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wtwien 10-17-2014 08:35 AM

Comfort Access and Locking the Door
 
I have Comfort Access and when I try to lock the door by pressing the small black button on the door handle, it will not lock on the first time. If I wait a few second after exiting the car it will lock. How can I change this so that it locks right away. Do I need to change a setting or something?

RichSz 10-17-2014 08:47 AM

I have this problem as well but think I figured it out. The first press unlocks the passenger door and the second press locks both. If my wife is in the car and gets out, thus unlocking the passenger door, then I can lock with a single press.

I'm not sure if it's a setting thing but it's irritating. I've been using the remote to lock, which defeats the purpose of having Comfort Access.

cansa 10-17-2014 09:09 AM

I turned off "lock after start driving", so when I press unlock (either on remote or comfort access) then it stays unlocked, so one press of the comfort access when I leave the car locks it up.

becky1711 10-17-2014 10:24 AM

Add me to list. I was also befuddled and irritated by how many presses to lock. Thought I wasn't pushing hard enough or in the right spot or whatever. Will turn off the lock when driving.

papawhiskey 10-17-2014 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by cansa (Post 4001858)
I turned off "lock after start driving", so when I press unlock (either on remote or comfort access) then it stays unlocked, so one press of the comfort access when I leave the car locks it up.

Where do you find that lock setting? I found where to unlock both doors with the handle button press, but have not seen the one you refer to.

TIA

RichSz 10-17-2014 10:30 AM

It's good to see there is a solution but I feel the cure is worse than the illness. I like that the doors lock when I drive. Not that I live in or frequent bad neighborhoods but it's a bit of piece of mind to hear the lock click when I take off. I'll stick with my lame solution for now.

This has me thinking, if I have Comfort Access and am sitting in a locked car with the key in my pocket, can one of the door buttons be pressed and unlock the door? That would make locking them automatically completely pointless. I'll start calling the little buttons "carjack me" buttons if that's the case. I must investigate this!

cansa 10-17-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by papawhiskey (Post 4001898)
Where do you find that lock setting? I found where to unlock both doors with the handle button press, but have not seen the one you refer to.

TIA

I'm not at my car, so I'm looking at the manual (pg.42). Under "settings", then "doors/key", select "Lock after start driving".............only I unselected it!

MasterYoda 10-17-2014 11:44 AM

I assumed the delay was the car waiting to make sure the key wasn't in the vehicle anymore. It does annoy me greatly.

papawhiskey 10-17-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by RichSz (Post 4001899)
This has me thinking, if I have Comfort Access and am sitting in a locked car with the key in my pocket, can one of the door buttons be pressed and unlock the door?

I know for a certainty that with the fob inside one cannot unlock the door from the outside - even with the engine running. The wife always gets peeved at me because I would forget that the doors have locked automatically, and when I come to pick her up I forget to unlock it, leaving her out in the cold. She's now taken to having her fob with her all the time, thus allowing her to use the black button to let herself in.

Morty73 10-17-2014 11:53 AM

I also find the comfort access locking process confusing and annoying. The trick I have found is wen getting out of the car, use my thumb to unlock the doors with the button on the door as I am pulling the handle. Then, when I close the door and press the black button, it locks on the first press.

This still allows you to have the doors set to lock automatically when you drive off.

cansa 10-17-2014 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by papawhiskey (Post 4001931)
I know for a certainty that with the fob inside one cannot unlock the door from the outside - even with the engine running. The wife always gets peeved at me because I would forget that the doors have locked automatically, and when I come to pick her up I forget to unlock it, leaving her out in the cold. She's now taken to having her fob with her all the time, thus allowing her to use the black button to let herself in.

I laughed at that because my hubby does the exact same thing to me in his car, which is why I turned off the automatic locking on mine. If for any reason I'm going through a shady part of some town I'll hit the door lock on my own, but other than that I like all the doors unlocked.

darex 10-17-2014 02:51 PM

This quirk is actually inexcusably annoying, because no other brand of car has this silly issue. On all other cars, press once to lock; twice to unlock. THE END!

Crimguy 10-17-2014 02:57 PM

BMW - options to open one door or all doors with unlock. Otherwise you get in the habit of a double press when you have passengers.

I don't like the button personally. My old car would detect the key when you grabbed the handle and unlock the doors. Very slick.

CobraBob 10-18-2014 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by Morty73 (Post 4001935)
I also find the comfort access locking process confusing and annoying. The trick I have found is wen getting out of the car, use my thumb to unlock the doors with the button on the door as I am pulling the handle. Then, when I close the door and press the black button, it locks on the first press.

This still allows you to have the doors set to lock automatically when you drive off.

You're talking about the 'unlock button' inside the car, right? That is what I started doing and now that I'm in the habit of doing it, no more problem when I exit and then press the black button. It is admittedly not a great system. IMO you should be able to hold the button in for, say, for 3-4 seconds and have the doors lock. My concern with the present setup is that a person can press the black button and then wrongly assume the doors are locked. This is especially a concern if the windows are tinted and you cannot see the door lock stem.

Pennengr 10-18-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by cansa (Post 4001858)
I turned off "lock after start driving", so when I press unlock (either on remote or comfort access) then it stays unlocked, so one press of the comfort access when I leave the car locks it up.

Thanks for this pointer. I can live without autolock to get comfort access working the way it should (a compromise I know from the way it really should be).

Kinetic89 10-18-2014 06:50 AM

Same issue, only on the driver side though. I can unlock the door from the Passenger side and it locks the first time I push the button on that door handle.

The vehicle never locks on the first push of the button on the driver side.

veevsato 10-30-2015 01:56 PM

I was thinking it was part of the tilt sensor settling down to arm the alarm as the doors lock. Does anyone have the black button without the alarm system. Do they have the problem?

Pennengr 10-30-2015 06:22 PM

Black button, no alarm, and yes.

Miniblue2 11-01-2015 05:18 AM

No alarm, but I am set to lock all with button press and it does so immediately.

gwernerjr 11-01-2015 10:16 AM

Wow I thought I was crazy but I'm having the same problem. I like when the doors autolock as I drive so I wonder if a simple fix is to just press the unlock button on the inside of the car before I get out. Then if both the locks are unlocked upon leaving it will lock on the first press. You shouldn't have to do this but at least it gives you locking while driving still.

I was actually surprised that the minis used such a different comfort access system than bmw. It just seems super cheap that it is all through one rubber button rather than having a sensor on the inner part of the handles to unlock and a dimple on the top to lock like the bmws have.

MINIDean 11-02-2015 08:48 AM

This is a huge oversight on MINI's part. My last R56 had comfort access and if I got out of the car and the passenger door was already locked, pressing the black button on the driver outside handle always locked the door. Now, on my F56, if I get out and press the black button, the system unlocks the passenger door, then I have to wait a few seconds to then lock them all. LAME. Now I just hit the power inside unlock button when I get out instead of unlocking when I pull the inside door handle, and the black button will lock all doors, only because I unlocked all of them before getting out. I have never had a car with comfort access do this, so I'm disappointed. It's more like Annoying Access instead of Comfort Access. Older MINIs worked as designed before, but now they don't? Who's sleeping in the software department?


Come on MINI. Update the software so this isn't annoying.

Blues Trucker 11-02-2015 05:18 PM

Checked mine today. 1 push and doors lock.

BennyF 11-02-2015 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by MINIDean (Post 4140328)
This is a huge oversight on MINI's part. My last R56 had comfort access and if I got out of the car and the passenger door was already locked, pressing the black button on the driver outside handle always locked the door. Now, on my F56, if I get out and press the black button, the system unlocks the passenger door, then I have to wait a few seconds to then lock them all. LAME. Now I just hit the power inside unlock button when I get out instead of unlocking when I pull the inside door handle, and the black button will lock all doors, only because I unlocked all of them before getting out. I have never had a car with comfort access do this, so I'm disappointed. It's more like Annoying Access instead of Comfort Access. Older MINIs worked as designed before, but now they don't? Who's sleeping in the software department?


Come on MINI. Update the software so this isn't annoying.

:thumbsup:

Southern Marylander 11-03-2015 05:20 AM

If I unlock with the black button to get in, drive for a bit, then hop out by just opening the door, I will have to press the lock button twice to lock the car.

If I unlock with the black button to get in, drive for a bit, then unlock with the door button to get out, the black button will lock on the first press.


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