Hello, I have a countryman SD auto with sport button, I wanted to ask something: when I press the sport button , and when I put the auto stick to the left in -m/s+ possition is the same thing???? I'm very confused.. I have to do the 2 thing together and if ere is a deference what is that. Thank you in advance .

 

When you press the sport button, the RPMs hold on a little longer, to higher RPMs, changed throttle sensitivity, and the steering weight/feeling changes.

When you slap the stick over it changes the shifting only I think, the RPMs will do the same thing as sport mode but I think the throttle might stay the same and the steering stays the same. I might be wrong on the last part.

The big difference is that when you push or pull the paddle shifter. In sport mode you can manually change gear with paddles but after a few seconds it will return from M3 or M4 or whatever you selected and go back to DS, the gear it things you should be in. With the stick slapped over, when you manually change a gear it will hold that gear to redline or idle, you must continue shifting gears until you put the stick back upright.

 

I don't have my Countryman yet, but from what I've been able to gather reading numerous posts here, the Sport button does three things:

1. Remaps the shift points in the manual transmission to higher revs - making the transmission shift a little later than it normally would.

2. Remaps the throttle response - making the pedal a little more responsive.

3. Tightens the steering - making the steering a little more direct.

Now, from also reading the old threads a lot of people with manual cars don't even realize that 2 & 3 are happening. So they're not really in your face changes and the most notable change is the remapping of shift points.

If you're in manual mode, then you're taking responsibility of the shift points. I've heard at least one person say that when you put it in manual mode the other elements of sport mode are already put on, but I haven't really seen multiple people verify it.

Either way, by going into manual you're essentially negating the 'main' feature of sport mode, so if you're putting it in manual already you're either not going to have any change or you'll just have a minimal change that some people might not even notice.

 

I think Yetti is correct based on what i've felt:

Sport button: Steering assist change, throttle change and shift program change
M/S on shift: Shift program change + manual shifts via push/pull or paddles.

 

Ok , now i get it, together will be fine. Thank you

 

No real advantage to using the stick over sport mode except the gear holding. I almost never push the stick over, as my knee will eventually push it back (I'm 6'-6").

 

Only if I want to play with the paddles...

 

and, in addition to the paddles, you can push the stick forward do downshift and pull to upshift.

I just wish I could remap the paddle so one down shifted and the other upshifted.

 

that can be done and has been done .... requires reversing a couple wires in the steering wheel harness

actually, you are reversing the action of one paddle relative to the other paddle, each paddle would still be able to shift both up and down, they would act opposite of each other

i read a post on here detailing how to do it

scott

 

they both do the same thing, turn the car into sport mode. I got this info from my MA and I just confirmed it from the manual.

Move the selector lever from position D to the
left into the M/S shifting slot:
The Sport program is activated and DS is displayed.
This position is recommended for a performance-
oriented driving style.

 

To me the car feels like it has faster acceleration when using the automatic in manual shifting mode. Also, if the sport mode were automatically enabled by pushing over to shift mode how come the light does not come on...

Also, sport mode seems to increase the RPM range the car will stay in gear.

Am I crazy, or did they change the CM automatic system at some point to automatically shift into sport mode when you selected paddle shifting? I would love that!

 

Good post.

 

It's misleading for MINI to call the -m/s+ auto position "sport mode" instead of "manual shift mode" or "sport shift mode" because as you can see, many drivers and even MAs are confused into believing that it somehow activates all the features of the sport button, which it doesn't.

 

i have a cms all4 manual, but my dad liked it so much he bought a cms all4 auto

i drove his auto to explore the sport button vs manual shift mode because he was confused about it

it appears to me they are different and do not do the same thing

the sport button changes the throttle from linear to progressive and changes the power steering boost along with changing the transmission shift points while in auto shift mode

with sport off and pulling the shift lever to the left from drive but not manually shifting seems to change the shift points only, no throttle change and no steering change

after you manually shift, then you are in full manual mode

also, if you are in auto and use the steering wheel levers to manually shift, the car will follow your shift commands, but will then revert to full auto shifting after a slight delay

another oddity (at least i thought so, having never owned or driven a car with an automatic and cruise control) is that you can manually shift with cruise control engaged and cruise will remain engaged ... shifting a manual while on cruise will disengage cruise control

i will "borrow" my dad's car again for some more "research" on this issue hehehe

scott

 

Adding to the confusion, when activating "sport shift" (as I like to call it when I use the shift lever instead of the button), "DS" appears in the tach, the same as when the sport button is depressed.

MINI could erase all this confusion by implementing all of the sport button features into the auto shift lever.

 

Is it same woth i guys, i moved the shift lever on the sports mode, but i dont hear any exhaust burble or pop, but when i press the sports i can hear it every time i took off from the gas pedal.

 

Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I had the same confusion about this in my new Clubman. I was guessing the button tightened up steering or suspension, but this clear it up and I wanted to say thanks.

I also agree with those that indicated they should just incorporate all of this into the shifter slide left. BMW did that. Just seems silly to separate these out.

 

i m confused as well, i hv a 2013 Cms and the dealer said the 2013 version no longer has the “sport button” but only the shift lever “because they both do the same function and no need to hv both”. but the confusing part is that the 2013 CMS user manual still referring to the “sport button” : (

 

The 2013 Countryman has the window switches on the door panels, instead of the center stack like on the '11s and '12s. The sport button has been shifted up a row and is now a toggle at the bottom of the center stack (it's labeled "Sport").

 

thanks i m gonna make them to install the sport switch for me those liars

 

There's nothing to install. it's already there. EVERY MINI, whether it's a Hardtop, Cabrio, Roadster, Coupe, Countryman, or Paceman has the sport button. It's a standard feature. There's no such thing as a current generation MINI that doesn't have one. It would be impossible for it to be left off.

 

Oops! Forgot the Clubman!

 

In the US (and certain other markets?), this is true. In other parts of the world, they have to pay for the sport button. I know some of our European friends have posted that they didn't get a sport button.

 

yes Sport button/Switch is an option here (Hong Kong, China, etc.), even for the S!! but i was told at the time of purchase that it would have the Sport button/Switch, and now the dealer claim that the "new 2013 does not carry the button/switch b/c the shift lever would do the same job "

 

Interesting... I did not know that it was standard only in the US and some other markets, optional in others.