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Thumper460 07-27-2009 10:38 AM

Tune for power...
 
I was wondering what the AVERAGE gain was from those that have had a tune?? Dont even need to know what mods you are running, but that is cool..

Like.... I made 22.5 HP with tune... or I made 22.5 HP and 15 Tq with tune!! cool??

I am getting to the NEED and was wondering what the AVERAGE of all that post would be...

thanks

Just me......................................

Thumper

chase3332 07-27-2009 10:50 AM

I made 26.7HP and 14tq with an RMW tune.

Chase

Thumper460 07-27-2009 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by chase3332 (Post 2832187)
I made 26.7HP and 14tq with an RMW tune.

Chase

Perfect... and more??

Thanks Chase..

Thumper

kalbone 07-27-2009 12:05 PM

I made 108whp and 78tq with Mynes. :lol:

mdbsat 07-27-2009 12:19 PM

:popcorn:

Thumper460 07-27-2009 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by kalbone (Post 2832262)
I made 108whp and 78tq with Mynes. :lol:

Now that is impressive... JUST the tune did that.....yes??
Or was it some mods/ tune combo?? I would just like the tune only... and if that IS...... Outasite!!

Thumper

Thumper460 07-27-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by mdbsat (Post 2832279)
:popcorn:

Have you had a tune yet?? Or like me... waiting till the last minute??? LOL

Thumper

kazlot 07-27-2009 01:08 PM

Tune for power...
 
My results were:

13.8 hp and 9.8 tq on a Dynapack Chassis Dynamometer

Not big numbers, the car is stock, but major driveability improvements!

Hope this helps...

Thumper460 07-27-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by kazlot (Post 2832321)
My results were:

13.8 hp and 9.8 tq on a Dynapack Chassis Dynamometer

Not big numbers, the car is stock, but major driveability improvements!

Hope this helps...


Still one fun ride yes?? amazing what 14 HP/ 10 tq will do!!
Thanks... any more??

Thumper

k-huevo 07-27-2009 01:43 PM

Chase, with larger injectors and a tune; many including myself would be pleased with his baseline alone.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...re_243_188.jpg

DrPhilGandini 07-27-2009 01:44 PM

I got +21hp and +10ftlbs with 550cc injectors and a Mynes tune.
And not all of that was above 7000rpm!

kalbone 07-27-2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Thumper460 (Post 2832282)
Now that is impressive... JUST the tune did that.....yes??
Or was it some mods/ tune combo?? I would just like the tune only... and if that IS...... Outasite!!

Thumper


from supercharger(195whp) to turbo(303whp)... :lol:

astrochex 07-27-2009 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by k-huevo (Post 2832345)
Chase, with larger injectors and a tune; many including myself would be pleased with his baseline alone.

[ot] When will people learn to spell ENDYN correctly? :roll: [/ot]

Thumper460 07-27-2009 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini (Post 2832346)
I got +21hp and +10ftlbs with 550cc injectors and a Mynes tune.
And not all of that was above 7000rpm!

good numbers... the 550's helped a bit.. yes!!

k-huevo ... 25 hp/ 18 tq.. rocks!!



When will people learn to spell ENDYN correctly? :roll: [/ot]Today 05:00 PM

DoNo... when do you suspect?? LOL

More ... more ... more...

Thanks guys..

Thumper

ED955S 07-27-2009 04:35 PM

Baseline (Shark93 with ignition timing pulled back to stock, 15% pulley & new belt, 1-ball exhaust, Ultrik CAI, new JCW plugs, new 380 cc Siemens injectors, MSD Wires, & 93 Octane).

After RMW tune: +9 hub Hp & 8 hub Tq using Dynapak.

caminifan 07-27-2009 04:42 PM

Before Jan's tune - 178.5 whp & 172.9 wft/lbs, which was after 17% s/c pulley, RMW cam & RMW header. After Jan's tune - 198.8 whp & 189 wft/lbs. Airbox and Cat-back is what came from the factory (stock R53, non-JCW).

Thumper460 07-27-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by caminifan (Post 2832542)
Before Jan's tune - 178.5 whp & 172.9 wft/lbs, which was after 17% s/c pulley, RMW cam & RMW header. After Jan's tune - 198.8 whp & 189 wft/lbs. Airbox and Cat-back is what came from the factory (stock R53, non-JCW).


20/ 17 after tune... great..

custard 07-27-2009 07:18 PM

2003 MCS, CAI, catback, 380's, 15% pulley gained 15 HP and 6 1/2 ftlbs torque with an RMW tune.

After RMW BVH, cam, 440's, Miltek Catback ended up at 234 wHP, 177 wtq. I don't recall exactly the delta from parts and no tune to parts + tune, but i seem to recall it was in the 25 HP range. Overall i'm up 71HP and 21 tq.

Tune is well worth while, whoever you get it from. The raw numbers don't tell the whole story. For me, the improvement was in drivabilty and usable power/tq. Of course, YMMV :)

MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS 07-27-2009 07:54 PM

I hope people are looking at this and realizing the difference in mods these people have is reflecting the difference in gain. People always ask what my average gain on a tune is and there isn't an easy answer as every car I tune has different mods and therefor shows different gains.

DrPhilGandini 07-27-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS (Post 2832759)
I hope people are looking at this and realizing the difference in mods these people have is reflecting the difference in gain. People always ask what my average gain on a tune is and there isn't an easy answer as every car I tune has different mods and therefor shows different gains.

Never a truer word spoken...
From the guru, too!!:)

Thumper460 07-27-2009 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Thumper460 (Post 2832178)
I was wondering what the AVERAGE gain was from those that have had a tune?? Dont even need to know what mods you are running, but that is cool..

Like.... I made 22.5 HP with tune... or I made 22.5 HP and 15 Tq with tune!! cool??

I am getting to the NEED and was wondering what the AVERAGE of all that post would be...

thanks

Just me......................................

Thumper

SOOoooo... back on point??

Custard... great point on drivability!! 25 HP gain on tune... cool??

Thumper

custard 07-27-2009 11:43 PM

yep, the tune really pulls mods together. I do agree though that trying to figure out the average of everyone's tunes isn't really going to be that illuminating. As you can tell, the gains from a tune are often proportional to the mods. Not to mention the fact that there seems to be a wide variance between our cars. Mine for example has always been pretty low on the torque side.
More illuminating is the area under the curve. You can see from my dyno graph how the raw numbers don't really tell you this.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...0/RMW-Tune.jpg

blue al 07-28-2009 12:22 AM

from a low base line its easy to look at "big gains"
i would like to see big gains from a strong start point,
thats the real deal

caminifan 07-28-2009 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper460 (Post 2832628)
20/ 17 after tune... great..

That is what I thought as well. To get 20 hp & 17 ft/lbs from a tune alone is pretty good - especially considering the torque curve is ironing board flat.

I am really happy with the results. At this point, I have essentially an E46 330i output in a car that is about 700 lbs lighter; nothing like power to weight ratio....

One other mod that was made to the car before Jan's tune was the addition of 380 cc injectors.

EDIT: The 20/17 numbers were probably due to my car being BRG.... We all know that BRG cars are the stronger ones....

Thumper460 07-28-2009 04:24 AM

BRG!!
 
[quote=caminifan;2832905]That is what I thought as well. To get 20 hp & 17 ft/lbs from a tune alone is pretty good - especially considering the torque curve is ironing board flat.

I am really happy with the results. At this point, I have essentially an E46 330i output in a car that is about 700 lbs lighter; nothing like power to weight ratio....

One other mod that was made to the car before Jan's tune was the addition of 380 cc injectors.

EDIT: The 20/17 numbers were probably due to my car being BRG.... We all know that BRG cars are the stronger ones....[/quote]

Yep... something magical about the BRG MCS..yes??

Still need more data.. But looks like so far.. 15-25 HP on a tune!! that rocks.. and the smoothness and strong pull is a plus!!

Any More?? Keep'em coming.

Thumper


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