is cheap now-a-days" (low quality components) |
Originally Posted by lumpy
(Post 3175322)
Low speed goes out on the radiator cooling fan. It is a wiring/resistor thing from what I understand. Mine went out right after my warranty ran out this summer (of course). The dealer quoted me $730 + tax to fix. I sourced an aftermarket part for $78 shipped and fixed it in a few hours
Power steering fans either get gummed up and die or take a hit and get damaged, both because of poor design and location. They are about $180 for the part and the install is very easy. I was quoted $980 + tax to replace the power steering pump when it was just noisy. If MINI works with me on the cost, then fine it's all good. If they do not give me any relief, I am going to buy a ZF unit on ebay for $445 and install it myself - then I am go to get rid of the damn car immediately! A replacement engine for that particular brand of SUV costs $7800, and it will fail again. I'm hoping that if I maintain and care for my "new" Mini, I won't see any service bills or design flaws like that anymore. Geeeez...... :eek: |
I looked at the list of Stock Problems / Issues. Other than the power steering, are there any other BIG failures or "gotchas" I should look for? The winter season is here in the Northeast. :confused: I'd really like to turn the key and cruise (with 2.5k mile stops for service of course.....)
I have a 6 speed manual, so I guess the CVT and 5 speed transmission flaws won't affect me. :thumbsup: The door locks were failed when I test drove the car (had them repaired by selling dealer already). :thumbsup: Anything else??? :sad: Thanks! |
ordered a new pump from waymotorworks just now :-(
my fan is working fine on the car, so for now, it stays. plan on replacing it and adding the fan ducting in a month or so |
I just had my pump replaced today. It ended up being right at $660 to replace with labor, new hoses, and new fluid @ Rasmussen MINI. Plus I got to drive a 2010 Cooper S for a couple of days. Could have been worse I guess.
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My 05 MCS has been sitting in my garage few weeks already with the battery disconnected to prevent drain out the battery again. Got exactly the same problem same the owner of this thread, found battery drained with load noise after engine turned off. Tried pulled every fuse to see if give any hint and found nothing. Now mostly due to the PS pump looks like.
So have it replaced by dealer will cost ~ $660? Not sure if I should bring the car in now to have it checked and fixed, since was waiting for the recall, but friend told me may take like year to finalize their investigation. Any suggestion to me? should I bring to dealer now? Thx. |
my local dealer quoted me $1050 to replace the pump and fan.
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Originally Posted by fs-mini
(Post 3175695)
My 05 MCS has been sitting in my garage few weeks already with the battery disconnected to prevent drain out the battery again. Got exactly the same problem same the owner of this thread, found battery drained with load noise after engine turned off. Tried pulled every fuse to see if give any hint and found nothing. Now mostly due to the PS pump looks like.
So have it replaced by dealer will cost ~ $660? Not sure if I should bring the car in now to have it checked and fixed, since was waiting for the recall, but friend told me may take like year to finalize their investigation. Any suggestion to me? should I bring to dealer now? Thx. |
Originally Posted by ocbaud
(Post 3175709)
my local dealer quoted me $1050 to replace the pump and fan.
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