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choosy 03-12-2015 06:23 PM

R53 JCW brake and rotor ?s
 
I have a 2006 Mini Cooper s JCW. Trying to find a solid set of slotted rotors while keeping the cost down. Also want a set of break pads as well.

What is the cheapest yet best break pad and rotor kit I can buy?

Are my rear brakes different than a standard s model?

Since I have the JCW brake kit. Or the same?

Do I have to replace a brake sensor when I do this? The only video I could find was on minimania's you tube page but it didn't show a sensor.

bavmotors 03-12-2015 07:40 PM

Assuming by solid set of slotted rotors, you mean decent, I'd go with a set of these;
http://www.motoringwerks.com/p-2953-...ot-rotors.aspx

NC TRACKRAT 03-13-2015 06:29 AM

If you're careful, the sensor can be re-used. Even if you break the adapter, just use a tie-wrap and get it out of the way. When you rotate your tires, just take a look at the pad wear. Sensors are for the clue-less. Yes, the rears are the same as R53. Before we go suggesting pads, what are you going to be doing with the car? Cruising, curve-carving, autocrossing or track duty? Big difference in pad selection. FWIW, I use plain old cheap, solid rotors for track duty and they work just as well as the slotted versions.

choosy 03-13-2015 06:34 AM

Just daily driving. I don't necessarily need slotted rotors. Just looking for basic replacement parts. Drilled and slotted rotors would be nice though if I can find all 4 for a good price. Can't seem to find an all in one kit though.

bavmotors 03-13-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by choosy (Post 4056020)
Just daily driving. I don't necessarily need slotted rotors. Just looking for basic replacement parts. Drilled and slotted rotors would be nice though if I can find all 4 for a good price. Can't seem to find an all in one kit though.

I'd just get some solid rotors from bavauto Meyle's are quite cheap and come coated, also ecs has decent prices.

ZippyNH 03-13-2015 07:18 AM

Look at centric premium or centric high carbon premium rotors...
Good $$, good quality...know folks who run then on the track, they stand up...

Pads...a million option....pick ones that suit your needs...don't be tempted to "upgrade" above how you actually drive or you will end up with a pad with little cold bite and that is noisy, that may might eat rotors....
For me, akenebonoo euro was right...took a bit of time to develop a nice feel, but a good street pad, dust free...
One tip...rotors with groves cut in them often whirr and many eat pads faster...sounds like $$ is an option...fancy looking rotors are a pure poser option on all but the highest end rotors...so you are not fooling anybody with them...I'd keep them off all but a all show, no go display car unless you have bigger $$$ to spend.

Helix13mini 03-13-2015 07:44 AM

We like to install the Powerslot slotted rotors and Hawk HPS Pads for spirited street driving on a budget.

Minnie.the.Moocher 03-13-2015 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by NC TRACKRAT (Post 4056018)
Sensors are for the clue-less.

Not really, some people don't have the time, knowledge or inclination to do this. And when someone else buys a car who doesn't know about this stuff they benefit by having all systems go. It is a freakin $20 part.

ECSTuning 03-13-2015 08:41 AM

We have some options here: We have the ECS Geomet Coated Slotted Rotors.

Looks for the JCW Brakes " For John Cooper Works kit " ( Since you say have the red JCW front caliper w/ the JCW Logo ). Another way to check is the front rotor size 11.57" (294x22 mm) . :) The Rears are the same size as the S. Front of course are larger then the S.

Also for 2006 , there was a part split in 7/2006, so keep and eye out for that. Use your production date and you should be fine.

Full brake service kits here with pads , sensors, rotor screw. Everything to complete the job. :) Our Performance kits come with the Hawk HPS pads. Our Regualr kits come with Zimmerman rotors and Akebono pads .

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/266426_x600.jpg



http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2006-Cooper-R53-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_W11B16A/Braking/Service_Kits/


http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/566430_x600.jpg


Thanks

NC TRACKRAT 03-13-2015 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher (Post 4056071)
Not really, some people don't have the time, knowledge or inclination to do this. And when someone else buys a car who doesn't know about this stuff they benefit by having all systems go. It is a freakin $20 part.

Not meaning to flame anyone but folks are here on NAM to learn about what makes their cars tick. Even with the wheels on, using an inspection mirror and a flashlight, you can check all four calipers for brake wear in less than 5 minutes. It can also be done when rotating tires every 5,000 miles. People shouldn't entirely depend on warning lights. In the case of brake pad wear sensors, they're just on diagonally opposite wheels and the others are not, so even with the sensors, they're not fool-proof.

minintrigue 03-13-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Helix13mini (Post 4056051)
We like to install the Powerslot slotted rotors and Hawk HPS Pads for spirited street driving on a budget.

I love the hawk pads so much when I had them on my r53 that I took off the stockers from my r52 with only 10k miles on them. That was last yeAr, and yes, it was that big of a difference

choosy 03-14-2015 05:42 AM

There is no way to select JCW on te Helix website. This is the problem I run into every time

bavmotors 03-14-2015 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by choosy (Post 4056415)
There is no way to select JCW on te Helix website. This is the problem I run into every time

just select r56s

choosy 03-14-2015 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by bavmotors (Post 4056418)
just select r56s

So the r56s is the same as a r53s JCW?

choosy 03-14-2015 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4056082)
We have some options here: We have the ECS Geomet Coated Slotted Rotors. Looks for the JCW Brakes " For John Cooper Works kit " ( Since you say have the red JCW front caliper w/ the JCW Logo ). Another way to check is the front rotor size 11.57" (294x22 mm) . :) The Rears are the same size as the S. Front of course are larger then the S. Also for 2006 , there was a part split in 7/2006, so keep and eye out for that. Use your production date and you should be fine. Full brake service kits here with pads , sensors, rotor screw. Everything to complete the job. :) Our Performance kits come with the Hawk HPS pads. Our Regualr kits come with Zimmerman rotors and Akebono pads . http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2006-Cooper-R53-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_W11B16A/Braking/Service_Kits/ Thanks

Ty

bavmotors 03-14-2015 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by choosy (Post 4056421)
So the r56s is the same as a r53s JCW?

yes.

choosy 03-14-2015 07:12 AM

Can someone list all the tools required for this a full break and rotor job?

bavmotors 03-14-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by choosy (Post 4056430)
Can someone list all the tools required for this a full break and rotor job?

Search for the thread poor man's JCW kit he listed the how to

Helix13mini 03-14-2015 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by choosy (Post 4056415)
There is no way to select JCW on te Helix website. This is the problem I run into every time

We'll fix it. :thumbsup:

choosy 03-14-2015 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Helix13mini (Post 4056586)
We'll fix it. :thumbsup:

:) :) thank you

amit 03-29-2015 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4056082)
The Rears are the same size as the S. Front of course are larger then the S.

I changed my '05 r53 (non-jcw) front rotors to drilled and slotted. I just bought a used JCW front brake (calipers, pads, lines, rotors) - not installed currently.
So are you saying i can use my front rotors(which i have one currently) on my rear?
I was told the stock r53 front rotors are different from the rear so they wouldn't work.

*confused*

ECSTuning 03-30-2015 05:17 AM

No the rear JCW / S / Cooper only are the same size shared rear rotor. Cant take the front and and move them to the rear.

CARdiac 05-13-2015 05:27 AM

Does anyone have the part numbers for the Hawk and or Greenstuff brake pads for the JCW? Also, the part numbers for non-slotted or drilled rotors?

ECSTuning 05-13-2015 05:40 AM

They are linked above. For pre 7/2006 Front JCW rotors 34116768933
For pre 7/2006 Rear are the same as Cooper /S 34211503070

For Pads JCW fronts :
DP21789 Green EBC
HB560F.677 HPS
HB560N.677 HP +
HB560Z.677 Perf. Ceramic

For The Pads Rear the JCW are the same as the Cooper / S unless you want the factory pads then they have a different part # due to a different compound.
Rear Pads:
DP21701 EBC Green

HB445F.610 HPS
HB445N.610 HP +
HB445Z.610 Perf. Ceramic

CARdiac 05-13-2015 05:53 AM

ECS, thanks-I have given you a lot of my money ;-) I just need to buy locally in the interest of time.


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