How well does the MINI brake?
How well does the MINI brake?
Anyone have stock 60-0 ft or 70-0 ft? How is it compared to other cars such as the Evo, STi, etc..
How well does upgraded rotors/bigger brake kits take to it in comparison to stock stopping distance?
Thanks
How well does upgraded rotors/bigger brake kits take to it in comparison to stock stopping distance?
Thanks
I'm glad you spelled "brake" correctly. This could have been a very different thread.
Anyway, R&T tested a MSC JCW in April '06, and they got 122 feet from 60mph and 226 feet from 80mph. The R56 ('07) MCS uses the JCW brakes from the R53, and weight about the same or less, so braking distances should be similar.
Anyway, R&T tested a MSC JCW in April '06, and they got 122 feet from 60mph and 226 feet from 80mph. The R56 ('07) MCS uses the JCW brakes from the R53, and weight about the same or less, so braking distances should be similar.
Like most cars of this nature it stops quite well. The first time...
Repeated stops and heat cycling are the killer. Give that the ultimate adhesion to the road surface is the tire, fitting a BBK is no guarantee of dramatic improvments. However if you up the tire compound and push the car harder a brake upgrade can help exploit this as well as offer both improved feedback and improved duty cycle. Why tax a stock system repeatedly at 98% when you can achieve the same result often at, say 80%?
Never the less I think a vast number of buyers of BBKs and similar product do so in part for appearance gains. And many probably seldom exploit what the purchase can really offer them. No problem, that's half the fun of customizing a car.
Repeated stops and heat cycling are the killer. Give that the ultimate adhesion to the road surface is the tire, fitting a BBK is no guarantee of dramatic improvments. However if you up the tire compound and push the car harder a brake upgrade can help exploit this as well as offer both improved feedback and improved duty cycle. Why tax a stock system repeatedly at 98% when you can achieve the same result often at, say 80%?
Never the less I think a vast number of buyers of BBKs and similar product do so in part for appearance gains. And many probably seldom exploit what the purchase can really offer them. No problem, that's half the fun of customizing a car.
Ok cool...glad to hear that this stops well, and I'm sure upgraded rotors or a brake kit will do a lot closer to 100...This mini sounds like its the next best car to an Evo.. I get closer and closer to buying one every day!
I measured a 98' 60-0mph stop in my car, for what it's worth. That was with good tires (fresh 215/45-16 Azenis 215s), lighter 16x7.5 wheels, EBC Greenstuff pads, SS brake lines, stock rotors, stock calipers. Also upgraded springs and dampers, so weight transfer wasn't stock. My alignment was closer to stock then too, or at least closer than I am now, so that helped braking too.
As Todd hinted at, that was for a single stop. I'd bet it could have provided similar numbers for another stop or two, but they'd start getting longer after that. That's when the BBKs start showing an advantage.
Scott
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As Todd hinted at, that was for a single stop. I'd bet it could have provided similar numbers for another stop or two, but they'd start getting longer after that. That's when the BBKs start showing an advantage.
Scott
90SM
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Stopping distance 60-0 in stock MCS with 16" wheels about 105 feet.
B3 brake kit stopped in about 70 feet.
Actual distance will vary with wheels, weight of car with options, road surface and conditions.
Distance itself is not that big a factor as what happens with repeated stops and the onset of brake fade as things heat up.
In general the stock MINI R50 or R53 brakes are good.
Add better brake pads and they get better with less brake fade.
The R56 stock brakes for MCS should be very good.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=29317
Post #39
Stopping distance 60-0 in stock MCS with 16" wheels about 105 feet.
B3 brake kit stopped in about 70 feet.
Actual distance will vary with wheels, weight of car with options, road surface and conditions.
Distance itself is not that big a factor as what happens with repeated stops and the onset of brake fade as things heat up.
In general the stock MINI R50 or R53 brakes are good.
Add better brake pads and they get better with less brake fade.
The R56 stock brakes for MCS should be very good.
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