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Archanum 06-17-2008 08:37 AM

Plugs/Plugs+Wires/Plugs+Wires+Coils?
 
Hi All,

Just started looking into the topic of spark plugs for my ride and was hoping for some input. I did some searchs and a lot of what I found was very specific and a little over my head. So....a dumbed down view of things would be appreciated. Keep in mind this is a daily driver, with some spirited driving.

My car is a 2005 S with ~39K miles.

And on to the questions:

1. At what point in the life of a MINI should plugs be considered for replacement?

2. What benefit is there from putting on higher end wires? Any suggestions on brand?

3. What benefit from putting on higher end coil packs? Any suggestions on brand?

4. Any tricks to doing the replacement?

5. Any other words of wisdom?


Thanks! :thumbsup:
Brian

Partsman 06-17-2008 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Archanum (Post 2305950)

And on to the questions:

1. At what point in the life of a MINI should plugs be considered for replacement?

2. What benefit is there from putting on higher end wires? Any suggestions on brand?

3. What benefit from putting on higher end coil packs? Any suggestions on brand?

4. Any tricks to doing the replacement?

5. Any other words of wisdom?


Thanks! :thumbsup:
Brian

1) I do mine every 20-25k, your mileage may vary.
2) None really, the stock ones work fine. On the set I tested, the resistance was very consistent per length of wire.
3) None really, the stock one works fine.
4) It's pretty straight forward, just do them one at a time.
5) Just take your time, and you'll be fine.

Artaniz 06-17-2008 10:12 AM


And on to the questions:
1. At what point in the life of a MINI should plugs be considered for replacement?
2. What benefit is there from putting on higher end wires? Any suggestions on brand?
3. What benefit from putting on higher end coil packs? Any suggestions on brand?
4. Any tricks to doing the replacement?
5. Any other words of wisdom?

Thanks! :thumbsup:
Brian
I do not own a MCS, I have a 05 MC.
I did put some nology hot wires on as well as some Iridium Spark Plugs.

I did feel a slight difference. Nothing to be excited about, but the main difference was better gas millage. about 1-2mpg's more.

All in all i think it was worth it, i believe only spark plugs will do. but if you are looking for performance, don't expect much.

PS. at $4.50 for premium gas. the extra 1-2mpg helps :)


Good luck,

Artaniz

AliceCooperWA 06-17-2008 12:03 PM

I noticed a big difference going with iridium plugs and some 8mm 100ohm wires. But I'm sure that 99% of the noticeable difference was because my plugs had 50k on them and my wires had about 90k on them. I think they would only perform better than stock if you are pumping so much more air and fuel that the stock ones can't handle it. Since there are many people with 250+ hp on stock wires...it's not necessary. You may want lower temp plugs if you're worried about detonation. Don't even bother with the coil. It's as much a waste of money as $200 plugs.

Nitrominis 06-17-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Archanum (Post 2305950)
Hi All,





1. At what point in the life of a MINI should plugs be considered for replacement?

2. What benefit is there from putting on higher end wires? Any suggestions on brand?

3. What benefit from putting on higher end coil packs? Any suggestions on brand?

4. Any tricks to doing the replacement?

5. Any other words of wisdom?


Thanks! :thumbsup:
Brian

1) I do mine every time I do a track day or about every 10K. A bit excessive but plugs are cheap.
2) The stock (OEM) ones work fine. However even though the no load resistance is consistent per length of wire under load (higher voltage) the resistance gets increased. So a set of wire like MSD or Jacobs wires as an example that are designed to handle the higher voltage may be a better choice for spirited driving.
3) Here again the stock one is more then adequate for normal use but fall short on rise time under the load demand of spirited driving. The only one I would recommend is stay stock or MSD.
4) It's pretty straight forward, just do them one at a time.
5) Just take your time, and you'll be fine.

Archanum 06-17-2008 01:29 PM

Thanks for all the feedback!

I did forget one question. Which brand of plugs to people recommend? (Cheap price, but good level of quality)

Partsman 06-17-2008 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Nitrominis (Post 2306590)
1) I do mine every time I do a track day or about every 10K. A bit excessive but plugs are cheap.
2) The stock (OEM) ones work fine. However even though the no load resistance is consistent per length of wire under load (higher voltage) the resistance gets increased. So a set of wire like MSD or Jacobs wires as an example that are designed to handle the higher voltage may be a better choice for spirited driving.
3) Here again the stock one is more then adequate for normal use but fall short on rise time under the load demand of spirited driving. The only one I would recommend is stay stock or MSD.
4) It's pretty straight forward, just do them one at a time.
5) Just take your time, and you'll be fine.

This post looks very familiar.:sly: :lol: I concur about the wires, both manufacturers listed above make excellent wire sets.


Originally Posted by Archanum (Post 2306784)
Thanks for all the feedback!

I did forget one question. Which brand of plugs to people recommend? (Cheap price, but good level of quality)

I would recommend the stock plugs. I've never seen an issue with the stock plugs blowing out of the head. You can also get them one step colder(JCW) is you decide to do a pulley upgrade.


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