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sevin 12-12-2015 02:38 PM

Power steering recall
 
Today my dad and I received recall notices from Mini concerning our '02 MC and '03 MCS. According to Mini, the recall "involves the electro-hydraulic power steering system". They say "the electro-hydraulic power steering system may incur a temporary or permanent loss of assistance due to manufacturing and field exposure issues".

Has anyone else received this notice? Mini states the problem may exist in some '02-05 MC and MCS's. Did they redesign the system in '06? They also say they are not ready to conduct the recall and that they will notify us by mail again when they decide to do it.

MINIAC 12-12-2015 03:07 PM

News of the recall surfaced the end of October. Notices have just been mailed out.

The upgraded power steering pump was introduced into production sometime in February 2005.

Another thread on this subject ...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ng-recall.html

sevin 12-12-2015 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by MINIAC (Post 4153617)
News of the recall surfaced the end of October. Notices have just been mailed out.

The upgraded power steering pump was introduced into production sometime in February 2005.

Another thread on this subject ...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ng-recall.html

So will the recall essentially replace the power steering pump with the Feb. '05+ one?

MINIAC 12-12-2015 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by sevin (Post 4153620)
So will the recall essentially replace the power steering pump with the Feb. '05+ one?

One would assume so but the information on the MINI site is not very informative ...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...52b797eb70.png

sevin 12-12-2015 03:33 PM

Yeah that's the same information I received in the letter. My P/S pump is leaking and I do get some choppiness in the morning, hopefully they'll start conducting the recall soon. Seems odd they would send out these letters when they're not even ready to do it yet...

rkw 12-12-2015 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by sevin (Post 4153620)
So will the recall essentially replace the power steering pump with the Feb. '05+ one?

Hopefully it's something better, because that one is failing too. It failed in my '06 (not covered in this recall) and others have also reported failures with the later version.


Originally Posted by sevin (Post 4153625)
Seems odd they would send out these letters when they're not even ready to do it yet...

It's very common for an automotive recall. There is probably a legal requirement to notify customers within a certain time limit, even if the manufacturer needs more time to actually perform the recall.

sevin 12-12-2015 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by rkw (Post 4153646)
Hopefully it's something better, because that one is failing too. It failed in my '06 (not covered in this recall) and others have also reported failures with the later version.

It's very common for an automotive recall. There is probably a legal requirement to notify customers within a certain time limit, even if the manufacturer needs more time to actually perform the recall.

Cool, thanks for the info.

newnhot 12-12-2015 05:12 PM

This recall is also retroactive if you had your pump replaced by Dealership. I had the PS pump replaced in my '05 MCS in '09 or 2010. I called the dealership and gave then the VIN of my Mini and they cut me a check for the repair. $1200.

sevin 12-12-2015 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by newnhot (Post 4153654)
This recall is also retroactive if you had your pump replaced by Dealership. I had the PS pump replaced in my '05 MCS in '09 or 2010. I called the dealership and gave then the VIN of my Mini and they cut me a check for the repair. $1200.

That's pretty nice! I've only had this car a few months though, and my dad has never had his replaced.

MiniSMan 12-12-2015 07:19 PM

the PSP just recently died on my 06 MCS (Jan 06 Build) ...Bought the car used Feb of this past year .. with only 31,000 miles...Pump crapped out at 41,000 miles ...I hope they extend the recall to the 06 model as well ...paid 300.00 for a remanufactured pump from a Company on Ebay that has a Lifetime Warranty on the part and installed it myself ..a PITA to remove and install (took me 4 hours) but glad i saved money on the Labor doing it myself :wink:

David.R53 12-13-2015 06:14 AM

Just received my notice this week. Replaced the fan myself and had the pump rebuilt 2 years ago, so curious to see if I will get any money back or if they will replace the working rebuilt unit with a new one or ??

Snaps 12-13-2015 03:17 PM

I had to take my Mini in for a failed windshield wiper a few weeks back (not a grounding issue as it turned out), and they mentioned about the recall, and took care of that without charge.

Up until that point, I had no issues with the power steering. The only thing I ever noticed was a very pronounced whine sound whenever you turned the steering wheel. I only ever associated it as a product of the steering mechanism.

sevin 12-13-2015 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 4153869)
I had to take my Mini in for a failed windshield wiper a few weeks back (not a grounding issue as it turned out), and they mentioned about the recall, and took care of that without charge.

Up until that point, I had no issues with the power steering. The only thing I ever noticed was a very pronounced whine sound whenever you turned the steering wheel. I only ever associated it as a product of the steering mechanism.

So they did the recall a few weeks ago? The letter said they weren't prepared to do them yet.

That whine is a product of the power steering being electrically assisted, not hydraulic. The sound is part of what makes a Mini a Mini to me :lol:

R53_Devin 12-14-2015 08:03 AM

I just called them and spoke to a person in the service dept. They are telling me to bring it in and they will look at it. Then said if nothing is failing they won't perform any operation. If its a safety recall shouldn't they replace the items regardless? I have to drive 1.5 hrs just to get to an authorized dealer. I'd be upset if I wasted my time.

sevin 12-14-2015 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by R53_Devin (Post 4154023)
I just called them and spoke to a person in the service dept. They are telling me to bring it in and they will look at it. Then said if nothing is failing they won't perform any operation. If its a safety recall shouldn't they replace the items regardless? I have to drive 1.5 hrs just to get to an authorized dealer. I'd be upset if I wasted my time.

I'd hope they'd repair it regardless. Recalls are meant to PREVENT any further problems with some components, so even if they're in working order at the time of inspection, it makes no sense not to install the updated parts anyway to prevent issues in the future.

R53_Devin 12-14-2015 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by sevin (Post 4154113)
I'd hope they'd repair it regardless. Recalls are meant to PREVENT any further problems with some components, so even if they're in working order at the time of inspection, it makes no sense not to install the updated parts anyway to prevent issues in the future.

My thoughts exactly. Either they can fix a possible issue before it begins or I'll be taking it back when/if it does mess up, then they can fix the pump along with the rack and pinion.

KevinR 12-14-2015 04:33 PM

I had my pump and fan replaced a week ago. At least some dealers have stock and are prepared to do the work.

FYI, I bought my car in October so I didn't receive a letter from MINI. I learned about the recall on these forums.

gpwpat 12-14-2015 06:02 PM

I am so glad this is a safety recall. I replaced my psp in July. Drove around for a week with no pump. I was way out of warrenty. With this recall and my invoice for a brand new pump $620, I am going to peruse a refund from mini. I did the install. I don't know how that will affect me but I'm not looking for labor.

Shawnnn 12-15-2015 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by R53_Devin (Post 4154266)
My thoughts exactly. Either they can fix a possible issue before it begins or I'll be taking it back when/if it does mess up, then they can fix the pump along with the rack and pinion.

The recall letter clearly states they will only replace if broken :

The electro-hydraulic power steering system will be inspected by an authorized MINI dealer and components such as the EHPS pump fan and or/wiring will be replaced as deemed necessary and appropriate.

It does state the inspection will be free, so no dealer fees at least

KevinR 12-15-2015 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Shawnnn (Post 4154376)
The recall letter clearly states they will only replace if broken :

The electro-hydraulic power steering system will be inspected by an authorized MINI dealer and components such as the EHPS pump fan and or/wiring will be replaced as deemed necessary and appropriate.

It does state the inspection will be free, so no dealer fees at least

Mine was intermittent and that is what I told the service adviser. It was working at the time I took my car into the service department. I do not know how they determined mine would get a pump and fan as part of the process.

Shawnnn 12-15-2015 05:08 AM

Yeah, l was hoping it would be a straight recall. From the letter it's up to the dealer if they want to replace it or not. It doesn't make sense, the pump can fail and possibly cause an accident but they wont replace until it fails. Whatever, at least my 02 pump is now covered again

MINIAC 12-15-2015 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Shawnnn (Post 4154376)
The recall letter clearly states they will only replace if broken :

The electro-hydraulic power steering system will be inspected by an authorized MINI dealer and components such as the EHPS pump fan and or/wiring will be replaced as deemed necessary and appropriate.

No it says "will be replaced as deemed necessary and appropriate" ... whatever that means :confused:


Originally Posted by Shawnnn (Post 4154386)
Yeah, l was hoping it would be a straight recall. From the letter it's up to the dealer if they want to replace it or not. It doesn't make sense, the pump can fail and possibly cause an accident but they wont replace until it fails.

I agree :wink:

mejerry 12-15-2015 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by R53_Devin (Post 4154023)
I just called them and spoke to a person in the service dept. They are telling me to bring it in and they will look at it. Then said if nothing is failing they won't perform any operation. If its a safety recall shouldn't they replace the items regardless? I have to drive 1.5 hrs just to get to an authorized dealer. I'd be upset if I wasted my time.

Don't put too much in the service manager conversation. I called mine and they said there's no recall. So I emailed them my letter and they said, oh yeh, I see that now. I would wait until you receive letter that they're ready, then call again.

cristo 03-22-2016 04:04 PM

Got my official recall notice, saying call your dealer to schedule asap.
I waited a couple weeks, then called, and they just said to call back
in a few more weeks because they're waiting on parts availability and
not even scheduling anything at this point.

Fortunately, not in a hurry as no glitches with the P/S so far, except for the
clamps/hoses that have been slowly oozing (several ounces per year) for the
past several years.

sevin 03-22-2016 06:34 PM

I received the 2nd recall notice a couple weeks ago as well. Called the dealership and they do not have parts, they took down my info and will call me back when they get stuff in.


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