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mdun6 Jan 14, 2009 06:46 AM

Windows won't stay up
 
Hey all, I have a 2008 Mini Cooper S and yesterday everytime I parked it and got out the windows roll down and the sun roofs pop up. When I took it to the dealer they acted like they had never heard of this issue but I googled the problem today and see that there is a problem which I have not seen a solution posted that resolved the problem. Has anyone here had this problem and if so was the dealer able to fix? What was the issue with your Mini may help me get mine fixed.

Thanks.

lhoboy Jan 14, 2009 07:12 AM

It sounds like it may be a problem in your remote access key sending a signal to open the windows and the roof (I like that feature in the summer, btw). Leave your primary key at home and try using your spare key. If problem disappears, you need a new key.

mdun6 Jan 14, 2009 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by lhoboy (Post 2628292)
It sounds like it may be a problem in your remote access key sending a signal to open the windows and the roof (I like that feature in the summer, btw). Leave your primary key at home and try using your spare key. If problem disappears, you need a new key.



Thanks for the reply. I thought the same thing so I traded keys with my wife at lunch yesterday and got the same results. I guess I'm asking the question here because I have 0 faith in the service department at the dealership. I have one the cars that has the awful engine rattle on cold startup, sometimes it sounds like its going to blowup. They always told me before that it was a pump on the front of the motor and yesterday he said it was the rocker arms:o. Now if its the rocker arms that means there is no oils pressure there and thats why they are rattling. I'm thinking I made a big mistake buying a Mini.

lhoboy Jan 14, 2009 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by mdun6 (Post 2628302)
I'm thinking I made a big mistake buying a Mini.

Keep your chin up. My '02 was in the shop for 120 days of the first 2 years I had it and I even had to litigate under Magnuson-Moss. Now after 7 years and 70,000 miles I would never consider giving up the car. There just isn't anything out there that is more fun to drive (at least this side of the $100k mark). However, there are still at least 2 or 3 items that need fixing every time I take it in for a service/inspection.

We're ordering a new JCW for my wife in a few days and I fully expect to go through a similar sorting out process with that car.

4xAAA Jan 14, 2009 02:23 PM

With both the windows and the sunroof opening, I agree it is prolly the fob. I carry my fob in my back pocket. My office window faced the parking lot and I have opened the windows a coupe of times.
Has yours stopped?

Kazy Jan 14, 2009 02:34 PM

Try keeping your keys cleared of anything near them. It might be the way they're sitting in your pocket that's holding the unlock button down.

MotorMouth Jan 14, 2009 03:50 PM

several people have had this problem and it turned out to be the "footwell module".

yubman Jan 14, 2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by MotorMouth (Post 2628960)
several people have had this problem and it turned out to be the "footwell module".

A footwell module and diffrent door switch and or actuator are mentioned in this thread:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...their-own.html

MotorMouth Jan 14, 2009 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by yubman (Post 2628991)
A footwell module and diffrent door switch and or actuator are mentioned in this thread:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...their-own.html


yep, i'd bet that before both keys being bad.

mdun6 Jan 14, 2009 05:25 PM

Well my Mini is home and it had a bad actuator. I did talk to a different service advisor and he said the engine rattle was the valve trane. I reallly don't like that answer.

lhoboy Jan 14, 2009 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by mdun6 (Post 2629081)
Well my Mini is home and it had a bad actuator. I did talk to a different service advisor and he said the engine rattle was the valve trane. I reallly don't like that answer.

I believe that has been established for several others as well. Did your SA say how they were going to fix it?

mdun6 Jan 14, 2009 06:29 PM

No they didn't say anything about a fix.

lhoboy Jan 14, 2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by mdun6 (Post 2629166)
No they didn't say anything about a fix.

If I were you, I would demand that they fix it. Noticeable valvetrain noise when cold is an indication that pieces are slamming together and will cause premature failure. (Not to mention the annoying sound you have to put up with). If they can't fix it, you should Lemon-Law it and get a new one.

mdun6 Jan 14, 2009 06:59 PM

well the service advisor I have there normally says the rattle is normal for that engine. I don't believe that at all. I am going to pursue this just not real sure how to go about it at this point. Any advice would be great.

lhoboy Jan 15, 2009 07:44 AM

Do You Have Cold Start Rattling (Knocking)?
 

Originally Posted by mdun6 (Post 2629223)
well the service advisor I have there normally says the rattle is normal for that engine. I don't believe that at all. I am going to pursue this just not real sure how to go about it at this point. Any advice would be great.

The best way to find out if it is normal is to get feedback on this forum. If most people answer yes, then it is normal. Though I have heard of several on the NAM forums, I personally do not know of any gen 2 MINIs with this problem.

MotorMouth Jan 15, 2009 08:13 AM

mdun6 - yes, that seems to be "normal" for a large number of people if it's the start up rattle that goes away in a few minutes.

mdun6 Jan 15, 2009 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by MotorMouth (Post 2629745)
mdun6 - yes, that seems to be "normal" for a large number of people if it's the start up rattle that goes away in a few minutes.


So if you say its normal, would you be happy with that answer? If they tell me that its the rocker arms making that noise do you understand the damage that is being done to the rockers, valves and cam shaft? If it is normal why doesn't every Mini have the same issue? I have made an appointment with the service department to take it in next Thursday. The service advisor I spoke with admitted that the engine should not make the rattle noise and damage is being done.

MotorMouth Jan 15, 2009 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by mdun6 (Post 2629776)
So if you say its normal, would you be happy with that answer? If they tell me that its the rocker arms making that noise do you understand the damage that is being done to the rockers, valves and cam shaft? If it is normal why doesn't every Mini have the same issue? I have made an appointment with the service department to take it in next Thursday. The service advisor I spoke with admitted that the engine should not make the rattle noise and damage is being done.

I didn't say anything about being happy about it. Read the stickied thread about the start-up rattle to find out about the noise and what been done/not done about it.


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