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teamrubixcube 03-01-2010 01:45 PM

New muffler?
 
Okay, so I haven't posted on here in quite some time now. I've been student teaching and it's been completely consuming my life. However, after I got home from school today I did a little walk around my car (I stare at it a lot :) ) and I noticed that my muffler is starting to rust a bit. It's not exactly problematic at the current state but by the end of this crazy winter it may need replacing.

So here's my question: What do you experienced MINI owners suggest?

Being a senior college student student teaching I don't exactly have a lot of $$ to blow on a new exhaust at the moment (although I would LOVE to upgrade form stock) so is it possible to just get an aftermarket muffler to fit? I have an '05 r50 which from my understanding only the muffler isn't stainless.....meaning the rest of the exhaust should be fine.

I know you get what you pay for, but would something even like this link up nicely? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mini-...ht_3947wt_1082

Thank you much and happy motoring!

rsvp9146 03-01-2010 03:18 PM

There's a lot of variables here. Simply put, without addressing the diameter of the exhaust tubing going to the manifold, it will likely just make the car louder if you replace the muffler.

Exhausts need a certain amount of backpressure for the car to run correctly, and there is a sort of black art to exhaust fabrication. If you are concerned about rust damaging the muffler on there, you can remove the muffler, hit it with a wire wheel, patch up any holes (JB Weld works wonders on mufflers) and spray it with a good rust inhibitive paint. You can always buy a stainless steel tip to put on the stock muffler as well, or better yet, fabricate one of your own.

Eric_Rowland 03-01-2010 09:36 PM

I would check around for local MINI clubs - odds are some enthusiast has replaced their OEM system and you could get the catback for a song.

Bigshot 03-02-2010 07:58 AM

Yes, you could just replace the muffler with an aftermarket one. Just find a good exhaust shop and talk to them about what you want.

daewoni 03-02-2010 12:47 PM

If you don't hear a very loud noise out of your muffler, you don't need to replace it even after this winter.
Mine rusted out but it was just an outer shell which covers the inner muffler safe. Last fall, outer shell came off completely and it still makes same noise as it did before and works completely OK.

If you don't like current one and really want to replace it, go ahead.
If you want to save your money, don't replace it.

My 2 cents.

lotsie 03-02-2010 01:38 PM

I installed a Megan on my 03 justa about a year ago.

Old one was rusted out;
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WZVDyajOIB0/S1...Mods%20001.JPG

Hangers were also rusted, so I had it wired up before swapping for a few weeks;
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_WZVDyajOIB0/S1...Mods%20002.JPG

New Megan installed. It's not a quiet exhaust. But I like it. Got mine from http://www.waymotorworks.com/
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WZVDyajOIB0/S1...Mods%20004.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_WZVDyajOIB0/S1...Mods%20005.JPG

Mark

Crashton 03-02-2010 02:16 PM

Nice looking muffler Mark.:thumbsup:

It appears that what is rusting on the R50 mufflers is a heat shield. I've seen a couple that looked like yours Mark.

To the OP don't put that fart pipe on your MINI.:eek: Either find a takeoff stock exhaust or spring for a Megan.

lotsie 03-02-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Crashton (Post 2995981)
Nice looking muffler Mark.:thumbsup:

It appears that what is rusting on the R50 mufflers is a heat shield. I've seen a couple that looked like yours Mark.

To the OP don't put that fart pipe on your MINI.:eek: Either find a takeoff stock exhaust or spring for a Megan.

Thanks. The install was not bad, except for a few rusted bolts on the mid-hanger. Snapped 2 off, rather then try and extract them, I just used self tapping screws right next to them.

The OEM muffler comes apart like an onion, in layers. As you can see, those hangers rusted right off.

The Megan was $380. Get the Way/DDM intake, and your Justa will roar:thumbsup:

Mark

-=gRaY rAvEn=- 03-02-2010 02:39 PM

Noooooooo !
 
I agree, I wouldnt put this in http://massmotoringclub.com/Smileys/...palmsmiley.gif http://massmotoringclub.com/Smileys/default/puke.gif

http://www.racing-gears.com/racingge...r/MU30213E.jpg


You may end up with unwanted issues. Get an exhaust specifically designed for your MINI. These cars are a bit more complicated than others who can use them.

And I would hate to see you incurr some huge repair bills later on for the sake of saving a few dollars now.

First thing I would do if $ was an issue - maybe look into finding an original exhaust that was take off by someone upgrading to an aftermarket one. You could post a want ad here in NAM Marketplace. Wayland, at Waymotorworks may even have one laying around.

Second option would be to purchase a JCW Sport Exhaust from a dealer.
I bet if you called Morristown MINI, you may get a good price there. They seem to have the lowest prices on OEM parts.

Sports tailpipeJ. COOPER WORKS118100399689$592.28

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/w/j/257.png

Nice thing about it is. If you plan on keeping your MINI for a long time, you can upgrade to other JCW parts to enhance the performance gains from these parts. Additionally, if you plan on selling your MINI someday, folks may not shy away from it due to you having installed weird name brands of upgraded parts, some of which are difficult to remove.


Good luck.

teamrubixcube 03-03-2010 12:54 PM

Thanks everyone! I'm going to leave it alone for the time being if it's just the heat shield and I already have a tentative long-term sub job for a lady on maternity leave for May into June. With a little $ from that I'd much rather spend money on a JCW exhaust or Megan than pay off student loans :razz:.

Thanks again!

lotsie 03-03-2010 02:55 PM

Keep a close watch though, if those top hangers rust off, like mine did, it will be dragging on the ground.

Mark

veggivet 03-04-2010 09:11 AM

I have one for sale (cheap!) that came off my 02 R50. Only saw one winter, and then limited rain since then. I'd like it to go to a good home, and I'm not far from Northern CT. PM me or check the Marketplace. Ad was just placed yesterday.


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