Seattle RMW Tune Results!
Here is a compilation of tune results from those who have been so kind as to post them. It should go without saying, but it won't. These are not my results (although mine WILL be posted when I get home on Saturday) and I am merely gathering the information into an easier-to-read format. Please feel free to add your tune results as you get them! Lets try to keep the thread as on-topic as possible and we can still chit-chat in the other RMW thread ;)
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NAM User: fingershooter
My configuration: 2006 MCS Dinan CAI Milltek exhaust 15% pulley JCW 380cc injectors Initial pull: 194.2 hp @ 6910 178.2 torque @ 3752 Final pull 205.8 hp @ 7300 ( I did have one pull at 209, however Jan didn't like the A/F) 182.4 torque @ 3761 https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...9&d=1213925645 |
NAM User: searocko
Specs: 2005 MCS RMW Street Header RMW Cam 15% pulley 380cc Bosch injectors NGK Iridium BKR7EIX-11 stock cat-back stock airbox and filter https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...0/JanTune1.jpg |
NAM User: ear2ear
2005 MCSc Dinan CAI Miltek Catback Exhaust 17% pulley 380 injectors GP intercooler NGK BKR7EQUP Initial pull HP 190.1 @ 6302 Final pull HP 200.8 @ 7200 Initial pull TQ 182.3 @ 3653 Final pull TQ 185.0 @ 3786 (dyno chart not posted) |
NAM User: pure13
Mods: Mini-Madness Stage 3 system, M7 CAI Before: 188.8 whp (with Evotech "tune") After: 203.7 whp (RMW) |
Originally Posted by billzcat1
(Post 2314330)
NAM User: fingershooter
My configuration: 2006 MCS Dinan CAI Milltek exhaust 15% pulley JCW 380cc injectors Initial pull: 194.2 hp @ 6910 178.2 torque @ 3752 Final pull 205.8 hp @ 7300 ( I did have one pull at 209, however Jan didn't like the A/F) 182.4 torque @ 3761 |
Keep the numbers coming in :thumbsup:
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not as impressive as the others....
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.. but nice gains from a "weak" example. Guess my car was Friday afternoon build :razz:
Great gains under the curve, certainly drives much, much better. 2003 MCS Dinan CAI Miltek Catback 15% pulley 380 injectors Initial pull HP 163.7 @ 6900 Final pull HP 178.2 @ 6635 Initial pull TQ 156.2 @ 3936 Final pull TQ 162.7 @ 3853 |
NAM User: custard's dyno plot full-sized. Great improvement! Worth every penny/pence/pfennig for sure.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...2&d=1213992062 |
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Originally Posted by pure13
FYI, Jan said '05, '06 have much tighter engine tolerance from factory compare to pre '05 cars. With the same mods '05, '06 could make more than 20~30hp compare to pre '05 cars. And the results I saw today while I was there is very much true to that effect. So don't be disappointed when your pre '05 car don't pull big number like Searocko and Fingershooter
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Question...did fingershooter have ANY previous tune or was he simply running the pulley/intake/exhaust/injectors with no tune to make the 194 pre-RMW figure? Also, does Jan consider it "safe" to do this for a prolonged period of time? I ask because I plan to do these upgrades but it will be a while before I can get to Jan for a tune based on where I live. Hopefully this isn't too off topic, but I'm sure others will have similar questions.
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I don't know about fingershooter's pre-tune ECU.
And I'm not the Wizard of tuning but can report on my observations. *Most* of the modded/untuned Mini AFR charts i've seen go pretty rich in the center and lean out as they run out of injector way up top. As long as you aren't raping it all the way to redline the worst you suffer is a sooty tailpipe (you might want to see a doctor about that!) and some reduced power output. And honestly, I'm not too worried about knock up top because the most susceptible region to knock in any motor is the torque peak, where coincidentally you are also running the richest with stock fuel mapping. |
Originally Posted by AeroCooper
(Post 2314651)
Question...did fingershooter have ANY previous tune or was he simply running the pulley/intake/exhaust/injectors with no tune to make the 194 pre-RMW figure? Also, does Jan consider it "safe" to do this for a prolonged period of time? I ask because I plan to do these upgrades but it will be a while before I can get to Jan for a tune based on where I live. Hopefully this isn't too off topic, but I'm sure others will have similar questions.
I was very surprised by the initial numbers that my car ran. Shane |
Originally Posted by custard
(Post 2314558)
.. but nice gains from a "weak" example. Guess my car was Friday afternoon build :razz:
Great gains under the curve, certainly drives much, much better. 2003 MCS Dinan CAI Miltek Catback 15% pulley 380 injectors Initial pull HP 163.7 @ 6900 Final pull HP 178.2 @ 6635 Initial pull TQ 156.2 @ 3936 Final pull TQ 162.7 @ 3853 |
Originally Posted by billzcat1
(Post 2314600)
NAM User: custard's dyno plot full-sized. Great improvement! Worth every penny/pence/pfennig for sure.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...2&d=1213992062 |
Originally Posted by fingershooter
(Post 2314695)
No, my MINI only had the mods that I noted. Jan said my just happened to be one of those "strong" ones. I guess I am just lucky. :thumbsup:
I was very surprised by the initial numbers that my car ran. Shane |
Originally Posted by COOUUPER S
(Post 2314744)
How many miles ?
I'm not too hung up on the numbers to be honest - the gains, while not huge, were pretty nice. Much better area under the curve, and Jan was suprised that i still have the stock header, as the torque curve is pretty broad. Overall i'm really pleased with the change in the car - it pulls better, is much smoother, and now i at least know that it's running as well as it can be. My only disappointment was Jan. After all the posts about him on NAM I either expected the son of Satan with horn's and all, or a eerie angelic glow and the sound of harps. All I got was a really nice bloke, sharp as a tack, and a fine engineer. :wink: |
Originally Posted by AeroCooper
(Post 2314749)
Thanks for the info and congratulations :thumbsup:
Hope this helps. |
Custard: Did you change the plugs, belt, and check for boost leak? Check your compression too.
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Originally Posted by ED955S
(Post 2314854)
Custard: Did you change the plugs, belt, and check for boost leak? Check your compression too.
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
(Post 2314475)
Hmm. So I assume the initial pull is 194WHP? So if it is that would calculate to roughly 213 BHP correct? So if a stock 2006 MCS has 168 BHP then his initial mods: CAI, pulley, and a cat-back gained him 45 BHP? Or am I reading this wrong?
I personally don't hold a lot of confidence in the specific numbers (high or low), but instead the deviation between the before and after. While my peak to peak torque only increased 4, my torque increased across the whole dynamic range. So count me another happy camper. :nod: Shane |
Originally Posted by fingershooter
(Post 2314934)
Yes, the 194 was my initial pull and I was completely surprised. Even Jan seemed a little surprised at the number and ran it again, and it pulled a 193.? (don't remember exactly). I certainly have no explaination for these numbers. :confused: Having said this, I am very satisfied with how my numbers turned out and how the car drives now.
I personally don't hold a lot of confidence in the specific numbers (high or low), but instead the deviation between the before and after. While my peak to peak torque only increased 4, my torque increased across the whole dynamic range. So count me another happy camper. :nod: Shane |
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Originally Posted by custard
(Post 2314803)
About 64k. Talking to Jan, it seems like there is a lot of variation between cars, with the later models usually being stronger due to better tolerances.
I'm not too hung up on the numbers to be honest - the gains, while not huge, were pretty nice. Much better area under the curve, and Jan was suprised that i still have the stock header, as the torque curve is pretty broad. Overall i'm really pleased with the change in the car - it pulls better, is much smoother, and now i at least know that it's running as well as it can be. My only disappointment was Jan. After all the posts about him on NAM I either expected the son of Satan with horn's and all, or a eerie angelic glow and the sound of harps. All I got was a really nice bloke, sharp as a tack, and a fine engineer. :wink: |
Had a fine time at Speed Factory today. Jan is a nice guy who is very knowledgable and will answer all your questions. I was happy with results and it only took about 45 minutes to finish. My MINI is an 05 MCS Cabrio with a 17% pulley, obx header, 380cc injectors, Pilo Racing CAI and NGK Iridium (7) plugs. Pulled 200 even but the torque improved across the board and all the rough spots are gone.
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