R56 Thermostat Housing replacement covered under emisions warranty
Your milage may vary, but after buying the housing (a couple of months ago) and not getting around to getting it installed yet (I've been watching the coolant level like a hawk), I did a read of posts here earlier this month and someone had reported their replacement was covered under the emissions warranty (something like 7 years and 70K miles I think).
So I was at the dealer Saturday getting my $25 gift card to entice me to come in so they could try to sell me a new Mini -- they didn't even pitch me, I walked freely around for 20+ minutes looking at various cars and not nary a sales person came up to me -- so I walked in and asked about the promo and they just had me fill out name, address, phone, and gave me the gift card. On my way out, I stopped by the service area and mentioned I heard the thermostat might be an emmissions warranty repair. They asked my milage (54K), looked up my vehicle in their system, and said "yep, it's a warranty repair, when do you want to come in?". So the appt will be end of next week. Bottom line, check with your dealer... P.S. Anyone want to buy an unused part? I'll make you a good deal :wink: P.S.S. I had errands to do at a store 1/2 mile from the dealer, so going there was no big deal. Looking at the cars made me once again realize I like my Mini -- more than anything I saw except the GP JCW, but that was a 40K sticker that I certainly don't see in the cards. |
First post for me and signed up just to comment, lol. I was at the dealer on Friday to pick up a R56 Thermostat Housing. Parts guy told me to check with service to make sure they wouldnt cover it, sooooo... i walk over to service, gave them my key so they could pull up all my info. They asked me how many miles I had on it and i stated "54700" and they said it wasnt covered. I would be seriously upset if I just spent a afternoon replacing it and paying for the part myself to find out its covered. Can you just confirm? Please lol. Before I go raise Holy Hell with my dealer, lol.
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Originally Posted by RAS_Houston
(Post 3770436)
First post for me and signed up just to comment, lol. I was at the dealer on Friday to pick up a R56 Thermostat Housing. Parts guy told me to check with service to make sure they wouldnt cover it, sooooo... i walk over to service, gave them my key so they could pull up all my info. They asked me how many miles I had on it and i stated "54700" and they said it wasnt covered. I would be seriously upset if I just spent a afternoon replacing it and paying for the part myself to find out its covered. Can you just confirm? Please lol. Before I go raise Holy Hell with my dealer, lol.
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Originally Posted by Sidewalksam
(Post 3770453)
Emissions waranty is 8years/80K. As I recall this is Federal law and applies to all car make and models.
Understood. Im just wondering if indeed the Thermostat Housing is covered in the emissions warranty. I have one dealership telling me no, and he's stating its covered. All is good! Should be a pretty interesting morning phone call or visit :mad: |
Originally Posted by RAS_Houston
(Post 3770471)
Understood. Im just wondering if indeed the Thermostat Housing is covered in the emissions warranty. I have one dealership telling me no, and he's stating its covered. All is good! Should be a pretty interesting morning phone call or visit :mad:
this is just my speculation but I bet this is why its covered. |
My thermostat housing went out at 58K and the dealer would not cover its replacement under any Mini service bulletin, warranty, etc.
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I'll be following this to see where it goes.
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this says emissions is only covered 5yr, 50k by federal law:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2007/...1259/warranty/ Maybe its changed? Some states might have different rules. Cali is notorious for that. This says 8yr/ 80k, but only for CC, ECU... Also, you have to fail an emissions test first and that part has to be proved to be the cause of failing the test. http://www.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f09048.pdf Think the OP just got lucky. |
Originally Posted by nrfitchett4
(Post 3770506)
this says emissions is only covered 5yr, 50k by federal law:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2007/...1259/warranty/ Maybe its changed? Some states might have different rules. Cali is notorious for that. This says 8yr/ 80k, but only for CC, ECU... Also, you have to fail an emissions test first and that part has to be proved to be the cause of failing the test. http://www.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f09048.pdf Think the OP just got lucky. |
Originally Posted by nrfitchett4
(Post 3770500)
I'll be following this to see where it goes.
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My appointment is this Wednesday. It's either going to be warranty when I sign the estimate, or I will be leaving with the car.
54.7K miles. I'll post back Wed evening. I still have the part available for sale for a "good" price ;) |
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Car dropped off at dealer this morning. Work order is warranty.
Customer Concern: CUSTOMER STATES THERMOSTAT HOUSING LEAK. EMMISONS WARRANTY Method of Payment: WARRANTY Original Estimate: $0 The leak was actually found and reported to me at my first oil change after the 4 year 50K mileage warranty ended. Go figure. |
Just checked with dealer in CA. Was told the housing is covered under emissions warranty in CA for 2008 and later models. Sad to write, mine's a 2007. Why not '07 and earlier? One of those things in life.
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Reason 2007 not covered
In CA the 2007 thermostat housing is not covered under the emissions warranty because the part as designed did not affect emissions; in 2008 the sensor was re-designed to be integrated into the housing part and therefore a defective housing part directly affects emissions. So, all 2008 and after housings are covered under the emissions warranty.
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Federal reg states:
* If your 1981 or later model year car or light truck just failed an approved emissions tests; and * Your State or local government requires that you repair the car; and * The test failure did not result from misuse of the vehicle or a failure to follow the manufacturer’s written maintenance instructions; and * You present the vehicle to a warranty-authorized manufacturer representative, along with evidence of the emissions test failure, during the relevant warranty period." :mad:Mine didn't fail, we don't emissions tests in Memphis! So gotta pay for the thermostat myself. Anyone know where to get the parts? My dealership states 3-4 WEEKS!!! She was leaking radiator fluid a week and a half ago so brought her in. Can't drive until fixed :cry: Any suggestions where to locate part? |
My understanding the part is on back order across the United States, so you'll have to wait. According to my dealer, this part has failed in hundreds of MCs and with such frequency they can't keep the part in current supply. Some owners have been without the use of their cars for over a month...waiting for one simple thermostat housing.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye62
(Post 3800497)
My understanding the part is on back order across the United States, so you'll have to wait. According to my dealer, this part has failed in hundreds of MCs and with such frequency they can't keep the part in current supply. Some owners have been without the use of their cars for over a month...waiting for one simple thermostat housing.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye62
(Post 3800497)
My understanding the part is on back order across the United States, so you'll have to wait. According to my dealer, this part has failed in hundreds of MCs and with such frequency they can't keep the part in current supply. Some owners have been without the use of their cars for over a month...waiting for one simple thermostat housing.
I heard there is a dealership in SC that is bringing engines over just for the thermostat housing so they can get the Minis out of their service bays. It's a big problem! |
I've got a cracked thermostat housing, too. Coolant comes out at a steady stream whenever the pump is running. My shop is calling anyone they can think of, including dealerships in several states. Nobody knows when they'll be available, it could be weeks. (!) BavAuto and ECS are of course out, too.
Also, thanks to the discussion above, I'll be calling my dealer today to see whether it is covered in the emissions warranty in my state (although I'd pay cash just to get a part right now). My state requires annual inspections, so I'm hopeful. |
I just talked to my local dealer and they say the thermostat housing falls under the 4yr/50k standard warranty, not emissions warranty.
They also said they have many people with cars down, waiting for these parts to come in. They mentioned 16,000 are on backorder. (2008 MCS, in North Carolina) |
I'll add that my 2009 JCW with 37k miles is down with a leaking thermostat housing. In the actual warranty booklet in the car it states that "THERMOSTAT AND HOUSING" is covered under the california emissions standard, the back of the booklet. It may not be covered under states that don't follow the california standard.
However, the first discussion I had with mini deal (Steven's Creek Mini in Santa Clara, CA) they told me that it would only be covered if electronics went bad, if it was leaking then it wouldn't be covered by the emissions warranty. They currently have around 24 cars awaiting the housing from my brief discussion. They are stating (but not guaranteeing) another two weeks before the part comes in. I've been told that I also have a leak in the waterpump and it probably occurred when the car overheated due to the thermostat housing leaking. Total estimate is around $1700 (900 for waterpump, 800 for thermostat). Not particularly fond of MINI right now. |
Can anyone say "recall"?!?!
If this is such a systemic issue? |
This thread really shouldn't be about the thermostat housing shortage, so I'm moving my comments over to another thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...housing-7.html |
Originally Posted by Matt Drown
(Post 3805748)
I'll add that my 2009 JCW with 37k miles is down with a leaking thermostat housing. In the actual warranty booklet in the car it states that "THERMOSTAT AND HOUSING" is covered under the california emissions standard, the back of the booklet. It may not be covered under states that don't follow the california standard.
However, the first discussion I had with mini deal (Steven's Creek Mini in Santa Clara, CA) they told me that it would only be covered if electronics went bad, if it was leaking then it wouldn't be covered by the emissions warranty. They currently have around 24 cars awaiting the housing from my brief discussion. They are stating (but not guaranteeing) another two weeks before the part comes in. I've been told that I also have a leak in the waterpump and it probably occurred when the car overheated due to the thermostat housing leaking. Total estimate is around $1700 (900 for waterpump, 800 for thermostat). Not particularly fond of MINI right now. |
Originally Posted by ocluck
(Post 3806125)
BS on the electronics excuse to weasel their way out of a legit warranty covered and stated in the warranty booklet. Point to them the warranty booklet. No where does it states that the electronics has to fail. And if they still say that BS, try another dealer or call MINI USA.
Getting the thermostat work done today (only 3+ weeks down waiting for the part) at an independent mechanic due to dealer charges were 30% higher. |
Our R60 threw a code for thermostat. Used Mini roadside assistance to have it towed to dealer. They said it would be 3 to 6 weeks to get the part in. Drove a 2016 Clubman for a week and then the dealer rented us a car. Today is 4 weeks it has been at the dealer. Checked in with SA today and he said we are number 15 on the list and they are getting 5 thermostats in each week so we are probably 2 to 3 weeks from getting our Mini back. Wouldn't be so bad, but we bought it 3,000 miles ago.
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My 2012 R56 MCS @ 53k miles just threw a fault code yesterday night. There hasn't been any issues with leakage nor temperature rising above normal temp.
I just called my local dealership to check if the thermostat was covered under emissions warranty, and SA had informed me that his system mentions this only up to 2011 models. SA also advised that there had been a new iteration of the thermostat housing since the car has been manufactured and will be around $700-750 for housing replacement. However a few minutes later after getting off the phone, the SA called me back saying that after checking with his manager, later models were also qualified to be repaired under the emissions warranty. He told me that the thermostat housing is currently under back order and will have to schedule me in for next week. Fingers crossed that they'll take care of me :D |
MINI had our 2012 CM S a total of 9 weeks for the thermostat warranty. They paid for the rental car for 8 weeks. No cost to us.
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