MINI claims all Cooper S and John cooper s POP when in sport mode
 

I have a 2010 MINI Clubman S, Laurel edition. According to the website all S model, and John cooper works will POP on deacceleration, when is sport mode. I have not noticed this in my car.

I have heard a 2009 or 2010 John cooper works that does this. I hear it when he is shifting I think. So I know what it should sound like.

Is the poping sound every time you take your foot off the gas, or just when you are down shifting/slowing down. I know its probably a stupid question, but what do they technically mean when they say "deacceleration".

I do hear my blowoff valve realeasing air, but thats because of the turbo. I thought the poping is different. I really like the sound of my car when I have it in sport mode, but I want the poping too. it sounds soo nice when I hear the John cooper works in front of me on road trips.

I have also heard from somewhere that maybe the Clubman S doesnt have this feature. But that seems lame. Can anyone help me on this. If my car really doesnt do this from the factory, how can I make it.

Thanks

Tony

The pop and burble with the sport button on is for the 2011 S and JCW. The other JCWs do have some burble on the pre '11s.

Dumb question: Is the pop/burble a good thing? Do you want that to happen?

It doesn't seem to hurt anything. My '03 did it too. On my 2011 MCS, all you got to do is let up on the gas and as it decelerates and down shifts you can hear the popping and burbling. It actually sounds pretty cool.

I like it... Just to clarify, TudTud, when you are in Sport mode and let off on the gas your MINI will "burble". I don't get it when I am downshifting. Some newbies here (I'm a 3 month veteran!) think that the car is backfiring and it does sound a little like that but it's natural and planned and nothing to worry about. By the by, what's a "tudtud"?

I get the pop/ burple sometimes when I am shifting in acceleration as well sounds pretty BA to me

No it was put it there by mini to be music to your ears, and you want it to happen if you want to hear it.. just think of it as another feature of sport mode. and in a week or two we are gonna be loving this noise when we get our minis lol :thumbsup:

Some of you are saying the Burble and POP are only on the 2011 models. I am sure I read this on the MINI Site in 2010 to. I have had many MINI's and I am always reading the new information on the internet, or website. I tried listening carefully again today. I have actually wondered about this on my car since I got it last April. I still dont hear anything.

I think i will have to ask the dealer why my car doesnt do it. I am going to be very mad if its just because I have a clubman S. I want to hear it when I really take off fast and change gears, or slow down. I do plan on changeing the intake, and some other things that will make my car sound better inside and outside. But Its so much better if it pops and brumbles.

Someone asked me what TudTud means. TudTud is the name of my Cat. It is Tagalog(phillipino) for "Giving Nature"

This is an ECU programmed 'feature'.
It was in the 2009 JCW's.
They intentinally removed it from the 2010 year.

The cause is an intentionally released miniscule amount of fuel on deceleration... since it doesn't fire in the cylynders (no spark when no demand) - it goes through and ignites in the exhaust.

This can be programmed back in. Sounds like Mini got the message and is putting it back on the 2011s. I know Jan can add this (thought it has yet to make the priority list - as it does nothing for performance - just ear-candy). Alta may be able to put it on via their tune as well. Anyway - as far as I know - the only way to get this on at 2010 is via reprogrammed ECU (RMW tune, mayby Alta tune, or other)

nice do you think your able to get it louder with the accessport? and does it waste more gas by doing this if it does is it a big noticable amount?

its very upsetting that they took this feature out for one year. I am sure if they asked MINI drivers, if they wanted it taken out, they would have all said no. Plus i know they did advertise that all the 2010 MINI S models do it, when I bought mine.

I need to go to the dealer then, and see if they can reprogram it. I dont see why they couldnt. Since its a computer thing.

oh, and yes it gets louder if you have different exhaust. I think different intake and something else makes it louder inside and ouside of car. cause i have heard a JCW with aftermarket mods, and it sounds really loud, and idles different too.

thats cuase they have a jcw exhaust

I'm sure the guys at Alta could figure it out (if they haven't already) with the AP tool.

And - no - the amount of fuel required and the infrequency of the event - not going to make a noticable dent in your fuel economy....

thanks, during the test drive at one of the local dealership i kept going on the gas and come off over and over again during the test drive.. until the MA yelled at me. so i turned around and went back to the dealership and didnt say one word. i parked the car gave him the keys and he said "lets go talk prices" I gave a quick response of "BYE".. if he didnt ruin my fun then he would have got a sale.. even though i know it was mighty annoying for him lol :lol:.. he should have delt with it

The BOV is actually a diverter valve. I can hear the pop-pop even when I am not in sport mode, but that might be a 2011 thing?? I'm not sure.

None of the 2nd Gen MCS's had "the burble" until 2011.

I love the sound of the baffles popping on decelleration. It's built into the car on purpose and, as the dealer told me when I bought it, serves no real purpose other than to sound cool. I love it, as much I love the little beer can-shaped exhaust pipes. :) :thumbsup:

Paula

this is one of the things i miss most about my 06...My Clubman does it when in sport mode but it doesnt seem like its as frequent or as loud. Maybe when i get my exhaust it will be as pronounced as it was in my 06 (i had a magniflow on my r53)

albeit Mini took it out because of the "complaints" they received from Mini's grocery getting customers:no::eek2::lol:

If somebody finds out it can be programmed using an Alta flash... Please do post back!

Those of with the Access Port have been waiting since it came out last August for them to make a map wih the B&P. Still waiting.........

and theyll be waiting for awhile

my 2010 JCW has it - so maybe they took it out for non JCW in 2010. And sometimes it downright shoots a gun rather than burbles, but that's part of the fun. Kind of like riding my Triumph motorcycle - must a be a Brit thing =)

Tudtud2 you should be ashamed you havent posted a pic in the laurel owners registry to 300.:sly:

The pop & burble makes my neighbors so mad, but I can't get enough of it! :lol:

do u have a jcw pipe?

I have a 2009 factory JCW.

Don't know where you're getting this information. The "burble" feature first appeared on 05-06 R53's. It went away with the introduction of the R56 in 07, but was reintroduced in the factory JCW cars in '09. I had an 09 and now have an '11 JCW and they both burble like a percolator. I did not own a '10, but have NEVER heard that they didn't do it too.
It does get louder and more prominent with increased mileage. When I sold my 09 with 34K miles, it burbled and backfired loudly every time you got off the gas. My '11 was quiet as a church mouse when brand new, but now with around 6K miles on it, is much throatier sounding. I expect it will get louder yet with more miles.

...Several people with '10 JCW's plus stuff I've read and discussions I've had.

My 2010 JCW with 11k miles does not pop & burble in any mode at any time. The exhaust sounds quite nice - no complaints.
Also - I have a good friend who also has a 2010 JCW (built a few months earlier than mine); he has 15k miles... no pop & burble.

Bottom line - it has to be in the ECU program to make it happen. It is an intentional 'feature'; not an unavoidable byproduct of the design.

Regardless - great car! Tons of fun (with or w/o P&B) :)

The 2010's don't have the pop and burble it's been proven. If you find somewhere that disproved it then post up a link

wish mine did, i wonder if the over run feature can be accessed from the ncs expert, although thats more for electronic modules etc.

I guess I need to hear it in person to really appreciate it. Just from the videos, I think it would bug me... Like the way the injector noise bothers me, it sounds like something is not right. Coming from my sportbike days, if you had a "pop and burble" it means you had an exhaust leak or had to get your jetting right...

MINI should claim the cold start clatter is a feature ;)

Wife's 2010 S does not have the pop and burble and it would be great if it has one.

They'll probably be waiting for Jan to do it so they can steal... I mean borrow his maps!

I can't speak for the 2010 but this is a pretty accurate accounting of the P&B history. As for my 2011, I can say it is present with/without the sport button engaged, though it does seem a bit more prominent with sport mode engaged. I just passed the 1,000 mile mark a few days ago, so I think I've only begun to experience the aural pleasure of my JCW exhaust. :thumbsup:

Cant wait to get a custom 3' magnaflow on my mini then youll really hear that pop and burble

yeah, that would be awesome if the burble can be put back in the 2010's
do you guys know if the JCW tuning kit for the 2010 S comes with the burble?

Agreed. My Triumph did it with offroad pipes on it. But it was an 01 Legend TT not a classic Triumph. I loved it and got thumbs up from the Harley guys all the time. Now it's like having that bike all over again with my 09 JCW Clubbie. My Clubbie does it a bit in non sport but really cracks and snorts in sport mode. I've got over 61K miles on my car.

I just had the JCW kit installed on my 2007 MCS, with updated ECU.

Sounds great, no pops.

I think it might be better this way, the exhaust is pretty loud as is, could really annoy the neighbors if it popped too.

lemme see some pictures

I am pretty sure I know the sound you are all referring to, and my 2010 Clubbie (non-S) has it when I drive in sport mode/steptronic, which is all the time. I love that sound!