Suspension Infinitely adjustable rear sway bar
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Does anyone have any first hand experience with the adjustable sway bar found on one of the site sponsors "maniacal" web site. It has clamps on the sway bar rather than two or three holes.
I am curious if this is a strong system. Will the clamps stay in position? I had a sway bar system like this on a dirt track car many, many years ago and it worked great, but it was very overbuilt. The one for sale on that site might be strong and it might not.
An additional advantage to the bar appears to be doing away with the original sway bar links. Has anyone ever broken a stock sway bar link?
Thanks for your comments and sharing your first hand experience.
I am curious if this is a strong system. Will the clamps stay in position? I had a sway bar system like this on a dirt track car many, many years ago and it worked great, but it was very overbuilt. The one for sale on that site might be strong and it might not.
An additional advantage to the bar appears to be doing away with the original sway bar links. Has anyone ever broken a stock sway bar link?
Thanks for your comments and sharing your first hand experience.
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There are some advantages to really tuning your rear suspension of the car with that type of rear sway bar. But the problem is making sure that both sides are exactly the same rate. If there are off, that could cause unpredictable steering.
Regarding brocken links, There have been cases of broken links. I have not experienced this, but people on this board have.
If you want my suggestion on the rear sway bar I'd say get the UUC. I have tried the stock, Maddness, and the UUC. I actually took the maddness off because it was just to stiff, cause the car to be over steer happy on race tires. Not a very predictable solution. The UUC is a bit less stiff, but gives very predictable steering, I knoced about 1 -2 seconds off using this bar compared to the Maddness, on about a 50 second course.
That and the UUC fits like a glove where the madness had sliding issues on my car.
Regarding brocken links, There have been cases of broken links. I have not experienced this, but people on this board have.
If you want my suggestion on the rear sway bar I'd say get the UUC. I have tried the stock, Maddness, and the UUC. I actually took the maddness off because it was just to stiff, cause the car to be over steer happy on race tires. Not a very predictable solution. The UUC is a bit less stiff, but gives very predictable steering, I knoced about 1 -2 seconds off using this bar compared to the Maddness, on about a 50 second course.
That and the UUC fits like a glove where the madness had sliding issues on my car.
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Anyone worried about the stock links or wanting to replace the stock links should read this excellent post:
Performance Modifications :: Dirt cheap swaybar endlinks
Performance Modifications :: Dirt cheap swaybar endlinks
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Thanks for the feedback and for answering my dumb question.
I'm not worried about getting the bar misadjusted side to side. That's a simple matter of measurement. My worry was whether it would hold well enough when clamped.
It's now all adacemic anyway. I bought a 19MM bar with three adjustment holes. It was the H Sport. According to what was posted in another thread the order of stiffness is: MC bar, MCS bar, H Sport 19, H&R Sport, Alta and H&R Comp and then the RDR. Now this scale does not include the good bars in this thread, but it gave me something to go on because it was just a little stiffer than the MCS bar. With my soft MC springs and shocks I'm hoping this will work in one of the settings.
My next mod will most likely be springs and camber links, so I may be going to a stiffer bar at that point.
BTW, I have a set of 17" wheels coming and will be doing all these mods one step at a time.
Thanks again for all the feedback. You guys are great.
I'm not worried about getting the bar misadjusted side to side. That's a simple matter of measurement. My worry was whether it would hold well enough when clamped.
It's now all adacemic anyway. I bought a 19MM bar with three adjustment holes. It was the H Sport. According to what was posted in another thread the order of stiffness is: MC bar, MCS bar, H Sport 19, H&R Sport, Alta and H&R Comp and then the RDR. Now this scale does not include the good bars in this thread, but it gave me something to go on because it was just a little stiffer than the MCS bar. With my soft MC springs and shocks I'm hoping this will work in one of the settings.
My next mod will most likely be springs and camber links, so I may be going to a stiffer bar at that point.
BTW, I have a set of 17" wheels coming and will be doing all these mods one step at a time.
Thanks again for all the feedback. You guys are great.
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>>Thanks for the feedback and for answering my dumb question.
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>>I'm not worried about getting the bar misadjusted side to side. That's a simple matter of measurement. My worry was whether it would hold well enough when clamped.
>>
>>It's now all adacemic anyway. I bought a 19MM bar with three adjustment holes. It was the H Sport. According to what was posted in another thread the order of stiffness is: MC bar, MCS bar, H Sport 19, H&R Sport, Alta and H&R Comp and then the RDR. Now this scale does not include the good bars in this thread, but it gave me something to go on because it was just a little stiffer than the MCS bar. With my soft MC springs and shocks I'm hoping this will work in one of the settings.
>>
>>My next mod will most likely be springs and camber links, so I may be going to a stiffer bar at that point.
>>
>>BTW, I have a set of 17" wheels coming and will be doing all these mods one step at a time.
>>
>>Thanks again for all the feedback. You guys are great.
>>
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Be careful about going to stiff. That causes the undesirable over steer that really negativly effect the mini's handeling. I thought that stiffer was better to, but when your rear wheel starts to lift in tight corners, then you will loose traction as I was. I was getting 3-4" of wheen lift when to tight.
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>>I'm not worried about getting the bar misadjusted side to side. That's a simple matter of measurement. My worry was whether it would hold well enough when clamped.
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>>It's now all adacemic anyway. I bought a 19MM bar with three adjustment holes. It was the H Sport. According to what was posted in another thread the order of stiffness is: MC bar, MCS bar, H Sport 19, H&R Sport, Alta and H&R Comp and then the RDR. Now this scale does not include the good bars in this thread, but it gave me something to go on because it was just a little stiffer than the MCS bar. With my soft MC springs and shocks I'm hoping this will work in one of the settings.
>>
>>My next mod will most likely be springs and camber links, so I may be going to a stiffer bar at that point.
>>
>>BTW, I have a set of 17" wheels coming and will be doing all these mods one step at a time.
>>
>>Thanks again for all the feedback. You guys are great.
>>
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Be careful about going to stiff. That causes the undesirable over steer that really negativly effect the mini's handeling. I thought that stiffer was better to, but when your rear wheel starts to lift in tight corners, then you will loose traction as I was. I was getting 3-4" of wheen lift when to tight.
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