Interior :: Dual Gauge Bracket for $4.88 (+ gauge install)
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Greetings all.
This is my third DIY project for my lovely 02 MCS, Meg Ryan. I couldn't bring myself to pay the price for Alta or similar mounts and cups, so I decided to make one myself for a fraction of the cost. I was originally planning on mounting the two gauges hanging underneath the console switches, but soon realized boosting 15lbs and looking down isn't the safest solution. Instead, I removed the bases of the two 52mm cups and mounted them to my custom bracket. Here is a rundown of the cost for this project: Bracket $4.88 - 1" x 36", 1/8" thick steel bar from the hardware store FREE - Gray primer & black paint (laying around the house) Misc. FREE - 52mm Glowshift Boost and Oil Pressure gauges (my sister had bought them years ago for her car and never installed them) FREE - extra wires, plug ends, airline hose, etc. (had them all laying around) $2.97 - T-Fitting and 1ft vacuum hose $6.99 x 2 - 52mm Glowshift Mounting Cups $12.99 - Glowshift Oil Pressure Sender (original one was lost) Only part missing is the fittings for the sender, which shouldn't be more than $5 from the hardware store EDIT: Turns out the fittings were $11.12 including tax. Still beats $50! Bought a 3/8 T, 3/8 x 1.5" thread, and 3/8 to 1/8 adapter: Attachment 197401 Total Cost = $31.85 plus fittings ($11.12) = $42.97 1. Start off by making a template with cardboard to get a rough length and shape: Attachment 197402 2. Take the steel bar stock, grab both ends, and bend it over the steering column plastic in front of the tachometer to get a nice curve (no pictures of this process, sorry) Attachment 197403 3. Cut the bar to length with a hacksaw, put the ends in a vice, and bend ends up to the desired shape. A hammer helps with this process: Attachment 197404 4. Use a metal file to round the edges: Attachment 197405 5. Drill two 1/8" holes in the bracket ends. Here is how the cups are mounted (using an 1/8" washer on each side of the bracket fits perfectly): Attachment 197406 6. Sand down the bracket, in one direction, with low grit sand paper (I used 120 grit and had no issues at all) Attachment 197407 7. Prime two coats on each side: Attachment 197408 8. Paint two or three coats, wait until its hand dry, and bake in oven on 150 for 2-3 hours: Attachment 197409 9. Final product!: Attachment 197410 10. Mockup. Here you can see the nylon wire sleeves that I salvaged from an old computer power supply. Makes for a very professional install: Attachment 197411 11. Here you can see the power source for the gauges. I plugged one add-a-circuit into a constant 12v, and another into a switched 12v. I then spliced three connectors off each for future projects: Attachment 197412 12. In order to snake the airline tubing and oil pressure wire through the firewall grommet, I extended a clothing hanger, sharpened the end, and poked it through the engine bay side of the grommet until it popped out in the driverside footwell. I then looped back the tip, crushed the tube and wire end in it, and pulled it back through the grommet. It took a little force, but worked well: Attachment 197413 Attachment 197414 Attachment 197415 13. Here you can see the routing of the wires and the extra connectors. During this time I cleaned up my footwell LED strip wiring and mounted a switch on top of the stock footwell light housing. I also took the opportunity to spray down the steering column bushing with white lithium grease. No more clicking! Each gauge had a ground, constant 12v and switched 12v. I took both wires from each gauge, put them into one connector, and attached them to their corresponding connectors coming from the add-a-circuits. As it sits right now, I have 1 constant 12v plug used by the gauges, and 2 switched 12v plugs used by the gauges and led strips: Attachment 197416 14. Here they are mounted up. In order to mount it on the plastic, I removed the two torx screws holding on the tachometer. I then put double sided tape on the bottom of my bracket, and stuck to the plastic directly underneath the tach. Once the tach is remounted, the pressure from it plus the tape hold the bracket firmly in place: Attachment 197417 Attachment 197418 15. Illuminated pictures! Attachment 197419 Attachment 197420 Only thing left for me to do the engine bay work. Pull the intercooler and tap the vac line. Unscrew the stock oil sensor, screw in fittings and attach both the stock sensor and Glowshift sender. Should be completing that in the next few days. Thanks for reading! :thumbsup: |
WOW! That came out exceptionally well.
Normally, DIY projects that start out at Home Depot don't look very good, but you just proved that wrong. |
Great job PLASTICNIVES, looks super, and much more practical than just having idiot lights. When can I expect you to put this rig in my lil guy?
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wow. impressive. im sure also a lot more stable than these flimsy Alta ones (maybe a 2nd gen thing)
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Thanks all.
It really is a solid piece, but I wouldn't consider marketing it unless I could find a way to get it pressed rather than hand make it. |
I guess that's your way of saying your not doing my lil guy
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super clean setup! Hey, does anyone know where i can get some good gauges. I know they are everywhere, but i have the chrome interior, and i was wondering where i could find 4 to branch off my tach. does anybody know where i might be able to find any? Thanks:thumbsup:
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Do the gauges dim with the interior lights? If so, where did you tap into that power?
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Originally Posted by anitan1
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Do the gauges dim with the interior lights? If so, where did you tap into that power?
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Nice mod Plasticknives. I found this thread on the "ULTIMATE R53 Newbie, DIY, and Performance Guide" thread.
I've done several mods and this one looks like something I'd like to try. Any chance you could provide the length dimension you cut the metal bar to? Thanks. |
I've since sold the bracket. Sorry.
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That's a good, clean, inexpensive mod! :thumbsup:
The shop guy that installed my My GReddy gauges in my old '02 MCS back in '06 tapped into a grey/red wire for the illumination pickup. When I removed them, I notated all leads he used so I could install the gauges in my '06 MCS as easy as possible. I ended up tapping three grey/red leads before finding the right one. Trying to do it easier, the first was in the wiring harness behind the stereo; no good. I then had to unwrap and tap into the lead in the main harness near the fuse box (like the shop guy did). 3rd time was the charm. The grey/red lead can be found/referenced by looking in the diagrams at the back of the Bentley manual. |
Dimming your add on gauges
Originally Posted by anitan1
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Do the gauges dim with the interior lights? If so, where did you tap into that power?
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WOW! This looks hella legit. I was just wondering why you have to put it in the oven for 2-3 hours.
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Originally Posted by whOOPS01
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WOW! This looks hella legit. I was just wondering why you have to put it in the oven for 2-3 hours.
Rapid drying/curing. I have another bracket project in the works that you all might be interested in. Stay tuned... |
Is it just for faster drying or does the paint stay on better and look better? Im planning on painting some parts of my cars exterior and Im wondering what paint should I use and how should I do it. Im going to paint the handle on the trunk black. Also, the bonnet scoop and the back badges! Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by whOOPS01
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Is it just for faster drying or does the paint stay on better and look better? Im planning on painting some parts of my cars exterior and Im wondering what paint should I use and how should I do it. Im going to paint the handle on the trunk black. Also, the bonnet scoop and the back badges! Suggestions?
Thanks I wouldn't put any plastic pieces in the oven for that long though, even with the low heat. Max I would leave plastic in the oven is 20-25 minutes, like when you crack open a headlight. |
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WoW i never did think i would be using this piece of steel. But after seeing your thread i had to do what you did......this piece of steel has been under my bed for over two years now. i knew if i kept it long enough it would come in handy.
time to follow your steps & make a gauge mount myself. pics with nav.....turned out pretty good. |
here is my variation of plasticknives' DIY bracket using the Autometer gauge cups with my Marshall Instrument gauges. I still have to hook up the oil pressure sender and signal wire in the engine bay.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2ai3n81.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/30m8fpz.jpg |
Originally Posted by tonester
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here is my variation of plasticknives' DIY bracket using the Autometer gauge cups with my Marshall Instrument gauges. I still have to hook up the oil pressure sender and signal wire in the engine bay.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2ai3n81.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/30m8fpz.jpg C ya, Dutch |
Looks terrific tonester! What were the original dimensions of the metal bar you used?
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the mounting bolts does not rub against the steering column. I made sure to not over bend the bracket bar too much to accomodate for this. The dimension of the bar is the one specified by plasticknives in the original post. As for the length, I didn't write down the specific length. I used a cardboard template and cut/trim the piece to my own preference.
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Good job, tonester! :thumbsup:
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OP/boost install
Great job, guys! Very inspirational - I've been wanting to do this ever since I bought my MCS and now I think it's doable.
One question - any suggestions on which gauges would best match the OEM tach as far as the chrome rim, white face, markings, etc? I know I should be more worried about how they work/quality/etc but I want it to look good too, y'know? :thumbsup: TIA! |
Back when I did my gauges, the only OEM-like ones with silver faces were the GReddy warning series. You can click on my Garage link to the right to see pictures. The air/fuel gauge is not worth it, as it's a narrow-band (you want a wideband gauge, and I don't know of a silver analog version on the market). GReddy does not make these gauges anymore, so you have to hunt around. If you decide to use them, I now recommend boost and EGT (exhaust gas temperature). You can use the EGT to help gauge your air/fuel mixture if you go to a dyno and tune your MINI.
The gauge company to go to now is Marshall Instruments. I have not seen an air/fuel or EGT gauge from them. If you pick Marshall, get boost and oil pressure or water temp. |
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